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As long as it doesn't last longer than four hours at a time...
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"My ePeen can only get so erect!!" -PCMR
Actually, the Switch itself only consumes about 9w or so maximum when not charging.Can we take a moment to appreciate the Switch version too? It's not *nearly* as downgraded as I expected.
This is a portable that draws only 15.7W of power. To me this is an incredible achievement.
I would happily play that version of Doom on the train during my commute.
Except any decent PC bought in the last half a decade only needs a GPU the price of a console to be vastly superior.But console fanboys be like.
Yes, but they always under price a console, basically its always the base model. So in can $600 for the xbox x. Then if you want all four controllers your in for another $65 a pop, or $195. Now your at $795 and you need a tv, so $300 for HD, $1000 for 4k.
Yeah the tv will outlast the console (hopefully), but your true initial cost is closer to $1,600+.
I bought a 1080GTX, sat it on my desk, and plugged into to my monitor. Nothing happened. What else do I need to do to make it run Doom?
It's sharper, but why is it so washed out? I prefer how the Xbox looks as it is closer to original (if PC is the reference).
The Switch is ok for what it is, but runs at half the framerate and is blurry and flat looking relatively speaking.
You get what you pay for? Shocker! If they're going to do comparisons, it might be fun to compare the various consoles vs. a PC that costs the same.
People always say this, and it's a fallacy. You purchase a computer and can upgrade it. The initial cost may be high, but it doesn't cost much to maintain or improve when you want. I'm still rocking an overclocked 8320 and my last upgrade was a 290x I got as a steal. When I upgrade again, I'll just get a new motherboard/ram/cpu and drop the 290x back in. Case is fine, PSU is fine, HD's fine, monitor and peripherals are all fine. Like I said, I'm still on an 8320 and really have no reason to upgrade at the moment for my needs. When I do, It will cost less than an XBOX1X.
What really makes the console versions of this FPS worthless is the fact that you will most likely be playing it with a gamepad, with freakin' [Edit]Well, no shit. That doesn't make the console versions worthless.
Let's not also forget that with PCs, online is free. Also, on PC, you have the choice of multiple online stores, and the games you buy are backward compatible, so you don't have to buy them again every time you upgrade your graphics... and how about all the sales and bundles... and, and, let's be honest, the online PC community is far FAR less toxic.Yes, but they always under price a console, basically its always the base model. So in can $600 for the xbox x. Then if you want all four controllers your in for another $65 a pop, or $195. Now your at $795 and you need a tv, so $300 for HD, $1000 for 4k.
Yeah the tv will outlast the console (hopefully), but your true initial cost is closer to $1,600+.
What really makes the console versions of this FPS worthless is the fact that you will most likely be playing it with a gamepad, with freakin' auto aim.
Let's not also forget that with PCs, online is free. Also, on PC, you have the choice of multiple online stores, and the games you buy are backward compatible, so you don't have to buy them again every time you upgrade your graphics... and how about all the sales and bundles... and, and, let's be honest, the online PC community is far FAR less toxic.
Sorry about that, my console lingo is not quite up to the par. I have made the necessary correction.No, it does NOT have auto-aim. Christ, aim assist has been a common part of console FPS games since the first Halo on the original Xbox, SIXTEEN years ago. I think it is well past time people stopped pretending they don't understand the difference.
All I have to say!
I can confirm that the game plays great on a GTX 1080.$500 GTX1080 used for test.
(confirming your statement)
I can confirm that the game plays great on a GTX 1080.
I can confirm that you in fact cannot play this on the Switch, because it doesn't come out till tomorrow
I'm not going to read the rest of that, but uh 65*4=260 (not 195).And 4 controllers? Worst case they would be buying 2-3 controllers, as pretty much any console comes with at least 1 controller
I bought a switch so I can play Doom on a long road trip, or on the can, or in bed. THAT REASON ALONE SHOULD MAKE YOU WANT TO BUY IT. That game is going to look fucking amazing on a 6" screen. It wont hold a candle to my PC though, but that is decidedly less mobile =P
Why cant I have both?
I like this, but if I wanted to make a poster out of it, the background can't be all black... it will kill my printer. Photoshop experts, get crackin' !
