Tethering and Verizon

HiDDeN sTaSh

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I have an iPhone 4 and I was thinking about unlocking it just for the soul purpose of getting an app to run tethering from it.

Would this work or does Verizon have this secured where you would have to pay for there tethering services?
 

nerdydesi

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Do you mean USB tethering or wifi tethering? At least on Android, they are blocking tethering apps on the official market (everyone except Sprint for now), but I have been a heavy tethering user with my Thunderbolt but no complaints from VZW yet and no throttling. Whereas ATT at least has sent warning text messages to their customers that if they don't stop, ATT will automatically sign them up for a plan.
 
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HiDDeN sTaSh

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Yeah I was referring to the WiFi tethering. I'll have to do some more research on it then.
 

tangoseal

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Yeah I was referring to the WiFi tethering. I'll have to do some more research on it then.

Jailbreak your iphone. I have my 3gs jailbroken and I actually purchased mywi. Its fantastic but now that I am activating a thunderbolt tomorrow I will have 100% legal tethering and hotspot as a Sold Packaged function of the phone.

The networks can't detect you having a tethered iphone. There is no way to tell, and if they bitch just tell them you watch netflix non freaking stop and streaming audio etc.... you are supposed to get unlimited bandwidth.

its getting ever impossible to brick iphones now as people have had over 3 1/2 years to get it right!
 

Tark

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The networks can't detect you having a tethered iphone. There is no way to tell, and if they bitch just tell them you watch netflix non freaking stop and streaming audio etc.... you are supposed to get unlimited bandwidth.

Just keep believing that.

Tark
 

mobusta1

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Jailbreaking and unlocking are two different things. What you want to do is jailbreak. Once you've done that you can go into cydia and buy the mywi app. It will do exactly what you want it to do - wifi tether.
 

entropism

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Technically, yes, they can tell. And technically, yes, they can call you on it. But in reality, they just don't. Not unless you REALLY abuse the crap out of it. Granted, who knows what Verizon will crack down on at any moment...
 

Tark

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AT&T users have already been tapped. I know of one to the extent that service has been stopped and they owe the termination fee for violating their service agreement.

Tark
 

Erasmus354

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Well then show us how they know???

They have access to all the data that is sent from your phone. On the face of it they might not be able to distinguish http traffic from your phone and http traffic from your tethered laptop, but there is more they can see. There are traffic patterns that are typical of certain devices, the data that a laptop consumes looks different from the data a phone consumes. For example, phones don't use bit torrent protocols.

So if they really wanted to they could run forensics on your data and determine with a high certainty whether you are tethering or not.
 

J32P

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They have access to all the data that is sent from your phone. On the face of it they might not be able to distinguish http traffic from your phone and http traffic from your tethered laptop, but there is more they can see. There are traffic patterns that are typical of certain devices, the data that a laptop consumes looks different from the data a phone consumes. For example, phones don't use bit torrent protocols.

So if they really wanted to they could run forensics on your data and determine with a high certainty whether you are tethering or not.

I believe they do...fyi

That said, your other points still stand.


As for tethering, of course they know. For one your usage sky rockets. For two, they could scan your packets and know whether or not it's coming from your actual
phone or a tethered computer. That said, they're kind of in a hard place as the tethering loophole is legal so they just have to eat it right now. They bank on dumb users not knowing the work around. That said, they've just announced data caps so it won't be as fun in the future tethering if you plan on heavy usage.

Here's an example of heavy usage.



Man will I miss this! FU Verizon. :D:D
 
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CuE0083

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They have access to all the data that is sent from your phone. On the face of it they might not be able to distinguish http traffic from your phone and http traffic from your tethered laptop, but there is more they can see. There are traffic patterns that are typical of certain devices, the data that a laptop consumes looks different from the data a phone consumes. For example, phones don't use bit torrent protocols.

So if they really wanted to they could run forensics on your data and determine with a high certainty whether you are tethering or not.
Wouldn't that violate wiretap laws?
 

MrValentine

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Wouldn't that violate wiretap laws?

Acctually I dont think so. Wiretaping laws only loosly apply to cell phones when concerning voice. DATA on the other hand is in no way protected under wiretaping laws. This is why VOIP solutions such as Skype or MagicJack can listen and run marketing programs against your conversations then use that data to target your email advertisements.

FYI GPS is also not protected. The carrier can look at that data at anytime, as could your employer (if they pay for your phone).

And just so everyone knows. The ISP can tell phone or PC by the browser type, they are completely different even when using the same brand.
 

Tark

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And just so everyone knows. The ISP can tell phone or PC by the browser type, they are completely different even when using the same brand.

And browsers can send out identifications that they are a different browser or if they are a mobile or desktop browser. The ISP don't know anything they can take to a court by looking at the browser identifier.

Tark
 
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