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The Official GTX980/970 OC & Benchmark Perf. Thread

Sweet! Hell I'll fire up Titanfall tommorrow and see how is! Does the 4790k only support 16 PCI lanes? I was looking at that CPU at one time but decided to hold off.
 
I will join in :)

My standard review system.

MSI GTX 970 GAMING Model - Default Out-of-Box Clock
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3DMark
Fire Strike - Score: 10060 (Graphics Score: 11652)
Fire Strike Extreme - Score: 5112 (Graphics Score: 5319)


MSI GTX 970 GAMING Model - Maximum Stable Overclock (Will reveal overclock in Review)
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3DMark
Fire Strike - Score: 11251 (Graphics Score: 13232)
Fire Strike Extreme - Score: 5745 (Graphics Score: 6031)
 
Coming from a GTX 780 Ti Classified I am thoroughly impressed with this GTX 980 SC.

3dmark Firestrike Extreme score: 6619 http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/4174342

Quick OC of 1500mhz GPU / 7500mhz MMY / +40mV -- need to tweak fan profile a bit as the core dropped to 1480 or so for a few during the bench. In the Metro LL bench the 980 GTX is 9 frames faster (avg 100fps! @ max settings sans PhysX and SSAA) than an OC'd GTX 780 Ti @ 1228/7500.
 
i7-4770k @ 4.5Ghz
GTX 970 @ 1320/1920

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DASHlT said:
Yea I am sure OCN have people working on the Bios's as we speak. If we can unlock the TDP on these cards it would be amazing.
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Oh, I already have worked on it a good bit. The BIOS part is easy enough (it even has voltage tables by default with ranges up to 1.312v which may or may not work, but power limiter is virtually certain to take regardless with a simple BIOS tweak), it's the lack of an nvflash capable of writing to GM204 in DOS (to bypass the UEFI cert) that's the issue. You get two main errors when attempting to flash a BIOS that you mod right now with these cards:

From my try:
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When you mod the BIOS you get the hash error in the above pic due to the checksum 32 mismatching the original:

Code: 
stock crc-32: 165FEEB2
stock checksum32: 011D9480
stock checksum decimal: 18715776

mod crc-32: CD1F7512
mod checksum32: 011D9680
modded checksum decimal: 18716288

Once converted to dec, you can see the difference is +512 stock to mod.

Here's the original file...
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You can mod either a blank section that is left at the end, in some cases, but as my check32 was in the "wrong" direction (meaning I had to subtract, not add data to the blank section at the end of the file), I had to edit an error text to get it to even out and match the original highlighted in the pictures...

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Being ASCII text it is safe to edit... that fixes the HASH mismatch error in the nvflash shot, but the UEFI cert is seemingly enforced by the driver now and no one has found a workaround yet in the past that hasn't involved a DOS version of nvflash. Unfortunately, as I said at the start, no such version is publicly available just yet, so no one can actually test their mods :(, including myself or any of the "usual suspects" on various forums :p.
 
Marcdaddy said:
Sweet! Hell I'll fire up Titanfall tommorrow and see how is! Does the 4790k only support 16 PCI lanes? I was looking at that CPU at one time but decided to hold off.
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I think it depends on the motherboard and chipset. It's basically a refresh of the i7 4770K with better TIM under the Lid and a lower TDP/voltage. It also comes with a higher out of box frequency. IMO it's the same chip really. Slight differences but it saves you from Delidding your 4770K to get the Tim right.



Marcdaddy said:
What program are you guys using to Overclock? Right now im using EVGA Precision X.
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I used afterburner at first but switched to Precision X. To be Honest I like precision X's new interface a little better. I could see someone who has used afterburner for years and is used to it liking that better though. Both should have your card screaming and your games begging for mercy :D

Marcdaddy said:
Sweet! Hell I'll fire up Titanfall tommorrow and see how is! Does the 4790k only support 16 PCI lanes? I was looking at that CPU at one time but decided to hold off.
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I'm not sure actually. I think most Z97 chipset boards have 2 pcie 3.0 x16 slots that work at x8 x8 if you use 2 cards. That should be enough bandwidth. Anything I saw on gaming shows that the new X99 chipset makes very little difference in gaming aside from some games or apps that are really multi core dependent. The thing that turned me off on X99 was DDR 4. The ram is too expensive and I know it's going to get much faster. I just can't bring myself to pay $450.00 for 16 GB of the current ram out there when in probably 6 months ram that is twice as fast will sell for less than that. Quad Channel DDR 4 is not spreading its wings just yet.

Brent_Justice said:
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True Story: One time I met a very famous porn star. I spoke to her for about 3 hours and we hit it off tremendously. I had her laughing and eating out of my hand. We decided to go somewhere we can be alone and talked more. She then asked if I wanted to hang out are her apartment and have a netflix night. I said sure and we watched about 2 movies over popcorn and wine. NOTHING Happened. Trust me I don't lack game but moral of the story. You are a worse tease then her LMAO :D
 
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Just a warning though, The Precision X 16 (v5.2.0) display server is buggy. It causes games to lose the mouse pointer, lockup, or crash. It also affects a few other apps like some video players. If you run into the issue, you can add the game to the display server's blacklist by right clicking it's tray icon.
 
