The GeForce RTX 2080 Ti is Too Damn High! @ [H]

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  1. kamxam

    kamxam [H]ard|Gawd

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    Let people buy what they want. It's their money. If you don't want to pay that kind of money to get a 2080 type card, then get a 1080Ti or such for whatever you can afford.. No one is forcing anyone to buy one. Yes, the price is too high at the moment in my opinion, but CONSTANTLY complaining about it just makes people look dumb i think. Unless a huge portion of their customer base doesn't buy it, nothings really going to change too much. Plus, if 5-6 months down the road, it goes down in price to $900-1000 or possibly even lower, (Yeah, Right!) people will be praising the stars for it about what a great deal it is now. I have a Titan XP atm. Would i like a 2080Ti? Yes i would. But i'm perfectly willing to wait and see if anything better comes out. If not, then chances are i'll be able to pick up a 2080Ti hopefully when it's a little cheaper or at least not being gouged by the retailers like it is right now.
     
  2. eclypse

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    5-6 months there will be better cards most likely. Something better then a ti I bet.. why else would they release the regular and ti st the same time?
     
  3. Brahmzy

    Brahmzy [H]ardness Supreme

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    Yeah, no. Not going to happen that fast.
    And there will always be something better coming. Duh.
     
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  4. AngeloBJ

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    After all the shit talking I did....I started shopping for a 1080ti to upgrade my 980 TI FTW. All I can say at this point is I'm probably going to break down and pay way to much for a 2080 Ti. It's slim pickings for 1080Ti cards these days.
     
  5. loki1944

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    The last few years I've been willing to pay ~$740 per Ti (780Ti/980Ti/1080Ti) card for around ~$1480 for 2-way SLI, but the unabashed (and undisciplined) greed on display here by nvidia is just dishonorable and frankly; insulting. This unbridled greed is a huge turnoff to me; to the point where I'm going to run my 1080Tis rather than entertain any notion of paying the ludicrous prices marshalled by Nvidia. If anything, in a year or so I will look to the used market.
     
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  6. loki1944

    loki1944 n00bie

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    There have been plenty of used 1080Tis on ebay for sub $600.
     
  7. loki1944

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    1080Tis are selling well under $700 on ebay including shipping, in the buy it now section some are $620 with shipping. In auction they have gone sub $600.
     
  8. AngeloBJ

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    'Used' being the operative word. I like my PC components shiny new.
     
  9. loki1944

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    I have yet to buy a used GPU from ebay that looked any different than a new one; that's why there are pictures. I've bought 11 used GPUs in the past two years and all but 1 work pristinely. The one that did not work I returned and money was refunded within 48 hours.
     
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  10. AngeloBJ

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    I get it! I'm all about a deal. This is just an area where I prefer to buy new.
     
  11. eclypse

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    Kinda crazy the 1080ti is selling used at $600 when the new card that's $11-1300 is just a little bit faster. Nuts right?

    1080tis either should be selling for 8-900 or maybe the 2080ti should be $8-900 max.
     
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    And they are gonna get higher with the new tariffs. :( All the more reason to upgrade now. Can you see them asking 1500-1700 for a video card?!
     
  13. Gideon

    Gideon [H]ard|Gawd

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    You can ask anything you want for a product, doesn't mean people will buy it. I expect some serious chapped butts on here after 1080 stock clears out and prices collapse on the 2080 stuff.
     
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  14. harmattan

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    The used market will no doubt start rising to the levels we saw earlier this year. Used 1080 tis will go back to $600-700. Smoke 'em while you got 'em.

    By design or not, this all falls into nV's plan to condition the market to higher prices.
     
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    From who, Santa Clause? No, there will not be better cards out in 5 or 6 months.

    AMD has a good shot at beating the 1080 Ti in performance ... I'm going to say ... by not a huge margin. Will AMD have Ray-Tracing? Who knows. Doubtful. When AMD does launch their new cards, whenever that will be and the performance is that of a 1080 ti or slightly better, it will be forced to compete on price so I would expect those cards to be around $500. All guess work, but who really knows.

