Teacher’s Aide Fired For Not Handing Over Facebook Password

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You are aware, of course, that instant messengers have been around for over a decade... email has been around since the founding of the internet.

Why the hell does anyone NEED Facebook for sending quick instant messages between people?

They profile you. Anything linked to you will never die or go away.

If you aren't the customer, you are the product. Users of Facebook don't pay. They are the product being sold and tracked. It's the biggest screwjob of privacy in the history of humanity. What boggles my mind is why any person WANTS to use it.

Ten years from now, you may not want everyone to know you just went to the doctor to be sterilized right before your current wife files for divorce. But there it is, on your wall... with all your online non-friends commenting on it, with your linked location from your cellphone putting you at the doctor at that time.


Seriously, wtf?


this + 1000000000

i don't get it either bro, why everyone is so quick to pimp themselves out when it is completely unnecessary
 

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I gotta get a job soon, so if they ask me for my FB Ill tell em straight up.
I do not have FB anymore..... If they want proof I will let them come on my personal rig themselves.
 

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this + 1000000000

i don't get it either bro, why everyone is so quick to pimp themselves out when it is completely unnecessary

Who says everyone "pimps themselves out"? I've had a FB account for 3-4 years and I have NEVER posted anything on my wall. Not a single fucking word. Why? Because I'm not a fucking idiot that feels the need to tell people what I'm doing 24/7. The only stuff I see posted by the people on my contact list besides annoying game stuff are things they find important (birthdays, births, etc, etc) or weird/random/funny whatever things they've found. I follow a few companies on there too, but even they're not terribly annoying. Though I do need to do some "gardening" and weed a few out. FB is about the only way for me to keep in contact with most of my family. I don't give out my phone number or email address usually because quite frankly I'd rather spend five minutes at day, at most, on Facebook then half an hour on the phone with people that never shut up when they call.
 

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Who says everyone "pimps themselves out"? I've had a FB account for 3-4 years and I have NEVER posted anything on my wall. Not a single fucking word. Why? Because I'm not a fucking idiot that feels the need to tell people what I'm doing 24/7. The only stuff I see posted by the people on my contact list besides annoying game stuff are things they find important (birthdays, births, etc, etc) or weird/random/funny whatever things they've found. I follow a few companies on there too, but even they're not terribly annoying. Though I do need to do some "gardening" and weed a few out. FB is about the only way for me to keep in contact with most of my family. I don't give out my phone number or email address usually because quite frankly I'd rather spend five minutes at day, at most, on Facebook then half an hour on the phone with people that never shut up when they call.

because the vast majority of people on facebook do pimp themselves out. and even if you never post any real info every time you log in you get hammered with ads and bullshit. not to mention facebook seems to find a way to "accidentally" disable the privacy settings you choose every so often. convenient for the companies that are data mining it like the virtual whorehouse it is
 

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because the vast majority of people on facebook do pimp themselves out. and even if you never post any real info every time you log in you get hammered with ads and bullshit. not to mention facebook seems to find a way to "accidentally" disable the privacy settings you choose every so often. convenient for the companies that are data mining it like the virtual whorehouse it is

I don't see a single ad on Facebook, ever. It's called an adblocker and it works perfectly. I have nothing personal on my FB account for anyone to mine. There are at least a dozen (probably a lot more) other people on FB with my same first and last name. I don't even have a picture of myself uploaded. Hell I don't even have my city listed on my account. So companies mine away, I've got nothing for you to find.
 

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I don't see a single ad on Facebook, ever. It's called an adblocker and it works perfectly. I have nothing personal on my FB account for anyone to mine. There are at least a dozen (probably a lot more) other people on FB with my same first and last name. I don't even have a picture of myself uploaded. Hell I don't even have my city listed on my account. So companies mine away, I've got nothing for you to find.

This. And my profile contains some truths (like being a fan of some sports teams), but mostly lies (I am barely fluent in Spanish, French, Japanese, and Italian LOL).
 

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because the vast majority of people on facebook do pimp themselves out. and even if you never post any real info every time you log in you get hammered with ads and bullshit. not to mention facebook seems to find a way to "accidentally" disable the privacy settings you choose every so often. convenient for the companies that are data mining it like the virtual whorehouse it is

You are making way bigger a deal out of it than it really is.
 

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the vast majority of people just join and put everything on there and go on as if it's "normal"......or did you miss that part....
 

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the vast majority of people just join and put everything on there and go on as if it's "normal"......or did you miss that part....