People always say this, and it's a fallacy. You purchase a computer and can upgrade it. The initial cost may be high, but it doesn't cost much to maintain or improve when you want. I'm still rocking an overclocked 8320 and my last upgrade was a 290x I got as a steal. When I upgrade again, I'll just get a new motherboard/ram/cpu and drop the 290x back in. Case is fine, PSU is fine, HD's fine, monitor and peripherals are all fine. Like I said, I'm still on an 8320 and really have no reason to upgrade at the moment for my needs. When I do, It will cost less than an XBOX1X.
Can we take a moment to appreciate the Switch version too? It's not *nearly* as downgraded as I expected.
This is a portable that draws only 15.7W of power. To me this is an incredible achievement.
I would happily play that version of Doom on the train during my commute.
For the cost of their rig, you could buy all 3 of the normal consoles (Xbox One S, PS4 Slim, Switch). Probably a couple games and some accessories, too. The video card alone costs more than Xbox One X or PS4 Pro. It’s a laughable comparison. Of course it looks better. It's like showing a Tesla next to a Camry.
The PC does a million other things too.
Not sure if the Xbox One X can upgrade Doom, but it wouldn't shock me if it could
What really makes the console versions of this FPS worthless is the fact that you will most likely be playing it with a gamepad, with freakin' [Edit]auto aimaim assist.
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Yea but most people already have a TV for other purposes. And I know some of you on here will try to deflect and say I'm wrong you've used a monitor and you know x many people that don't own TVs, but its pretty unanimous at least in America that almost every household already has a TV of some sort. Obviously not 4k HDR 120hz OLED or something crazy, but they do have a TV. So it doesn't make sense to include that.
And 4 controllers? Worst case they would be buying 2-3 controllers, as pretty much any console comes with at least 1 controller, usually these days there are bundles to get two (my xbone came with 2 and the switch only comes with one but functionally can be split apart to give 2 player out of the box. Not to mention PCs do not come with a controller at all even though they are borderline mandatory these days if you're into the types of games that are most popular on console.
The truth is, for the vast majority of people, the cost of a console is simply buying the console + buying games. If they are into playing online, then you can tack on that as well, but that's about it as far as comparisons to PC gaming go.
And while PC games still have great sales through Steam and such...
If you've been paying attention you'd know that for the most part Amazon has been aggressively working to change that giving a pretty giant discount on any new game purchases if you're a prime member, which most people are, and Sony at least has pretty amazing deals on the store each month. Horizon can already be had for $20.
Like, at one point in time I agree, they were pretty close, but these days you can pick up an Xbox One S for $249 or a PS4 slim for $300 and... that's all you need. That will come with the console, a controller, and if you shop around, a game as well.
And if you get a yearly subscription to Live or PSPlus then that isn't any more than $20 a year if you look around on black friday. And each of those services include monthly games as well.
So really, for $350~ max before tax you could have a current gen console fully equipped and ready to play.
I just really fail to see how any PC you could build for that price would be able to include a legal copy of Windows, a really nice controller that runs $60, and be just as easy as plugging it into the wall and into the TV you already have while still providing a fluid experience and graphics equivalent to those consoles.
And I say all this as a guy with a really nice PC and a 144hz monitor. I know the power of PC, but I just don't understand how you don't see that the price of a console is, not matter how you slice it, better value for your money.
Its just that here on hardocp, its not better value for our money because what we value and what the general market value are very different things.
1. 4 controllers total, the figures I gave already accounted for the 1 controller included.
2. TV absolutely makes sense, you have to have one to run any console, and just by having a console it adds to that desire to have a bigger/better tv in the house. If we are going to be accurate on this portion of the cost we'd need to know that average time a TV is spent being used by a console vs a cable box.
3. buying old hardware at a discount (non-pro/x models) same can be done with a PC. If your just running 1080p you can easily work with a 9xx series gpu.
4. buying old hardware does not make you current.
5. never said it was a better value, just that people always under value the cost of a console.
It comes with one controller and thus he calculates 65*3 which is indeed 195I'm not going to read the rest of that, but uh 65*4=260 (not 195).
That most people do not do. Also, the consoles also do quite a few more things than play games as well.
Actually the people using PCs in general far outnumber people using them strictly for gaming.