The AMD Next Horizon Gaming Keynote Live Stream

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  1. Pieter3dnow

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    I'm looking forward if AMD is going to have higher clocked Navi version in the works that is more interesting.
    Since you can buy the performance already at set price (there abouts).
     
  2. MMitch

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    What's wrong with 450 price tag if it's equal or a little over a 2070 ? I just checked quickly on US newegg and 2070 is 500+++
    We shall see how it plays out.
     
  3. Pieter3dnow

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    Vega performance for Vega prices 2 years later .....
     
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  4. primetime

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    yea im thinking these new cards are more of a side grade for us with vega64's especially considering we only spent 350'ish
     
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  5. Snowdog

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    Does 500+++ mean a few for $499 and others over $500?

    Navi is a credible offering, pretty much what reasonable people expected (not the $250 of those other rumors people have been citing for 6 months).

    I wonder what NVidia's response will be. I remember not long after Vega 56 beat the 1070, they released the 1070ti, so it makes something like the improved 2060/2070 more likely.
     
  6. 5150Joker

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    The sharpening feature seemed like an NVIDIA game filter rip off which is a rip off of ReShade. The prices were disappointing as NVIDIA will match those and still tout hardware ray tracing as a feature. The anti-lag is a pure gimmick, no e-sports pro would ever notice 1 frame difference in a meaningful way. The blower design is really ugly, looks like someone melted or crushed the top of it, don't know what they were thinking there. NVIDIA easily has them beat with its dual fan design for cooling. Overall I'm disappointed by the price of these cards but the performance will at least be there to bring some competition to NVIDIA though I'm still waiting to see NVIDIAs presentation with its new Super lineup.
     
  7. N4CR

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    $449
    Remember AMD sells direct now too.

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  8. Dan_D

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    Pretty much. However, I think the new parts probably have higher margins since they don't use the costly HBM2 memory.
     
  9. Nobu

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    Yeah, it's about what I expected after reading/watching AMD's presentations leading up to this. A bit disappointed, but not surprised.
     
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    Does anybody know the actual die size for navi?

    I've read elsewhere the 5700xt is only 232~mm^2 but obviously nothing solid. I wonder what's holding them back from making a big 400mm^2+ monster... If such a tiny chip is ahead of the 2070 (which is around 450mm^2, save a bit for the RT complex..) they should be able to scale this up into 2080-2080Ti territory.

    Yields not there at 7nm yet? Don't want to instant obsolete the Radeon VII?

    I like the latency reduction feature and the new post processing toys, but I'd really like to see something getting into 2080 Territory before I pull the trigger. 5700XT will be a side grade from my vega 64, which interestingly, isn't even doing that much better than the overclocked maxwell Titan I just dropped in my other rig in a lot of games..
     
  11. Pieter3dnow

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    Well you as a Nvidia owner would know from 1st hand experience what gimmicks look like ;)
     
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    Did they say anything specific about power draw on the 5700 or XT? If so, I missed it.
     
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    Couldn't watch this at work, so no news regarding the sub $350 market?
     
  14. lightsout

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    Drop the 16 core!
     
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    Here it comes....
     
  16. pendragon1

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    and theres the 3950x everyone was asking about...
    sept, $750
     
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  17. Pieter3dnow

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    I find it odd that they market the 16C32t as a gaming cpu at $749.
     
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  19. Dan_D

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    They did. $749.99.
     
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  20. MMitch

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    Streamer maybe ?
     
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    I agree, since it is moving to HEDT market, but on the plus side, you can plop it into a AM4 socket.
     
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  22. Pieter3dnow

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    Multi boxing Diablo 3 16 times ?
     
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  23. Chimpee

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    Does a streamer really need all that thread?
     
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    That 3950X gave me goosebumps :cool: thats a nice bit of kit,,,,,, i cant wait to see what i get to drop into TR4
     
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    Streamer can absolutely put it to use depending on their configuration and what game they are pushing.
     
  26. odditory

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    2070 drop to $399.
     
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    Holy crap, neck on neck with 9900K in games, some eenyweeny bit faster and some eenyweeny bit slower. Margin of error shit basically. :eek: I really hope these numbers stay true at the release as well.
     
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  28. Nobu

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    16c would help with 4k live, although not strictly necessary. Would be nice to have if you also edit your videos and reupload them after the stream.
     
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    I put them in a special category where they probably get all the virus and spyware of the world so yeah, more cores for those apps lol.
    To be honest I don't know... I would think they may if they play a demanding FPS while streaming high quality.

    16C is overkill for near anyone but that price makes it a niche product anyway.
     
  30. MMitch

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    Where can you buy that today ?
     
  31. exlink

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    I'm interested in the 3950X. Navi left me feeling just "whelmed".
     
  32. Pieter3dnow

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    Yeah that is true. I used OBS to record some raids in WoW with 50K bit rate and I had to turn down the cpu usage to 2nd lowest option (in OBS) on my 1800x (before DX12 patch).
     
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  33. Stoly

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    Radeon 5700XT power draw is 225w
    Radeon 5700 Power draw is 180w (isn't it the same as the RTX2070?)

    Not really impressed by those numbers considering its a much smaller die at 7nm vs 12nm
     
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  34. Snowdog

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    Initially that is what I thought but then later they put it to use.
    This actually is a DLSS replacement. It might only be resizing and sharpening, but in most the testing I have see, that kind of thing beats DLSS which has really failed to live up to hype(complete flop IMO).

    I actually suggested AMD do something like this back when DLSS was revealed.

    The bonus here is that it doesn't need training, and it should work at nearly any resolution or frame rate:

    https://www.anandtech.com/show/14527/the-amd-next-horizon-gaming-keynote-live-blog
     
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  35. odditory

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    He asked "I wonder what Nvidia's response will be."
     
  36. Chimpee

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    Nice, I assuming it is ran at resolution where GPU is not bottleneck? Sorry couldn't watch this at work so not sure what resolution they ran the bench at.
     
  37. MaZa

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    They said it was at 1080p so yes, GPU was not a meaningful bottleneck.
     
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  38. MMitch

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    Lol sorry and thanks for pointing it out. Reading comprehension is important and I failed here.
     
  39. Darth Kyrie

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    I think it may just have to do with tape-out costs at this point, 7nm isn't cheap after all.
     
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  40. Stoly

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    BTW no mention of VR either.