Those people are what I'd like to call "fucking dumbasses". However just because they do does not mean everyone does nor does it mean you would have to if you had an account.
 

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I don't agree with having any personal day to day info on Facebook or any other website for companies to archive and data mine. I do not care if anyone sees what I do. I live life very freely and openly but I do not advertise my life or being. I believe in the right to maintain my own individual privacy and feel it is completely unreasonable to be expected to compromise my life in order to accommodate a bunch of people who don't care about their own privacy.

I am available nearly 24/7 by multiple phones, texting, IM, multiple emails, google+ and regular old postal service mail. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever for anyone to feel like they can only get in touch with me via Facebook. I suppose the next time one of them shows up at my door I should close it in their face and tell them they need to contact me on Google+

There are going to be huge ramifications years from now for the way the vast majority are living on Facebook and such. Their entire lives documented and photographed categorically to the minute via GPS location. It is to me one of the most appalling demonstrations of humanities inability to see the danger they put themselves in. Apathy at it's best.

What's funny is you will read that like I am some sort of anti-social anti-technology extremist who wants to suppress the progression of technology. Which is unbelievably wrong. I am connected in pretty much every other way, but selling out to Facebook (or any other social media site) is not something I will be a part of. Even passively by associating with those who do......I seriously think one day the realization of what people were doing will be as deafening as the screams of the Lemmings as they fall off the cliff they built.
 

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Lastly, assume a teacher gives up his password to his boss. Then teacher posts inappropriate things on his Facebook page to a student. Does he have plausible deniability that he posted it, since someone else on the same campus knows his password and could have done it?

Good point...You are adept at thinking like a true criminal/lawyer (interchangeable terms there).
 

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Yeah .... parents caring about their children .... Administrates in charge of safe guarding those children and acting on their behalf .... your right, nothing serious at all about that. Nothing logical about the password request. Makes zero sense.

I had you going? Hell, me thinking I could have a common sense driven conversion here, that had me going. LOL.

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I was going to post a lengthy reply on how silly your arguments are on this issue, but I see the forum in general has given you the Golden Fail award.

Enjoy.
 

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That's their contention. That everyone puts everything on all their social web sites and as such, they have a gimmie gimmie attitude. Glad to see some of you are smart enough to reject that mind-set. From the sound of it, taking into account vigor and passion alone, seems there might be a personal treasure trove of information on facebook with more than a few of us that they want to defend. I guess that's the disconnect. I don't live on Facebook, so that password debate is irrelevant to me vs doing something else with it, like maybe keeping my damn job, but that's me. You guys absolutely hit the head on the nail so to speak. My girlfriends mom lives on facebook. So does her sister and her HS friends. I can't even walk past the laptop sometimes because of the private pictures the HS girls have. I get yelled at.
 

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the vast majority of people just join and put everything on there and go on as if it's "normal"......or did you miss that part....

So since other people pimp out their accounts you don't want to create an account even there's no requirement for you to do the same? Umm, ok :p
 

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Whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty" or "pleading the 5th"?

Those are rights given to you under the court of law. You have to be accused of a crime and arrested in order for those rights to be invoked/apply to you. If this was a Judge asking for the password, you could refuse on either grounds. This was an employer asking an employee but there is a constitutional right to privacy to which the employee would be able to sue for. However, taking the "5th" or "innocent until proven guilty" does not apply in this case.

In a lot of cases, employers can fire employees for nearly any valid reason. The employer might say there was cases of repeated insubordinance and make up some fake documentation and claim that was the reason they fired him and the facebook password issue was not the aggrevating/final factor or was a minute factor. That's what a smart-school district would probably do. The burden is on the suer to prove the school district is guilty of firing him over the facebook password issue and the school district would be considered "innocent until proven guilty" and could "take the fifth".
 

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So since other people pimp out their accounts you don't want to create an account even there's no requirement for you to do the same? Umm, ok :p

i'm not creating an account because it's pointless and unnecessary and using it in the way everyone else i know uses it is against my standards. my sister wants to be able to post every hour about some mindless dribble about some dress she saw or some furniture she bought and my brother wants to use it as the only way to notify the extended family of anything going on with them.

here's the thing. nobody gives a shit about what i do day in day out. likewise i don't want to put that expectation on anyone else either. so i just don't go there. if they need me they have half a dozen ways to get in touch with me, without facebook.

that's why i won't do it. no good reason to
 

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In a lot of cases, employers can fire employees for nearly any valid reason. The employer might say there was cases of repeated insubordinance and make up some fake documentation and claim that was the reason they fired him and the facebook password issue was not the aggrevating/final factor or was a minute factor. That's what a smart-school district would probably do. The burden is on the suer to prove the school district is guilty of firing him over the facebook password issue and the school district would be considered "innocent until proven guilty" and could "take the fifth".

