The Official 100 HDCP ready video card list.

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  1. Casej18

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    Well i bought the powercolor version and the best that i can find on the box is "HDTV ready" Does that mean the same thing?
     
  2. mentok1982

    mentok1982 [H]ardness Supreme

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    No. It can display HD signals but it does not have the hardware protection chip on it. You
    will be able to display full resolution HD DVD and Blu-ray movies only if their Image Constraint
    Token flag is not active. For more info check out the HDCP Wikipedia page I linked to in the
    first post of this thread.
     
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    Thanks for the help man
     
  4. perry753

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    Woops haha my bad. I thought the revised cards from Evga were all HDCP but I was wrong.
     
  5. mentok1982

    mentok1982 [H]ardness Supreme

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    Newegg has the MSI 7900 GT for sale now! Link is in the first post and right here.

    Only $269.99! One of the cheapest 7900 GTs on Newegg.
     
  6. mentok1982

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  7. Bona Fide

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    This thread needs a STICKY on the double!
     
  8. Terra

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    Why?
    Is there a sudden stream of HDCP movies that I'm not aware of?

    Terra...
     
  9. mentok1982

    mentok1982 [H]ardness Supreme

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    True. This thread is not very important now, but I hope it will be in the future.
    This is currently one of the only places on the web that has a list of HDCP cards. In post 2
    there is a link to a AVS thread but it has not been updated in a while.
     
  10. mentok1982

    mentok1982 [H]ardness Supreme

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    Finally another HDCP ready card surfaces. A new MSI 7600 GT, this time with HDMI!
     
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    Just added the news on the 7950 GT. I am wondering if this is the new 7900 GT with HDCP
    that Nvidia was talking about.

    7950 GT will be HDCP ready.
     
  13. mentok1982

    mentok1982 [H]ardness Supreme

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    Added the X1950 XTX to the list with the press release link and a review that mentions HDCP.
     
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    mentok1982 [H]ardness Supreme

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    Unfortunately it was not the people at hothardware that "said" that. They copied the
    reference "X1900 XT Feature and Specifications" list from ATI and pasted it in their review.
    That review is from June 2006 which I think is before ATI had to edit their Feature and
    Specifications for all their cards to NOT include the phrase: "HDMI compliant and HDCP
    ready". People were very angry at ATI for listing it in there when it was not true.

    This all goes back to the fact that since the Radeon 8500, ATI's GPUs have been ready for
    HDCP, but the manufacturers (like HIS) were not putting the necessary components on
    their cards to make the cards HDCP ready.

    Lastly here is the site for that card and HIS makes no HDCP claims at all. It does have
    some nice features though. VIVO and editing stuff.

    In summation, no, the HIS X1900XT IceQ3 is not HDCP ready. Thank you for asking and
    for trying to make this list more complete. :D
     
  16. mentok1982

    mentok1982 [H]ardness Supreme

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    I just found out that there are 6 (count them 6!) 7900 GTXs made by XFX that are called:
    "XFX GeForce 7900 GTX 512MB DDR3 HDCP RoHS Ghost Recon Bundle"

    I have found no proof that these cards are actually HDCP ready...yet.:( If any of you find out
    anything please let me know.

    I have added these cards to the first post and I have included links to their XFX webpages.

    EDIT
    I also added the list of all the retail X1950 XTXs that I have found so far.
     
  17. mentok1982

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    What a huge day for HDCP!

    I found two more 7900 GTXs, I have listed all the 7950 GTs that I have found and I have listed
    all the 7900 GSs that are HDCP ready so far.
     
  18. Ajax9000

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    What would be good is if MSI made an HDCP-enabled derivative of the NX7900GT-VT2D256EZ.

    Passive cooling (or a large+slow fan) is what I'm after for my HTPC project. A "NX7900GT-VT2D256EZ HD" or a "NX7900GS-VT2D256EZ HD" would be very nice.

    And selling them outside Europe would be helpful too! :)

    Of the cards already listed, the GeCube X1300 256MB GDDR2 HyperMemory 512MB HDCP Slim HeatPipe Edition GC-HV13HPL2-D3 and Gigabyte 7600 GS GV-NX76G256HI-RH (HDMI) could be a little underpowered (plus I've gone off ATI recently). The Leadtek WinFast PX7600 GT (non-TDH) could be OK given that it is a GT and uses a large+slow fan ...

    Adrian

    PS Links to all the 7950GTs are now on http://www.gpureview.com/GeForce-7950-GT-card-445.html, but none of the images on the links show fanless designs.

    PPS Correction! The teaser at http://www.xfxforce.com/media/serie...0d85a9aad9001d/7950GT_comp202_NoDLW_b_A41.pdf says that the PV-T71J-YHEX and PV-T71J-YHFX are passively cooled.
     
