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Discussion in 'HardForum Tech News' started by HardOCP News, Apr 29, 2013.
Have fun with paying malpractice insurance and stuff.
Problem is there's only 1 management job for every 10 engineers. My company recently made a "technical" path that some have climbed. Same pay as management, more fun.
Not from what I've seen based on my clients
You'd be crazy to go down this route. 8 years of college minimum + all of the liability with working on other people's mouths?
No thank you
Ok, so I just finished up my first semester with a 4.0GPA, and am going to have to make a decision on which way I want to go pretty soon. I'm thinking EE or polymer science (Univ. of MS) - am not sure which way to go. I'm going to be honest, differential equations and CAL IV scare the shit right out of me, as does organic chemistry (for the P.S. degree) - any words of wisdom from those who have lived it? Also, I'm a bit of a late starter, I'm 35...is that going to fuck me over?
I fled from o chem. Now I cook for a living and it's fun
I always say do what you like. That's why I'm a ME. honestly don't let the classes scare you. Anything can be done if you put the time and effort into it. Cal and DE Were easy for me but I just get math plus I took them on the junior college level so they may have been easier and had smaller classes. Good luck at univ of ms. Personally I'm a bulldog ha hail state. But that talk is for another forum.
The only thing I know about organic chemistry is that understanding electronegativity is very very important...but I'm not quite ready for that yet (if ever...)
I work at everything, otherwise, what is the point in going and getting into debt? Those 18-19 year old punks scraping by with their C's and D's makes me sick. I want a better job, I want a better future, I want to have something to contribute aside from ability to answer fucking phones. I'm sick of this nickle and dime dead-end bullshit. Yes, I should have done it earlier, but hey, no time like the present and all that.
I'm honestly scared, but that isn't going to stop me.
I majored in Chem E and graduated during the huge recession. I was fortunate enough to be offered a six figure salary entry level job in the Oil & Gas industry. I also got large bonuses and awesome perks. After a couple years, I've left the industry but I never regretted it one bit. Learned a lot about an industry that everyone thinks they are an expert in. Plus it helped paid off my student loans in a year time.
So yeah. If all you care about is making tons of dough and you like a work lifestyle, Chem E, Petroleum E, and Mech E degrees into the O&G industry is a great choice.
You'll be fine with that attitude.
Just looked into pharmacists and their salaries. You're telling me the people whining about when the weekend is going to come behind the drug counters at Target are getting paid over $80k a year? That disgusts me.
I'm going to investigate mechanical engineering. Even if I fail or end up in an average-paying job, I'll be able to convince people I'm some kind of Tony Stark.
Im an EE, and my starting at my first job out of college was higher than that by more than $10k. My current job (been here 2 years), I have been promoted 3 times and I dont make that much more than when I started here and I have a shit ton more responsibility/work.
Engineers have a very low $$$ ceiling unfortunately.
Have to move into project / people management for bigger $$$ or invent some crap that sells for $$$$$$$$$$$$.
Yea, I figured early on. If your not Petro, Chem basically you arent going to be making 6 figures very easily. Thats why I am going back for a masters this fall. But at least the starting salary is pretty solid.
It was by far the hardest class I took but I liked o chem.
Consultants make good money with EE and ME.Have to have a live to work mentality though.
I tried to apply for a consulting job but I don't have enough experience is what most say. I would dig a job that allows me to travel and work on different projects. I dont mind putting in 60-70 hrs a week, I already do that between my two job anyways.
Pharmacist seems like a way more cush job than dentist, though. Plus no digging around in people's mouths.
To make it on your own as an engineer, you pretty much need a professional engineering license.
Funny, I don't see History on that list.
/checks pay stub
Depends on what school you want to go to. I have a UC liberal arts degree, and a UC will not let me go back for an undergrad degree.
Don't feel like paying 100k to get the same thing at a private school, either.
I was taking community college classes to learn everything I'd need to go straight for a master's program, but then someone offered me a decent job. Hard to say no to making a living.
It's really funny since a drug dealer can make more with no real training or skill.
Computer science degrees are risky because they can easily be outsourced and the finished product be transferred back to the US
As an ME you can work anywhere in the world. I know, I've done it for the last 25 years.
I have an ME degree and I have been a process engineer, materials engineer, software engineer, database engineer (including a one year assignment in Malaysia), quality engineer, and currently environmental engineer ... I haven't really done anything like true ME work since I originally graduated ... definitely one of the most flexible degrees
I have a Mech Eng Degree, and work in Naval engineering. PEng license coming in June, don't need it for doing work as a naval officer in the CAF. Getting my PEng will be a good backstop if I feel like moonlighting or getting into defense contracting. I don't crack $100k yet but I got 12 years of pensionable service and counting which I would not have in the private sector. In the Canadian private sector PEngs can make some good coin.
My boss (a submariner) is releasing soon and will be getting out with a $75,000/year indexed federal pension... not bad for a Maj/LCdr who already hit the 35 years pensionable cap.
Engineering is a great way to start your career, but most won't get very far with it. It sounds great when you start at $65k after graduation, but unless you get your MBA and move to management, you're probably going to cap out at ~$130k.
I'm a class of 2010 EE who is getting out of the field as fast as I can. It was great while it lasted, but it's time to move on.
Hah, I make more than the Petroleum Engineer's starting pay, my job title is "Network Engineer" and I don't have my associates yet.
No replacement for military experience and a little networking in the right location.
I do need to get off my ass and knock out my last couple classes before my next hop though. Want to finish my bachelors before my GI runs out.
Looked at College. Decided to get a certificate and employ myself and others.
Money is money at the end of the day. But freedom from corporate America is bliss.
Man, no Biology representation on there. I thought at least something in the Health Care industry would make it. That's what I do, working in a pathology lab at a city hospital, I'd come in at about #2 on that list after 7 years working. To qualify took 4 years of college for my B.Sc., followed by 3 further years to get MLT certification including a clinical year where I basically worked for free. Then I had to actually find and get the job. It was a struggle but given the choice I'd definitely do it all over again, especially college. Best years ever.
Wrong on all three accounts.
Not meaning to start an argument, but I have been continually surprised from reading Freakonomics, which is ridiculously fun.
Theres a level of outsourcing with computer science. there is a upper limit to what companies are willing to outsource. If you get a degree at a top school with good grades you will be fine.
Computer Science IS an engineering level degree. It's called Software Engineering
CS majors don't get the broad based course load that engineers get in their first 2 years.
Just because we don't take engineering 101? The end result is a degree that is considered to be an engineering LEVEL degree. IE equivalently weighed.
Did you consider going to a CSU?
Ain't that the truth.
Well, obviously they are equally weighted as they are both BS's (although some schools award BE's to Engineers)
But last I checked, CS's don't take
-Physics (Mechanics, E/M)
-A mechanics of solids class
These are the differences as to why schools don't formally call CS majors "engineers"
I see your point. I took 3 semesters of engineering level physics at my university but none of the other courses.
My main point was that it's no surprise CS is right up there with "engineering" degrees because the degree is equally difficult to achieve.
In other news, nearly half of US college grads are underemployed.