So smart school districts fabricate fictitious issues to help get rid of employees they don't like? Sounds criminal to me.
 

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Just another reason why I'll probably never have a Facebook account. Of course at this point many companies might think I'm lying to them about not having one or think I'm some kind of antisocial weirdo because I didn't fall into this stupid trend.

Start a facebook page and give us the password or you'e fired!
 

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AMERICA! Fuck you.


I would have read the Facebook TOS which states

8. You will not share your password, (or in the case of developers, your secret key), let anyone else access your account, or do anything else that might jeopardize the security of your account.
Case closed...NEXT!
 

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that's why i won't do it. no good reason to
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I have now been completely left out of the loop for three nieces/nephews being born because they think they should be able to post the announcement on Facebook and thats that.
Sounds like good reason to me ;)

And you keep bringing up this thing of posting every minute detail of your life and you having to read every minute detail of other peoples' lives when that's completely NOT the way it works for 95% of people as we've said multiple times. There is almost no identifying details on my facebook page, no big bad company is going to steal your data if you don't put any data on it, very few people post massive amounts on facebook. A quick count of the comments I see on facebook and over 50% of them are from just two people out of 50 friends on my list. Yes, there are facebook addicts, doesn't mean by using facebook you HAVE to be an addict or that you HAVE to read the comments of addicts, its totally your choice.

If you don't want a facebook, don't have a facebook, no skin off my back, I'm not taking issue with that at all, I'm taking issue with the silly reasoning for it and blaming other people for being impersonal when you're equally to blame for not getting on FB to see what they're up to. After all, you could just as easily have called them if you'd taken the few seconds to see what was up. I can safely say I spend less than 10 minutes a week on facebook, barring the occurances of when an international friend or family member starts a personal IM chat through it.
 

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So true Tudz.
There are people out there who don't reply to email, you can't reach them by phone, but IM them in FB and you get a reply within minutes, often within seconds.

Ha! I just thought to see if there was a Facebook Anonymous, and looky what I found:
http://faceanonymous.com/ Gotta love the ironic like button! :eek:
It says it's an experiment, but I can seriously see the need for a legit "FA" (FBA?) in the not so distant future. I wonder how they'd do it...on Google+? A mass migration back to Myspace? Sorry, just couldn't resist. :p
 

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Sounds like good reason to me ;)

If you don't want a facebook, don't have a facebook, no skin off my back, I'm not taking issue with that at all, I'm taking issue with the silly reasoning for it and blaming other people for being impersonal when you're equally to blame for not getting on FB to see what they're up to. After all, you could just as easily have called them if you'd taken the few seconds to see what was up. I can safely say I spend less than 10 minutes a week on facebook, barring the occurances of when an international friend or family member starts a personal IM chat through it.

I will never feel "to blame" for choosing to not be a member of a childish irresponsible marketing whorehouse that is Facebook. If I had no phone or email or other means of communication? Yes. Then I would feel some responsibility for being out of the loop. But as long as I have many open channels of communication that they can't be bothered to use, then the onus is on them.

Facebook is not synonymous with telephone or email. You act as if Facebook is something everyone should have, like having running water or electricity. It is a "social website" that is truly nothing more than a marketing whorehouse. The fact that my siblings are too stupid to recognize it for what it is does not make it suddenly my fault for not being a part of it.

You need to learn how to think or yourself. Stop acting like the people who choose not to be a part of the garbage society are the odd man out. If I am no different than every other stranger/acquaintance/friend/coworker on my brother's "friends" list then to be honest, I don't want to be a part of it at all. That's what I am saying. Honestly if picking up a phone to speak once a year is too much to ask, then fuck it. I am not going to join some media marketing ad social bullshit website just so that it's convenient for him to be anti-personal. I call him a few times a year, he can do the same.

That's what to me is at the root of this. It is society's acceptance of taking the personality out of communication.

