Tesla Cracks the America's Top 10 Best-Selling Sedans List

[Lenard]

Your article is a bit out of date (July); F-series sales have slowed down since then, with increased costs plus a plant shutdown (hurricane) both being blamed. Regardless, a single product line is responsible for a disproportionate amount of Fords profits, and the cost of that product has been going up significantly; there's a reason why the 84 month auto loan is a thing. Investors are VERY worried about how Ford is going to whether the next recession, which combined with it's relative lack of EVs or a self-driving initiative is dragging down it's stock price (down 50% over the past 5 years).



I've never said FCA wasn't doing well, just noting their CEO has been trying to sell the company or parts of the company.

https://jalopnik.com/fiat-chrysler-boss-openly-considers-spinning-off-jeep-1794700937
https://jalopnik.com/shit-got-too-real-for-sergio-marchionne-1793356952
https://jalopnik.com/chinese-automaker-geely-offered-to-buy-fiat-chrysler-fo-1823530854

"Blah blah blah. Politics this and politics that"

Note: Before Trump the price of cars was getting lower. I remember. Truck started at 50k when Obama took office and started at 7k when he left office. Now Trump has brought the starting price up to 90k for a base model.

Note on the Note: I just made all that up.

 

[Dr. Righteous]

Your article is a bit out of date (July); F-series sales have slowed down since then, with increased costs plus a plant shutdown (hurricane) both being blamed. Regardless, a single product line is responsible for a disproportionate amount of Fords profits, and the cost of that product has been going up significantly; there's a reason why the 84 month auto loan is a thing. Investors are VERY worried about how Ford is going to whether the next recession, which combined with it's relative lack of EVs or a self-driving initiative is dragging down it's stock price (down 50% over the past 5 years).



I've never said FCA wasn't doing well, just noting their CEO has been trying to sell the company or parts of the company.

https://jalopnik.com/fiat-chrysler-boss-openly-considers-spinning-off-jeep-1794700937
https://jalopnik.com/shit-got-too-real-for-sergio-marchionne-1793356952
https://jalopnik.com/chinese-automaker-geely-offered-to-buy-fiat-chrysler-fo-1823530854

If you have not kept up with the recent new; Sergio Marchionne died and there is a new CEO at the helm. So at best it is a wait and see situation.
I know one of the big pushes was to sell Fiat cars in the US. That was a failure mainly because cars like the Fiat 500 are junk.
Yep. A small compact that gets crappy gas mileage isn't really a sports car. Who would buy that??

 

[gamerk2]

"Blah blah blah. Politics this and politics that"

Note: Before Trump the price of cars was getting lower. I remember. Truck started at 50k when Obama took office and started at 7k when he left office. Now Trump has brought the starting price up to 90k for a base model.

Note on the Note: I just made all that up.

You're the one bringing politics into it; I just noted the car costs are going up across the board, and the reason why.

If you have not kept up with the recent new; Sergio Marchionne died and there is a new CEO at the helm. So at best it is a wait and see situation.
I know one of the big pushes was to sell Fiat cars in the US. That was a failure mainly because cars like the Fiat 500 are junk.
Yep. A small compact that gets crappy gas mileage isn't really a sports car. Who would buy that??

I'll put it this way: FCA has still been looking for buyers, but buyers seem more interested in Jeep then anything else. We'll see.

And yes, Fiat cars are crap. But getting back to my original point: American cars aren't seen as much better.

 

[Dr. Righteous]

But getting back to my original point: American cars aren't seen as much better.

Don't know. Not owned any foreign cars personally with the exception of the Toyota Camry my wife had when we got married. That thing was one break down after another so I got rid of it. Sold it to my brother in law. The first time his son drove it he blew the engine up racing it.
Bought the wife a Grand Cherokee and she loved it. She was mad when I sold it when it hit over 200k miles but never had a since issue (other than maintenance) She now drives a '14 Jeep Compass AWD and loves it. (Bought it new off the dealer lot as a surprise for her)
I have a '14 Ram 1500 4x4 with the hemi. Nicest truck I've ever owned and still runs and drives like new; it is about to hit 90k.
The only think I'm dissatisfied with is the single 10" sub I installed. Gonna go with 2 12s

 

[gamerk2]

