The 10980XE can do 5.1Ghz with standard water cooling as tested by Intel.

All the 14nm Intel line that Intel promotes is about en of year destocking. They are preparing massive 10nm launch at the beginning of 2020 which will put at pity all their old 14nm line.
So wait a little bit and Intel will slash the prices on this 14nm line of products or you can get much better performance on their new 10nm line. Frankly, the 10980Xe has been proved in real life to be on par with the 3900X, is put to shame by the 3950X. So you pay double the price of AMD equivalent or better hardware and AM4 will live on Zen 3 when you can be sure than the X299 won't go on 10nm HEDT. I was impressed by the new Intel prices, when Intel decided to half them, but now, we can see why they did it and it's still not interesting.

 

Standard water cooling huh? Desperate times call for desperate measures.

 

yeah. Threadripper is fine.

 

Common sense tells anyone that a 3900x would not be on par with a 10980XE.

Wait for a reputable review before you state these things as fact...

 

Overclocked it won't but in standard mode that is the mode you should use your CPU it's on par. How much real power will an overclocked 10980XE at 5GHZ draw. 250, 300W, even more ? Not sure how the motherboard may support that.
And actually what happened is that the 9980 dropped at $1000 by Intel (not you local reseller) , and the 10980XE has been pulled from any announcement and we have to see what happens. Maybe only waiting for the 3950X and 3960X official announcements at AMD. If AMd drop their prices on the 3950X and 3900X and then put the 3960X at say $1000, Intel will have to drop the 10980Xe price by quite a bit and they don't want it to look it's because of AMD. That's supposition but maybe something else will come.

 

“Standard mode”. Yeah lock your cpu to that. Because

“standard mode that is the ”mode you should use your CPU it's on par.

good one.

 

I mean 10980Xe and 3900X are on par if you don't overclock.

 

Xe $1000 From intel.com
3900x -$500 half price.

 

www.theonion.com

 

Intel won't have 10nm desktop anything in 2020. It will be 14++++ and then Intel 7nm.

 

Why is no one correcting him on his IPC claims? A 10980 XE at 4.8 would not be faster than a 9900k at 5.0. In fact it is more likely to be the other way around.

 

you DO realize that the gaddamn AMD section of the forum is that way: --------------------->
Right?


This is like those X2 days when the AMD cheerleading squad loved to hijack threads. 16 years ago. Like history hasn't told you anything.


Organik.......if "standard" cooling is an AIO, I wouldn't trust the AIO, had one and it went bad after 4 years, had to get a RAM for the AIO. Got a replacement part but I didn't use it, I got sucked into the Loop, now my 9900KF does 5.2GHz with 89 degrees temps with all 8 cores under full load. Not the "gaming" mode, all 8 and 16 threads FULL load.
It's expensive but a Loop is better than an AIO.

 

LoL - good rebuttal.

 

A 14 core Skylake running at 5.0 ghz (9990xe) struggles against a 12 core 3900x, but an 18 core Skylake running at 4.8 ghz will 'trash' a 16 core 3950x.

Yep, that makes sense.

 

These new SkylakeX CPUs are so amazing that I already purchased the following today in preparation! Now just waiting on the 3950X release

 

i think i picked worst time to upgrade, and i knew it but went ahead. as my old pc crapped out, atleast the cpu.

 

If all you do is game a 9900k will last you years. The KS might be 5% faster OC vs OC best case.

I don’t expect anything interesting for at least a year or two.

 

The Intel all core and single core boost is higher than AMD's so your point is invalid, it isn't going to trash much unless you it under insane cooling and clock it to the moon, but then it is like taking a BMW M3 hotted up and putting it against a Audi R4 and being shocked. Of course then heat and power guzzling is going to be a major issue.

 

I don't think so. It's not going to happen without some black magic process refinements, which even for Intel would be a stretch at this point.

https://www.legitreviews.com/intel-core-i9-9980xe-extreme-edition-processor-review_209016/8

https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/8801/intel-core-i9-9980xe-extreme-edition-review/index7.html

 

I havent come across a standard water cooler, which water cooling standard do you mean?
Is this a standard "Intel" water cooler of some form or something someone made up?
It would help to describe the standard.

 

I didnt suggest it is a rumour.
It is unclear what they mean.
It is vague and therefore unsubstantiated.

 

Dammit Nenu. It was on the internet so it has to be true.

 

Aren't like 90% of all AIO's sold in the US made by ASETEK and basically all mostly the same regardless of brand on the packaging?

 

Is that what Intel were using?

 

jesus.

850 watt psu for a single gpu system.

wow.

 

Did you miss his invisible /s or did you forgot to put yours in ?

 

lol, perhaps he has money to burn in an instant on very specific products from a seemingly random geezas comment on the internet, from a secret supply ...

 

Well I can understand someone buying XYZ while been drunk, on an impulse, loyalty, etc... but his statement was beyond rationality..
I hope he was been sarcastic and understood that if 1+1 = 2, well 1 x 2 also equals to 0 ... You can't get better results using the same simply because you want to.

Trying the same thing over again and again hoping for a different outcome is pure madness. The first observation will somewhat scale to the new SKUs and will probably be even worse for Intel without exotic cooling.

Anyway, can't wait to read more replies... popcorn time.

 

Perhaps I should have put /s
I agree with you.

 

All you fanboys are forgetting how much slower ring bus is. Its not a 18 core 9999kyzfc it's a 18 core old Xeon shitbox which is far higher latency and far lower IPC than anything else you're used to from Intel.
It's already looking 3900x ballpark... With more cores.
Your muh 5 gigahurtz ain't going to help here.

 

Actually isn't ring bus (1151 mainstream) faster than the mesh they use in the Xeons and HEDT parts? Hence why the mainstream 9900k is faster than a comparable HEDT part. Maybe I mixed that up though.

 

I never said 9980XE...I said 9900k. Thanks for playing though.

Additionally, I was talking about the ring bus (mainstream) vs the mesh (HEDT) not clockspeeds. At identical clockspeeds, the mesh is slower in certain tasks (e.g. gaming).

 

No worries .