When you were a child and you received a birthday card from your mother and she took the time to actually put pen to paper to write you a note, it had meaning. It had her personality and it showed a smidgen of effort on her part to take 10 seconds out of her day to write you. If she had just picked up the phone and hammered out a quick "happy birthday" on your Facebook wall and then went on about her day, that would not carry the same sentiment. There is no emotion, no feeling, and it displays a sincere lack of true interest in the subject. It's as if to say "here, you are only worth a quick post on Facebook". That's no different than if she posted a quick note that she likes peanut butter ice cream. That's whats wrong with the Twitter/Facebook communication style. It's completely impersonal and disengaged. For someone who uses it exclusively like my siblings, they put no more thought into posting how much they like a picture on the internet than they do into what should be meaningful, personal, life events. It's the de-socialization of society. I think it sucks and I won't play.
 
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Thats the smartest reply ever...NOT.

This has nothing to do with America...it's all about liberal union fags who think they own their employees.

As well, I happen to like America, maybe you should stay out of America and see how much better life is in other countries.

It's fascinating how some people can mold any and everything to fit the narrative they've created for themselves. Is there anything "liberal union fags" aren't trying to do to you?
 

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This is getting out of hand. I will never give over my facebook password to any company. I don't care if it means not having a job, I like my privacy thank you very much.

If you really liked your privacy that much you wouldn't be on Facebook in the first place.
 

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nobody_here said:
When you were a child and you received a birthday card from your mother and she took the time to actually put pen to paper to write you a note, it had meaning. It had her personality and it showed a smidgen of effort on her part to take 10 seconds out of her day to write you. If she had just picked up the phone and hammered out a quick "happy birthday" on your Facebook wall and then went on about her day, that would not carry the same sentiment. There is no emotion, no feeling, and it displays a sincere lack of true interest in the subject. It's as if to say "here, you are only worth a quick post on Facebook". That's no different than if she posted a quick note that she likes peanut butter ice cream. That's whats wrong with the Twitter/Facebook communication style. It's completely impersonal and disengaged. For someone who uses it exclusively like my siblings, they put no more thought into posting how much they like a picture on the internet than they do into what should be meaningful, personal, life events. It's the de-socialization of society. I think it sucks and I won't play.

QFT.

I had to make a damn Facebook account because I couldn't reach anyone from college without it. You don't have a FB account, you don't exist. Unfortunately that was giving me trouble, so I had to surrender, but I agree with you totally. It's like people can't socialize anymore, despite talking how much they're "social" all the time. It's automated.
 

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I will never feel "to blame" for choosing to not be a member of a childish irresponsible marketing whorehouse that is Facebook. If I had no phone or email or other means of communication? Yes. Then I would feel some responsibility for being out of the loop. But as long as I have many open channels of communication that they can't be bothered to use, then the onus is on them.

Facebook is not synonymous with telephone or email. You act as if Facebook is something everyone should have, like having running water or electricity. It is a "social website" that is truly nothing more than a marketing whorehouse. The fact that my siblings are too stupid to recognize it for what it is does not make it suddenly my fault for not being a part of it.

You need to learn how to think or yourself. Stop acting like the people who choose not to be a part of the garbage society are the odd man out. If I am no different than every other stranger/acquaintance/friend/coworker on my brother's "friends" list then to be honest, I don't want to be a part of it at all. That's what I am saying. Honestly if picking up a phone to speak once a year is too much to ask, then fuck it. I am not going to join some media marketing ad social bullshit website just so that it's convenient for him to be anti-personal. I call him a few times a year, he can do the same.

That's what to me is at the root of this. It is society's acceptance of taking the personality out of communication.

When you were a child and you received a birthday card from your mother and she took the time to actually put pen to paper to write you a note, it had meaning. It had her personality and it showed a smidgen of effort on her part to take 10 seconds out of her day to write you. If she had just picked up the phone and hammered out a quick "happy birthday" on your Facebook wall and then went on about her day, that would not carry the same sentiment. There is no emotion, no feeling, and it displays a sincere lack of true interest in the subject. It's as if to say "here, you are only worth a quick post on Facebook". That's no different than if she posted a quick note that she likes peanut butter ice cream. That's whats wrong with the Twitter/Facebook communication style. It's completely impersonal and disengaged. For someone who uses it exclusively like my siblings, they put no more thought into posting how much they like a picture on the internet than they do into what should be meaningful, personal, life events. It's the de-socialization of society. I think it sucks and I won't play.


you know back at the beginning of telephones or mail system. people were saying the thing, they should of came to my house to tell me they had a baby. why do i need a telephone or have to write a letter. Why do i need to use the norm for communications.