Don't know. Not owned any foreign cars personally with the exception of the Toyota Camry my wife had when we got married. That thing was one break down after another so I got rid of it. Sold it to my brother in law. The first time his son drove it he blew the engine up racing it.
Bought the wife a Grand Cherokee and she loved it. She was mad when I sold it when it hit over 200k miles but never had a since issue (other than maintenance) She now drives a '14 Jeep Compass AWD and loves it. (Bought it new off the dealer lot as a surprise for her)
I have a '14 Ram 1500 4x4 with the hemi. Nicest truck I've ever owned and still runs and drives like new; it is about to hit 90k.
The only think I'm dissatisfied with is the single 10" sub I installed. Gonna go with 2 12s

It's rare for Camrys to have breakdown issues, especially multiple ones. They generally are good for 150k miles easy.

 

[vegeta535]

It's rare for Camrys to have breakdown issues, especially multiple ones. They generally are good for 150k miles easy.

This is the bs shit that needs to stop. All car can last forever if taken car off. Toyota drivers are boring people that always keep up with the maintenance schedules and never gun it. Drive under the speed limit. I ownoed Fords, BMW, suburu and Honda's in my life. Guess which gave me the most problems. Mechanically the Suburu broke down the most. The Honda was brought new and everything in the interior kept falling off. Those were cars that I had when I was was younger. The BMW M3 I had was driven hard for 5 years and never had a issue til a asshole slammed into it and totaled it. Haven't had a issue with either the Ford fusions I had for the past 5 years.

 

[c3k]

The first car I ever crashed was a '97 Sable LS in white. I was young, stupid, and tried to pack a dip of Copenhagen at 60mph while driving with my knees on a county highway. I touched the gravel shoulder, grabbed the wheel, over-corrected, started fishtailing (with cruise control on... derp,) and got t-boned by a telephone pole which ricocheted me through a stone wall at the edge of a field. That poor car looked like it had been through a war - all of the windows (yes even the windshield) were shattered, frame severely bent, at least two of the wheels were completely broken (all 4 tires were flat, so I may have cracked the other two as well,) and the radiator was punctured. Despite all of that, the only injury I had was a tiny cut on my ear from some of the flying glass. I'm not sure if it was luck or just a ridiculously safe car design. As far as driving went, it was vastly superior to the more recent iterations of the Sable/Taurus. I drove my parent's 2007 Sable a while back, and that thing was horrific even before I had been spoiled by my A6.

Yeah, but did you pack your dip?

 

[Dr. Righteous]

It's rare for Camrys to have breakdown issues, especially multiple ones. They generally are good for 150k miles easy.

Yeah, I was really surprised since it was really nice car; never abused. It was a '96 I believe. At 110K miles it started to have problems. About the 3rd time within a year I had to have it worked on I decided it was time to be free of it.

 

[Dr. Righteous]

This is the bs shit that needs to stop. All car can last forever if taken car off. Toyota drivers are boring people that always keep up with the maintenance schedules and never gun it. Drive under the speed limit. I ownoed Fords, BMW, suburu and Honda's in my life. Guess which gave me the most problems. Mechanically the Suburu broke down the most. The Honda was brought new and everything in the interior kept falling off. Those were cars that I had when I was was younger. The BMW M3 I had was driven hard for 5 years and never had a issue til a asshole slammed into it and totaled it. Haven't had a issue with either the Ford fusions I had for the past 5 years.

LoL. Yeah; I always had a good laugh when people talk about how great a Subaru is. My dad and brother have owned them. Neither were very satisfied with them. The hype around them is for hipster consumption. Parts are expensive, and unless you have a specialist mechanic to take it too; forget getting it serviced correctly. The last straw for my dad was when he took his to a mechanic for the engine light being on. He got it back and though the issue was fixed. A few weeks later I was visiting and noticed all the mechanic did was put a piece of black electrical tape over the light to cover it up. Dad (being in his late 70s) never noticed. I wasn't going to say anything but he started talking about that even with the light out it still does not run right. Told him he needs to think about trading it in.

 

[Lenard]

You're the one bringing politics into it; I just noted the car costs are going up across the board, and the reason why.


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Please clarify the reason. Because I was under the impression you were blaming the current President of the United States.