I keep an eye on products from both these companies, and thought I'd pass along their most recent sales. SVS SB12-NSD Sealed Sub 23-270Hz ± 3dB $599 (~14" cube. I own one. Excellent sound quality and all around performance for my small-medium room) PB12-NSD Ported 18-150 Hz ± 3 dB $599 (much larger, heavier, more output/volume for big rooms in addition to lower bass) Free shipping, 45 return policy (free return shipping). Outlaw Audio M8 Subwoofer $249. Free shipping. 29Hz-250Hz +/-3dB. No experience with it, but, for it's (sale) price and size, I've read good things over at AVSforum. There's pro reviews for these subs on the net (with CEA 2010 testing for the SVS subs listed). http://www.audioholics.com/subwoofer-reviews/sb12-nsd-subwoofer http://www.audioholics.com/subwoofer-reviews/pb12-nsd M8: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13645_3-20042164-47.html http://hometheaterreview.com/outlaw-audio-m8-powered-subwoofer-reviewed/ Enjoy the bass and have a good holiday!