face it facebook is becoming the norm to keep in touch with everyone dont like it dont bitch about it.

my dad bitched about the same thing when it comes to cell phones. if they need to get ahold of me they will call the house and leave a Voice message. well guess what people just didn't call him anymore. Look who has a cell phone now.

my 70+ grandma has a facebook just so she can keep up with the family and see pictures of her great grandchildren that she would never see if she didn't have facebook because face it were too lazy to mail picture in the mail anymore.


hell i don't think ive ever seen an ad on facebook. i guess im so immune to them i never pay attention. i dont even know who advertised on the [H]. (no i dont have an ad blocker) and it takes like a few seconds to dsiable all the game crap. once i did that its been over a year + since i have had anything game related show up on my wall.
 

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Personally, if a job asked me for my facebook password, i would go, sure, i'll give you access for 1 week then due to the security hazard you created, i'm going to change it and not give it to you.

that said, i have a facebook account
i have used it 5 times in the past year
i have 1 friend on my account due to it being an author i really like and he posts excerpts of his next books ONLY on facebook and ONLY to his friends on facebook...

my wife is not friended
my stepmom
my dad
my sisters(5 of them)
etc.

my wall says

go away.
 

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Thats the smartest reply ever...NOT.

This has nothing to do with America...it's all about liberal union fags who think they own their employees.

As well, I happen to like America, maybe you should stay out of America and see how much better life is in other countries.

You are aware that the 'liberal union fags' voted for maintaining privacy and Republicans voted against... right?
 
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Sounds like good reason to me ;)

And you keep bringing up this thing of posting every minute detail of your life and you having to read every minute detail of other peoples' lives when that's completely NOT the way it works for 95% of people as we've said multiple times. There is almost no identifying details on my facebook page, no big bad company is going to steal your data if you don't put any data on it, very few people post massive amounts on facebook. A quick count of the comments I see on facebook and over 50% of them are from just two people out of 50 friends on my list. Yes, there are facebook addicts, doesn't mean by using facebook you HAVE to be an addict or that you HAVE to read the comments of addicts, its totally your choice.

If you don't want a facebook, don't have a facebook, no skin off my back, I'm not taking issue with that at all, I'm taking issue with the silly reasoning for it and blaming other people for being impersonal when you're equally to blame for not getting on FB to see what they're up to. After all, you could just as easily have called them if you'd taken the few seconds to see what was up. I can safely say I spend less than 10 minutes a week on facebook, barring the occurances of when an international friend or family member starts a personal IM chat through it.

I think the basic underlying issue that you (and Maverick96, who picked the argument) are missing is push vs. pull. Facebook is pull--"If you really love me, you'll regularly come looking to find out what's happening in my life!" E-mail, phone calls, party invitations, birth announcements, etc. are push--if I have something important that I want my friends and family to know, I take the time and trouble to LET THEM KNOW. Push is taking responsibility for your relationships. Pull is being lazy and narcissistic.

If you make the effort to inform me about the important things happening in your life, I may attend the event/send a gift/etc. Or I may not, depending on schedule conflicts, finances, etc. On the other hand, if you sit back and expect me to come to you, good luck with that.

Unless you're totally hot. But that always has a different set of rules.
 

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The burden is on the suer to prove the school district is guilty of firing him over the facebook password issue and the school district would be considered "innocent until proven guilty" and could "take the fifth".

Wrongful termination would be a civil suit. As such, there's no ability to "take the fifth." You're also not "guilty" of wrongful termination, you're found "liable" for it.
 

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here's the thing. nobody gives a shit about what i do day in day out. likewise i don't want to put that expectation on anyone else either. so i just don't go there. if they need me they have half a dozen ways to get in touch with me, without facebook.

that's why i won't do it. no good reason to

Except you are the one blaming them for not contacting you via other means. It's not them "needing" you, it's wanting stuff from them them.

And I would say the "good reason" would be to keep in touch with your family. But clearly it isn't worth it to you, so stop complaining about your family using Facebook when you won't.
 