LurkerLito said:
Just a warning though, The Precision X 16 (v5.2.0) display server is buggy. It causes games to lose the mouse pointer, lockup, or crash. It also affects a few other apps like some video players. If you run into the issue, you can add the game to the display server's blacklist by right clicking it's tray icon.
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Oh wow thanks!!
What drivers are everyone running with these card, the newest Betas?
 
Lord_Exodia said:
True Story: One time I met a very famous porn star. I spoke to her for about 3 hours and we hit it off tremendously. I had her laughing and eating out of my hand. We decided to go somewhere we can be alone and talked more. She then asked if I wanted to hang out are her apartment and have a netflix night. I said sure and we watched about 2 movies over popcorn and wine. NOTHING Happened. Trust me I don't lack game but moral of the story. You are a worse tease then her LMAO :D
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I will say this, I could reach 1600MHz without artifiacts, without locking up. However, within a few minutes it would start throttling down due to the power limit. The power limit/TDP is the limiting factory of the overclock, not the temp, not the voltage. There's more headroom on the GPU than there is power limit/TDP cap.
 
Brent_Justice said:
I will say this, I could reach 1600MHz without artifiacts, without locking up. However, within a few minutes it would start throttling down due to the power limit. The power limit/TDP is the limiting factory of the overclock, not the temp, not the voltage. There's more headroom on the GPU than there is power limit/TDP cap.
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My MSI non gaming 970 is hitting TDP and throttling even at out of the box clocks. If I crank settings and resolution the voltage and the clocks will start backing off. If I lower some settings it will maintain full boost and proper voltage.Needless to say I will be returning my card and getting the gaming version or something else.
 
Yeah, I am seeing the same thing, Brent. It is clocking down and binning it's volts even, to try to meet the power limiter. :( that new nvflash can't come soon enough :p!
 
Yea....the 1 thing I tread in Nvidia cards. Power limit. It was the reason MSI had to pull back that special bios on the 780 lightning.
 
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1500/8000/+40mV -- still throttles due to TDP since temps stay low. Hopefully a BIOS update by skyn3t is released soon.
 
Brent_Justice said:
I will join in :)

My standard review system.

MSI GTX 970 GAMING Model - Default Out-of-Box Clock
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3DMark
Fire Strike - Score: 10060 (Graphics Score: 11652)
Fire Strike Extreme - Score: 5112 (Graphics Score: 5319)


MSI GTX 970 GAMING Model - Maximum Stable Overclock (Will reveal overclock in Review)
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3DMark
Fire Strike - Score: 11251 (Graphics Score: 13232)
Fire Strike Extreme - Score: 5745 (Graphics Score: 6031)
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I look forward to your review.

I did a quick overclock with mine and the results are below. This gpu is on a spare rig, so its just a 4670k.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/4184523

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gpu-z
 
I am getting lower scores on firestrike than most of you. Are you all disabling everything in the OS to run firestrike?

My rig is in my sig below, except I have SLI 970 Gigabyte G1's in it right now. Looking at 11500 in firestrike with a +100 core and +500 memory.

I dont get it....
 
Crazy Chuckster said:
I am getting lower scores on firestrike than most of you. Are you all disabling everything in the OS to run firestrike?

My rig is in my sig below, except I have SLI 970 Gigabyte G1's in it right now. Looking at 11500 in firestrike with a +100 core and +500 memory.

I dont get it....
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Are you running Firestrike or Firestrike Extreme?
 
Crazy Chuckster said:
I am getting lower scores on firestrike than most of you. Are you all disabling everything in the OS to run firestrike?

My rig is in my sig below, except I have SLI 970 Gigabyte G1's in it right now. Looking at 11500 in firestrike with a +100 core and +500 memory.

I dont get it....
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Nope, I'm just running everything as I normally do for everyday use including Kaspersky antivirus, MSI Afterburner, SB-Z control panel, OneNote clip tool, etc. etc. under Windows 8.1.
 
I get 9500 with 1 780GTX and my 2600K I, Something isn't right. Sidenote I cant wait for my 980s to show up on Tuesday and yank thesae 780s out.
 
Updated Sig

New rig is running great. I was able to get my cpu to 4.8 easily. I'm tempted to try for more but I'm running out of time tonight. Ram overclocks great too but I'm leaving that at stock until I figure out my max stable CPU and Video Card clocks.

I'll be updating my benchmarks in this thread soon. :)
 
Lord_Exodia said:
Updated Sig

New rig is running great. I was able to get my cpu to 4.8 easily. I'm tempted to try for more but I'm running out of time tonight. Ram overclocks great too but I'm leaving that at stock until I figure out my max stable CPU and Video Card clocks.

