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will any zen2 work in x470 boards?
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They're supposed to (x370, etc, too), but I guess we wont really know until they're close to release.will any zen2 work in x470 boards?
will any zen2 work in x470 boards?
will any zen2 work in x470 boards?
How you know so much? lol Are you employed with RTG? Or just have close friends that work with themNot sure.
The motherboard used is not a retail product.
It is a custom motherboard with an AMD logo.
The Zen team is being awfully secretive, that's for sure.
"anonymous source close to people who know how RTG thinks"How you know so much? lol Are you employed with RTG? Or just have close friends that work with them
_mockingbird is Lisa Su!"anonymous source close to people who know how RTG thinks"
No, zen from r3 to epyc is 4 core ccx. APUs have a single CCX + the integrated graphics, CPUs have two CCXs (8 cores total) per die, with some disabled in certain models, threadripper and epyc have 2 and 4 active dies respectively (16 and 32 cores). TR2 has two additional active dies in certain models (for 4 total).
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AMD could get near Intel in IPC and clockspeed with this run
Still trying to figure out the relation between 'RTG' and 'Zen2'.
I would say probably not, but I guess it's not out of the realm of possibility.You have to wonder if AMD sent a sample to NVIDIA.
I would say probably not, but I guess it's not out of the realm of possibility.
Yeah, but it would seem a bit early to send them a sample yet. AMD also has their APUs to worry about, so it makes sense to send a sample over to RTG early.NVIDIA doesn't make x86 processors, so it's not a competitor.
The majority of people buying AMD processors are also buying NVIDIA video cards.
It would be in AMD's best interest to make sure its processors work well with NVIDIA's drivers.
We're assuming 10nm does something to increase performance. The last 2 process shrinks brought harder clock gains, the only benefits were 1; cheaper, 2; more space on wafers for shit like moar cores etc, and 3; less power. Clock speeds have been a challenge.They might approach Skylake, but that catch-up only lasts until Intel sorts volume 10nm.
We're assuming 10nm does something to increase performance.
They do (cannon lake), and fwiu it's even shipping in low volume, they just don't have any desktop chips out yet and are having trouble with yields.I'm actually not, I'm assuming that Intel has a new arch ready that's been waiting for 10nm.
They do (cannon lake)
They do (cannon lake), and fwiu it's even shipping in low volume, they just don't have any desktop chips out yet and are having trouble with yields.
Thats putting it mildly. 10nm for the desktop is still a year out or longer for Intel and now their 14nm line is back logged and they are going to use TSMC for more production. To be honest this is the worse I have seen Intel perform in a long time. I think Zen 2 will likely outperform current Intel chips if they can get the frequency up just a bit.
Thats putting it mildly. 10nm for the desktop is still a year out or longer for Intel and now their 14nm line is back logged and they are going to use TSMC for more production. To be honest this is the worse I have seen Intel perform in a long time. I think Zen 2 will likely outperform current Intel chips if they can get the frequency up just a bit.
If Intel managed to get its 10nm to even remotely acceptable yield, the first 10nm products out the door would have small dies (i.e. U-series laptop processors).
I highly doubt that 8-core desktop processors would be one of the first 10nm products out the door.
I do wonder if Zen2 will be performance bound to memory speed in the same way Zen1 is. Maybe it'll work with 4200 ram and be faster? If the engineering sample is already working at 3600.
I feel like infinity fabric, while being a super slick implementation, is Zens problem. If the architecture could run that bus independently.
Exciting times. I do wish they would make a good APU though. 2400g was soo close, but not quite there.
like a GT-1030 i thinkWhat CPU+GPU combo would a 2400g replace? I am running a i3-4170 with Intel Graphics, so let's say I go out and get one of those instead of a GPU for my current system, what would it compare to?
What CPU+GPU combo would a 2400g replace? I am running a i3-4170 with Intel Graphics, so let's say I go out and get one of those instead of a GPU for my current system, what would it compare to?
maybe.like a GT-1030 i think
probablymaybe.
its about thereprobably
Even if Zen 2 isn't as fast as the 9900k, it's still going to be priced cheaper seeing as the 9900k is looking like a $480 MSRP. WORST case for AMD you're looking at 90% performance for 70% of the money.