  19. kuyaglen

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    All I need now is Vista, cause I got an eVGA 7950 GX2 and a Gateway 21" FPD2185W.
     
  20. mentok1982

    mentok1982 [H]ardness Supreme

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    Added the Evga 7900 GTX.
    Added two MSI X1950 XTXs.
     
  21. compwarez

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    where can i buy hdcp 7600gt video card.
     
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    Will anybody explain to me if I have a no-HDCP vga in Vista system and try to watch any hi-res movie throu dvi what will happen? Will I see something and in what res? Then HDCP is content protection not copy protection....hmm....example you have Blu-Ray or HD-DVD writter in your rig. You need HDCP card and monitor for watching but you can easilly copy entire movie with something like dvd x-copy platinum from 321studios (meaning something similar to x-copy but for Blu-Ray or HD-DVD) to your HDD and write it to a blanc disc. What kind of a protection is that? Explaine me, please. Thanks in advance.
     
  24. mentok1982

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    Well when the Image Constraint Token (ICT) on a next gen disk is turned on all hardware
    used to read and display the content will need to be HDCP ready. Until there is software
    out there that can bypass this, next gen discs with the ICT turned on cannot be ripped.

    If the next gen disc does not have ICT or it is not turned on, you should be able to rip the
    information from it with software that can decrypt the data from a next gen disk. DVD
    X-Copy Platinum might need an update to be able to handle the decryption of a next gen
    disc that is not using an ICT.

    I hope that answers your questions, and I hope that I worded that reply correctly. We all
    will know more about this stuff once you can get a HD-DVD or Blu-ray drive for a good price.
     
  25. gvlada

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    Tnx for replay. I wasn't shoore about the real meaning of HDCP. I just bought Samsung 205BW which has HDCP chip, so I have only to wait till Vista and HDCP cards. The only thing is now I have to look around for meaning of ICT. Tnx.
     
  26. Devnull

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    Any idea if the X1950 Pro cards will be HDCP ready? I wouldn't mind having HDCP support when I upgrade, but I don't know what I will be able to affoard.
     
  27. mentok1982

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    That will depend on the manufacturer I guess. As far as I know ATI has not said: "All X1950
    Pros will be HDCP ready." They did say that for the X1950 XTX though.

    Keep it tuned here though. I will add the X1950 Pro info once I get some.
     
  28. mentok1982

    mentok1982 [H]ardness Supreme

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    I added the GeCube X1900 GT, MSI 7900 GS, PowerColor X1600 Pro and X1300, and the
    Asus X1900 XT. What did you do today?

    NOTHING! :mad:

    EDIT:
    I also got rid of the all the "HDCP ready proof" links. I think they were making the list too hard
    to read and if a card is on the list, it is HDCP ready. I kept all the "Card review" links and
    "Newegg link" links though.
     
  29. RangerXML

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    Sorry to "dood doo" on everyone one fun and this list, but we are mere months away from DX10 which will more then likely start this whole mess over again with new video cards. Not to mention you also need an HDCP ready monitor, not just a video card. Not to mention we won't see a steady flow of Blu-Ray or HD-DVD Roms till propably next year around mid to end summer.

    In order to watch an HDCP movie you'll need 3 things (figureatively): HDCP media (either d/l video, DVD, Blu-Ray or HD-DVD), an HDCP video card and an HDCP ready monitor. Not including proper codecs and filters. This is gonna be a major pain just like when DVD first came to the scene.
     
  30. mentok1982

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    Well the media, HDCP ready video cards and monitors are here right now, and some people
    already have all three! :eek:

    Also this list is not meant to be "fun". It is only information. Information which has to be
    pulled from many sources and as far as I know this HDCP video card list does not exist
    any where else on teh Interweb.

    I decided to start the list more than 2 months ago because it is easier to gather this
    information before HDCP becomes widespread. Imagine trying to start this list next
    month. It would certainly take a while to get it together.

    Lastly, I am an admin over at GPUReview.com and we just changed the site so that you
    can see what video cards are HDCP ready when you click on a card type like "7900 GS
    PCI-E". Soon we are going to create a way to display all the video cards that are HDCP
    ready that are in our database. Maybe then I will stop updating this list and just post a
    link to that page. We shall see.
    GPUReview.com's 7900 GS PCI-E page.
     
  31. compwarez

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    where do i buy this card "Gigabyte 7600 GS GV-NX76G256HI-RH (HDMI)"
     
  32. mentok1982

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    Well it "launched" on 8-17 with a press release on Gigabyte's site but I can't find it at any
    retailer yet. It should be available soon I hope.