I'll be updating my benchmarks in this thread soon. :)
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Well then ill be staying awake!! Can you let me know if your running both cards at 16X and 16X on the pci 3.0? Im just curious seeing that ive been stuck at pci 2.0 with these 2600K for so long.
Which 980s did you go with? I have the Gigabyte 980s coming Tuesday.
 
Lord_Exodia said:
Updated Sig

New rig is running great. I was able to get my cpu to 4.8 easily. I'm tempted to try for more but I'm running out of time tonight. Ram overclocks great too but I'm leaving that at stock until I figure out my max stable CPU and Video Card clocks.

I'll be updating my benchmarks in this thread soon. :)
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Well then ill be staying awake!! Can you let me know if your running both cards at 16X and 16X on the pci 3.0? Im just curious seeing that ive been stuck at pci 2.0 with these 2600K for so long.

your not running Quad Channel Ram?
 
Ok all of my settings in nvidia control panel are stock, sli and gsync are on.

Im just using the free version of 3dmark and it runs the firestrike demo at the beginning. Think that might have anything to do with the low scores?
 
Crazy Chuckster said:
Ok all of my settings in nvidia control panel are stock, sli and gsync are on.

Im just using the free version of 3dmark and it runs the firestrike demo at the beginning. Think that might have anything to do with the low scores?
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Turn Gsync off then run the test.
Turn it off in the control panel fully, if that works Enable it then just go into the 3dmark profile and disable it.
 
Marcdaddy said:
Well then ill be staying awake!! Can you let me know if your running both cards at 16X and 16X on the pci 3.0? Im just curious seeing that ive been stuck at pci 2.0 with these 2600K for so long.

your not running Quad Channel Ram?
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Sorry Marcdaddy my man cave is closed for the night. my 5 year old is asleep and i can't wake him. I'll update benchmarks probably tomorrow. My Pcie 3.0 slots run 16x for one card or 8x8 with 2 cards, just like the P67 chipset, however they are pcie 3.0 so the 8x @ pcie 3.0 has more bandwidth than 8x @ pcie 2.0. In any case I don't think we're at the point of saturating the pcie 2.0 8x bandwidth unless you get a dual gpu card and even still I'm not sure. As far as Quad channel ram, that's for the new X99 chipset with DDR 4. Cas latency is high on most of the DDR 4 chips out there. If your not spending over $450 on ram in a DDR 4 setup your not getting anything truly fast. That's why I chose Z97 instead. I'm running dual channel DDR 3 but I paid less than half of what a 16 GB DDR 4 kit would have costed me for quad channel.:)

Also benchmarks on my cpu @ 4.8 show that it keeps up pretty damn well against the newest 8 core and 6 core intel chips. They are more future proof but Damn that setup would have costed me a lot more. I'll skip X99 and see what's next. By then DDR 4 prices will come down and speeds will come up tremendously.
 
Well my zotac 980 clocks to about 1402 mhz. It goes up to about the mid 1400mhz range but throttles down to 1402 mhz while maintaining at 80c during heaven loop. Being that this was just a first attempt I am thoroughly impressed by the cards overclocking potential.

Also quick question, does every 980 have a power limit of 125%? I was pleasantly surprised to see the zotac reach that level.
 
FRZ said:
Well my zotac 980 clocks to about 1402 mhz. It goes up to about the mid 1400mhz range but throttles down to 1402 mhz while maintaining at 80c during heaven loop. Being that this was just a first attempt I am thoroughly impressed by the cards overclocking potential.

Also quick question, does every 980 have a power limit of 125%? I was pleasantly surprised to see the zotac reach that level.
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Yes as far as I know they all do. That's one of the better selling points of the GTX 980 vs the GTX970 currently. 165 watts instead of 145 watts and if I'm not mistaken 125 % vs 110 % on the GTX 970.
 
Hi, can someone help me understand the TDP function of these cards? I have a G1 Gigabyte GTX 970 that draws 74-79% TDP during overclock despite setting a 112% power target in PrecisionX 16. Bumping the voltage does not seem to increase the power consumption draw as much as it should. I'm seeing people able to draw 110% power consumption in some screenshots. Is there an option I'm missing to bump or unlock the TDP scale?
 
pedophilekiller said:
Hi, can someone help me understand the TDP function of these cards? I have a G1 Gigabyte GTX 970 that draws 74-79% TDP during overclock despite setting a 112% power target in PrecisionX 16. Bumping the voltage does not seem to increase the power consumption draw as much as it should. I'm seeing people able to draw 110% power consumption in some screenshots. Is there an option I'm missing to bump or unlock the TDP scale?
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The G1 cards actually have higher TDP in their bios.
 
Is there a way to move the TDP target from software side? Or would I have to edit bios to change the power consumption? Thank you.
 
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