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naw...I had one and walked away from it....no fallout at all other than strange looks when I say I don't use Facebook.....

but my entire family uses it to "communicate"

i told them to call or email, that I don't have time to hang on their every word. I have now been completely left out of the loop for three nieces/nephews being born because they think they should be able to post the announcement on Facebook and thats that. They are too lazy to pick up a phone and call. I hear about my brother having a daughter through a third party who read it on facebook......fucking twats

Right on man! I'm always thinking about how my family can't be normal because of all the BS they pull. It's nice seeing a post like this that reassures me that my family is indeed normal...just a bunch of twats! :D
 

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I think the basic underlying issue that you (and Maverick96, who picked the argument) are missing is push vs. pull. Facebook is pull--"If you really love me, you'll regularly come looking to find out what's happening in my life!" E-mail, phone calls, party invitations, birth announcements, etc. are push--if I have something important that I want my friends and family to know, I take the time and trouble to LET THEM KNOW. Push is taking responsibility for your relationships. Pull is being lazy and narcissistic.

It goes both ways. If everyone you know and love uses Facebook and that is how they choose to exchange information, then if it's important enough to you to know that stuff when it first gets out there, then I guess you should use Facebook.

I get the complaint about the brother or whoever not telling you that they had a kid, but that has zero to do with "damn Facebook" and a lot more to do with "communication between siblings is apparently not that great".

The thing is, like Tudz has pointed out, you can have a Facebook profile with literally nothing on it, unsearchable, and you don't even HAVE to use it regularly. Hell, just set up email notifications and then it'll be like you're getting all the information you want via email. It's not like using Facebook is some arduous task that invokes massive suffering. It's a goddamn free service and it's not hard to set it up to protect your information (if you even choose to put it on there in the first place, which you don't have to).
 

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Not sure how this is even permissible. So many things you can find out from Facebook that would be illegal to ask about in an interview!
 

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I think the basic underlying issue that you (and Maverick96, who picked the argument) are missing is push vs. pull. Facebook is pull--"If you really love me, you'll regularly come looking to find out what's happening in my life!" E-mail, phone calls, party invitations, birth announcements, etc. are push--if I have something important that I want my friends and family to know, I take the time and trouble to LET THEM KNOW. Push is taking responsibility for your relationships. Pull is being lazy and narcissistic.

If you make the effort to inform me about the important things happening in your life, I may attend the event/send a gift/etc. Or I may not, depending on schedule conflicts, finances, etc. On the other hand, if you sit back and expect me to come to you, good luck with that.

Unless you're totally hot. But that always has a different set of rules.


And other people would have a different application to what is "lazy and narcissistic". Your family might say that if you cared to see the pictures and/or videos of your nieces or nephews, you would go just glance at their Facebook page once a week or once a month. They may feel that the "lazy and narcissistic" thing would be to not take an interest in the lives of your family.

One of the advantages of Facebook is that you can share different details about your life and the people who care are the only people who have to take a look. You never have to feel like you are "bothering" other people with the details of your kid finally walking, or the fact that you got that promotion, or whatever. Those who care will look, and those who don't (or those who believe that they should sit back and let everyone come to them) won't look. Similar to the news. You know what's going on by paying attention and looking at what's going on.

It's speculation, but it very well could be their justification, no matter how right or wrong. It's the approach most of my family has started taking, but then again, I'm one to call my parents at least once a week to check on them, and visit on a semi-regular basis. The same can't be said for the rest of my family.
 
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It goes both ways. If everyone you know and love uses Facebook and that is how they choose to exchange information, then if it's important enough to you to know that stuff when it first gets out there, then I guess you should use Facebook.

I get the complaint about the brother or whoever not telling you that they had a kid, but that has zero to do with "damn Facebook" and a lot more to do with "communication between siblings is apparently not that great".

The thing is, like Tudz has pointed out, you can have a Facebook profile with literally nothing on it, unsearchable, and you don't even HAVE to use it regularly. Hell, just set up email notifications and then it'll be like you're getting all the information you want via email. It's not like using Facebook is some arduous task that invokes massive suffering. It's a goddamn free service and it's not hard to set it up to protect your information (if you even choose to put it on there in the first place, which you don't have to).

Glad you brought up e-mail notification, that's actually the compromise I use to solve most of the issues that Facebook brings. In the terms I was using above, it helps me convert pull back to push. But I don't have it set to include wall posts/status updates (except for posts by others to my wall). I would be flooded with spam even though I have less than 200 Friends. So if people manage their relational lives through mere status updates/self-wall-posts, it passes me by.

But all that misses the real point, which is, are you totally hot, MavericK96? Are you? (pant pant) :D:D:D
 

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If you really liked your privacy that much you wouldn't be on Facebook in the first place.

Simply don't use your real name on Facebook and put virtually no personally identifiable information on it. You can still socialize with all of your friends using their real-names, but most people are trained to use your Facebook handle so they can link you anyway.
 
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