    I would keep your eye on the MSI NX7600GT Diamond Plus as well.
    http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/vga/vga/pro_vga_detail.php?UID=758
    It is also not available anywhere right now, but it should be soon.

    EDIT
    Kyle got his hands on the Diamond Plus and it was used in the article I linked in the next post.
     
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    mentok1982 [H]ardness Supreme

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    I added Newegg links for the X1950 XTXs and the 7950 GTs.
     
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    Just listed (but no pics): NX7950GT-VT2D512EZ. Passively cooled, so should be directly in competition with the <--->MSI</---> XFX card.

    Adrian
     
  36. Frosteh

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    I have some questions about HDCP support, any answers would be appreciated

    I have a 7950GX2 and an Iyama CRT 19" monitor that can support upto 2048 1536 resolution

    1) What is the resolution of HD movies running at max quality?
    2) My monitor has a standard analogue connector and my video card has dual DVI output on which I attach a dongle to change the connector type, can HD be played out through a DVI output (using a DVI to analogue converer dongle) and still display on an analogue monitor?
    3) Does the 7950GX2 support HDCP decoding? If not is it possible that driver updates in future could add this functionality or does it need a bit of hardware that cannot be emulated with a video card (even a very fast one)
     
  37. mentok1982

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    1) 1080p which is 1920x1080 for the 16:9 aspect ratio
    2) Kyle answered this in the Nvidia PureVideo HD article that is on [H]ard|OCP's front
    page and it is also linked in the first post of this thread in the news section. Here is the
    part that answers your question:

    "CRT & SVGA

    Our next stop with our PureVideo HD technology was on the lab testbench. We have
    several older 19” ViewSonic monitors that will do 2048x1536 resolution at very good
    refresh rates that we use for testing multi-GPU video card configurations.

    Using the MSI 7600GT’s DVI output with a SVGA adapter we attached the system with
    the HD DVD player and were easily up and running. We had a much different experience
    with our older SVGA monitor than we did with our plasma TV. The picture quality was
    again stunning, but this time the delivery was perfect. The entire HD DVD movie
    experience with the pop up menus and such was seamless and intuitive. If you have ever
    seen any of the “shot for HD” specials on Discovery Channel HD, a lot of our watched HD
    DVD movies are pushing superior levels of quality with higher bitrates.

    So, we found that our with a SVGA connection to an older CRT, that we had no troubles at all."


    The below paragraph is why it works:

    "ICT or Image Constraint Token

    As of now, none of the HD DVD or Blu-ray movies being produced contain the ICT or
    Image Constraint Token. This technology is rumored to be activated in HD DVD and
    Blu-ray copyrighted movie technology around 2010. The current lack of this ICT is the
    reason we are able to play our HD DVD and Blu-ray movies on older displays that use an
    analog connection. Once the ICT is put into place, your older analog display will not be
    able to play the movie at all or will show it in a lower-than-HD resolution.

    The ICT is not in place now to allow HD DVD and Blu-ray copyright content to be much
    more easily viewed by more end users."


    3) I don't know what you mean when say "HDCP decoding". The 7950 GX2 should be able
    to do all the HDCP and HD stuff that you would want to do because it has the HDCP
    circuitry on the card, just like all the video cards on this list.
     
  38. Frosteh

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    I've just read through the HardOCP HDCP article and they say:

    So I need:
    A HD DVD Drive (which I might get soon)
    A CRT montior that has a analogue connection and very high res (check)
    Beta Drivers (check)
    Beta HDCP player (check)
    A DVI output video card with a DVI to Analogue dongle (check)

    So I dont actually need a HDCP supported video card OR monitor, to get HDCP output, as long as it uses an analogue connector?

    Will the analogue connector provide a worse IQ?
    Will the analogue connector force the HD DVD to play at lower resolution?
     
  39. mentok1982

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    Not until the ICT is implemented and at that time you will also need a HDCP display
    connected with DVI or HDMI.

    I don't think so. Not unless you can see a difference between 1920x1080 delivered via an
    analog cable and 1920x1080 delivered by a digital cable. You might want to ask the folks
    in our Display section about this one.

    Not until the ICT is implemented on HD media.
     
  40. Frosteh

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    Cool, seems a bit stupid to me that theres so much hype around this HDCP supported hardware, when you don't even need it!

    Although I do conceed that most people don't have montiors that support them kind of resolutions now a days, too many people jumped ship to TFT montiors and their rubbish low res displays :)

    I knew my Iiyama monitor would last near on a lifetime, by the time 2010 hits it will all be cracked anyhow I expect, and we'll have CPU's fast enough to do decoding etc, in fact by that time we'll be on for the next-next-gen DVD storage I expect *grin*

    Anyhow, great news! I might be buying a HD DVD player soon :)
     
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