Switches with 10 GBE Uplink

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I am looking for a Switch with a 10GBE uplink to go with a qnap TS879u with a 10 GBE card.
I need something affordable.
 
I know of nothing really that good in price, I have used the Cisco 2960G with 10Gbps uplinks
 
I just went through all of HP and Dell's offerings for this. Be very careful as both HP and Dell offer 10Gbase-T uplinks that are for switch to switch use ONLY . The dell "networking specialist" (I use this term loosely as I knew the hardware better after a few hours of research then he did) claims that only their 8000 series switch supports true 10Gbase-T ports.

HP's lowest level switch with 2 10Gbase-T ports is the 3800-24. It will run you a cool $3500.
Cisco offers the 2960-S with 2 10Gbase-T ports for $1200 (WS-C2960S-24TD-L)

I was dumbfounded when I realized how far behind 10Gbase-T is. We literally have a dozen servers with 10G cards around here and all they do is link card to card. Switches were, and still are, too expensive IMO for 10Gbase-T use even in a medium sized environment like mine.
 
The Spyder said:
I just went through all of HP and Dell's offerings for this. Be very careful as both HP and Dell offer 10Gbase-T uplinks that are for switch to switch use ONLY . The dell "networking specialist" (I use this term loosely as I knew the hardware better after a few hours of research then he did) claims that only their 8000 series switch supports true 10Gbase-T ports.
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THIS. I could not believe the lies perpetrated by switch vendors touting "2x 10GB links" only to read the specs and find out they are for switch stacking only. How lame.
10GB Ethernet access ports and cheap do not go in the same sentence.

Wrench00 said:
I am looking for a Switch with a 10GBE uplink to go with a qnap TS879u with a 10 GBE card.
I need something affordable.
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I would be very surprised if you are coming any where near tapping out a gigabit link off that NAS. I seriously doubt that device supports the IOPS to fill a gigabit pipe. A better bet would be to setup a teamed pair of nics if the device supports it and you really think you need it.

I know your Q-NAP probably does not support it but If you are in need of faster than gigabit speeds Infiniband is a MUCH cheaper way to go.
 
The QNAP supports SSD drives, so he could hit 10G and massive IOPS easily with a full SSD load-out.
 
I know that the Cisco 4948-10G and 4928-10G is a wirespeed 10gig switch, and the X2-GB-T module would provide a copper port for you, but that is a pretty expensive combination.
 
prices of 10gbe switches are still ridiculous. I just put together 10gbe setup for my storage, a switch with 4 spf+ links cost me ~$3k
 
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Affordable under 3k I can do SPF I rather have Copper tho they are going to run less then 3 feet.
 
The Spyder said:
I just went through all of HP and Dell's offerings for this. Be very careful as both HP and Dell offer 10Gbase-T uplinks that are for switch to switch use ONLY . The dell "networking specialist" (I use this term loosely as I knew the hardware better after a few hours of research then he did) claims that only their 8000 series switch supports true 10Gbase-T ports.

HP's lowest level switch with 2 10Gbase-T ports is the 3800-24. It will run you a cool $3500.
Cisco offers the 2960-S with 2 10Gbase-T ports for $1200 (WS-C2960S-24TD-L)

I was dumbfounded when I realized how far behind 10Gbase-T is. We literally have a dozen servers with 10G cards around here and all they do is link card to card. Switches were, and still are, too expensive IMO for 10Gbase-T use even in a medium sized environment like mine.
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Where did u see WS-C2960S-24TD-L for $1200? cheapest I can find them is about ~$1800
 
A Dell 6248 with the two port SPF+ card can be had for about a grand. Less if you only need 24gbe ports. And as far as I know that these are truely 10gbe as the stacking ports are a different module.

Also a Dell 5548 has two integrated 10gb SPF+ and also integrated stacking. However I DO NOT recommend these if you are trying to do anything involving vlans, trunking, stacking as the firmware is buggy.




EDIT - also not sure that nas unit can do much more than 2x1gbe speeds regardless.
 
With SSDs that NAS should push 10Gb. I have a Synology DS3611xs on the way and testing shows it maxing the two 10Gb connections for throughput with SSDs. I plan to confirm that. ;)

As for switch..nothing really "affordable" and whoever said a 4900 is crazy..that's the opposite of affordable. For my testing I'll be using some 2960S in a stack w/ 10Gb and a Nexus 5010.
 
Nacho said:
A Dell 6248 with the two port SPF+ card can be had for about a grand. Less if you only need 24gbe ports. And as far as I know that these are truely 10gbe as the stacking ports are a different module.

Also a Dell 5548 has two integrated 10gb SPF+ and also integrated stacking. However I DO NOT recommend these if you are trying to do anything involving vlans, trunking, stacking as the firmware is buggy.




EDIT - also not sure that nas unit can do much more than 2x1gbe speeds regardless.
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Looks like its the big brother to mine :)

http://www.qnap.com/pro_detail_hardware.asp?p_id=201 << his unit.
 
I think when those Intel X540's hit the shelves I may just make a new server box and stick two of those in there and set it up like a switch, not quite as full featured as a real switch or router, but probably cheaper and I can throw more VMs on it too.
 
-Dragon- said:
I think when those Intel X540's hit the shelves I may just make a new server box and stick two of those in there and set it up like a switch, not quite as full featured as a real switch or router, but probably cheaper and I can throw more VMs on it too.
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I tried to get a couple of these for point to point on our DPM servers but they stayed on backorder for like 3 weeks.
Broke down and bought the 520's for a couple hundred more just because we couldnt wait any longer.

I'll be buying those 540's by the boat load!
 
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