    If you guys want a 2080 Ti then listen to me, I can seriously help you.

    Take 15 to 20 mins out of your day, make sure your cell phone is charged. Prepare yourself to dig around your closet, garage, basement, shelves, etc ... make a mental note and or, grab pen and paper and do this. Dig in and pull out all the shit you don't use, want or need. Write everything down. Drag all of that stuff to your room and start listing it. Now, advice on how to list that stuff. Be honest about condition, number one. Two, don't be one of those unrealistic guys that asks for NEW prices on a 3 year old SSD, or, whatever it is. Make sure you have the best price on Craigslist or Facebook Marketplace or you simply won't sell anything anything soon. Got an old case? Ask $29 for it. Old DDR3 memory, 16GB, ask $75 or less. Old 1TB hard-drive, $29. Trust me, I sell this crap all the time. Those are the prices that crap sells at. And sure, I can get slightly better prices on trade ins, finds, personal crap but I you want a new video card now and not weeks and weeks later, get it gone. Motherboards, CPU's, Video Cards, case by case basis. I promise all of you that you have $500 to $1000 laying around decaying. And if you don't then what the hell are you doing on HardOCP? LOL.

    Don't bitch about it ... be about it. Make it happen.

    I have a 2080 Ti and it's fucking ridicules.

    Good luck.

    Here is my new build. 99% percentile across the board. System in my sig. $2,700 in parts give or take $50. What did I sell my old system for? $1,090 + 345 + 1600 + 85 + 50 = $3100 something. I sold a few video cards, the main system, old memory, speakers, and maybe one or two odds and ends. New system didn't cost me anything.


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    They released the same amount of 11gb memory from the 1080ti. That's the point I'm making.. gonna sting a bit if they release a 14GB version 2080ti months from now.

    I mean people buying this card to upgrade from a 1080ti must be doing it for 144hz 4k. And would need 2 for those frame rates.. more memory sure would help I would think.

    I just blew around 6k in a vdrum set. I could buy 2 2080tis (I'd wait for the ftw3 model).. $1350 ea and 2 el blocks prob $170ish ea and a 144hz 4k monitor $1800 = $5300ish after tax.

    I'd have to move out of the country to hide from my wife if I did! Haha

    Selling the 2x evga 1080ti =$ 1000 after fees.. a 1080 classified =$320 after fees. Dell 34" 1440 wide screen = $500 guessing used.

    $1820 - $5300 = $3400.. not worth the cost for ultimate 4k gaming.

    Could just re hook up my 40" 4k 60hz screen but I wouldn't need to upgrade for that.
     
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    This is so great. The way you set it up, I thought there were gonna be steps for a magick spell.
     
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    LOVE IT! But you forgot the last part...spend the next 3 weeks looking for one because no one has them in stock anymore. :p
     
  19. kirbyrj

    kirbyrj Why oh why didn't I take the BLUE pill?

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    So then you game on a 1080Ti and realize you don't really "need" an upgrade and save money.

    Personally, I'm thinking of downgrading from 4k to a 1440p Gsync monitor and sitting on my 1080Ti when a reasonably priced 2080Ti would have been purchased.
     
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    harmattan [H]ardness Supreme

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    Did you really just put "2080Ti" and "reasonably priced" next to each other? I'm drunk, but I'm not that drunk.
     
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  21. kirbyrj

    kirbyrj Why oh why didn't I take the BLUE pill?

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    I'm saying that if it were reasonably priced I would have purchased one (assuming I could find one). Since they aren't reasonably priced I'm not purchasing one ;).

    Even a reasonably priced 2080 non-Ti (Say $549-599 like the 1080 started at) that would have offered 20-30% improvement like Maxwell to Pascal would have been considered. My $500 1080Ti has no competition at its price point. I canceled my $900 (after taxes) 2080 pre-order when I figured out it was 10% improvement for $400.
     
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  22. eclypse

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    Yeah I guess after the 2017-18 drought, nvidia noticed that the big spenders had deeper pockets then they thought forking out -$12-1500 bucks for a top of the line card.. so after that they quickly decided to not wait 11-12+ months to release the top card.. release the ti now at $1200ish and then I think go for broke and drop a 14gb card a year or less for $1500!

    Temping as "eh, it's a new top of the line card to get excited about." Really in my position I have no need for it for 1440 gsync 120hz res. The 1080ti will do.. if that changes and the newer games tank the frame rate I'll slap my other 1080ti in the system and have at it. Sli is usually supported by the games I play anyways.

    Starting off fresh with a system.. yeah I'd prob want the latest card.
     
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  23. Brahmzy

    Brahmzy [H]ardness Supreme

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    “Just a little bit faster”

    LOL SMH

    2080 Ti WRECKS the 1080 Ti @ 4K. Huge performance improvement.
     
  24. eclypse

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    Ne tuff to know.. I only have a 60hz 4k screen and the 1080ti could handle that no problem. Prob is I wanted higher frame rate and bought a 34" 1440 120hz gsync wide screen and that satisfies me.

    If I wanted 4k the 1080ti can do it.

    If I wanted ray tracing at 4k yeah I'd have to buy a 2080ti. But then it would play at way less then 60hz again at 4k.

    So what I'm trying to say is no reason to upgrade from a 1080ti unless you want 2 for 4k 144hz gaming.. and if your rolling in dough and plan on buying or already have a new 144hz 4k screen.

    By the time the prices drop on those 144hz 4k screens to around 800-1000 bucks there will be cheaper cards or newer cards out.
     
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    Yeah nvidia should of called the 2080 a 2070 and the 2080ti a 2080 and come out with a higher memory card later on and called it the 2080ti.
     
  27. Brahmzy

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    2080 makes little to no sense right now.
     
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    Those are interesting numbers. In that light, the 2080 look like a bad buy (I mean, worse than it looked before). Maybe RT/DLSS will save it.
     
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    My biggest issue is I’m sittin on a 980ti and I NEED to upgrade and my options suck crap!
     
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    I am right there with you. I've been eeking out and meager 4K 60hz existence with a highly overclocked 980ti for quite some time. The last year or so, it has started to show its age significantly with me having to turn quite a few settings down. I held off on getting a 1080ti at launch to stretch out the lifespan of my purchase and "wait" till the next generation was released. Joke's on me I guess, since nVidia has turned around and pulled an "Apple" on it's entire consumer base. I can more than afford a 2080 ti but I have never let myself be bent over a table by Apple before and I am not going to allow nVidia pull the same tactic on me either
     
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    Nowinstock looks like a christmas tree for 2080 (non Ti), no stock problems there! Price needs to come down to $599 maybe?
     
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    Why do your options suck? Get a 1080 ti on discount and be happy. Will be a 50% improvement over that 980 ti in any case.
     
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  33. Brahmzy

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    Don’t do a 1080 Ti - not enough horsepower at 4K. I had TWO 980 Tis in SLi with great scaling and I flipped em for a 2080 Ti FTW3 Ultra.
    Just bite the bullet n get a 2080 Ti. Your wallet will be lighter, but then you’ll be very happy.
     
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    No, a few Microcenters had 2080 Ti's drop shipped yesterday to a handful of stores. Also, Newegg and Best Buy had stock yesterday around 7pm.

    These are $1200 cards. While very popular, they are not impossible to find.
     
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    Maybe but that's asking a lot from guys that just dropped nearly $900 dollars on "future games" ....

    Nah, the 2080 is a horrible purchase imho.
     
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    I am still waiting for my BB 2080ti FE to ship since 21Sept. It does appear they are posting actual quantities now and not onsies twosies. I think the 05Oct date is real.
     
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    That’s good news! I’ll have to check today! As of Tuesday everyone in Houston was sold out
     
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    Yeah, after the first batch of buyers, I wonder if there will be 2080Ti cards sitting around everywhere immediately by November. Hard to say. $1200 is a lot.
     
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    I've been looking at the nowinstock page, and the Best Buy ones seem to pop up the most often. When you click on the link though they can't be ordered online.

    I was hoping the Nvidia Store would get the 2080ti FE's back in stock soon, but this just doesn't seem to want to happen.