Survey of 32" 1080p monitors

Amazon review on the Toshiba

- Some fuzzyness with fast moving objects, maybe due to refresh rate (5-8ms)or 10 bit panel or 12 or 14 bit processor (listed in owner's manual.
Whatever the true specs are this TV looks great either way for TV watching or used as a computer monitor.

I'm assuming he is talking about ghosting.
 
Do any of you guys know if the Toshiba can do picture in picture between different inputs? For example, could i have a full screen of my PC from an HDMI with window for digital cable over HDMI or component? I know my dell 2005 fpw can do this.
 
why do the bigger samsungs have better contrast ratio than the <37" models. 30000:1 as opposed to 15000:1. its maddening, it just makes me want to get a 40".

i guess thats what samsung is going for :p
 
So what is your guys take on the new 120hz displays? The Sony Bravia KDL-32XBR6 will have it and i'm pretty sure none of the other displays in this thread will.
 
I've seen a sony 120hz set in person and to be honest I don't like it for regular movies with people. They look too smooth, like you know how a camcorder home video is really smooth, like that. I just don't see the appeal of it.

I also don't see how it would benefit playing games since most modern games won't even give you over 60fps.
 
damonposey said:
I've seen a sony 120hz set in person and to be honest I don't like it for regular movies with people. They look too smooth, like you know how a camcorder home video is really smooth, like that. I just don't see the appeal of it.

I also don't see how it would benefit playing games since most modern games won't even give you over 60fps.
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I have another concern where the 120Hz is only for other inputs (except PC). Don't think I've seen an manufacturer actually guarantee 120Hz for PC input.
 
ive just taken a look at the Sony: KDL-32XBR6 120Hz owners manual, and it looks like it only runs at 60Hz? - at least all the HDMI inputs does - it might do some 120Hz'ing to antenna signals i dunno. Does anyone know if the panny doesnt run 100 HZ, as stated, aswell?

Hadnt seen this one "I have another concern where the 120Hz is only for other inputs (except PC). Don't think I've seen an manufacturer actually guarantee 120Hz for PC input." when I posted :)
 
Well my samsung LN46a550(30000:1 DCR, 5ms) is coming today. yep, i went insane and got the 46 instead of the 32. at $1500 after shipping I just couldn't pass it up, seeing as how I was originally going to pay around $1200 for the sharp 32".

I'll post my impressions on PC usage and PS3, blu-ray performance when I have everything set up in case anyones interested. I'm a CRT lover, so I will be very honest.
 
damonposey said:
I've seen a sony 120hz set in person and to be honest I don't like it for regular movies with people. They look too smooth, like you know how a camcorder home video is really smooth, like that. I just don't see the appeal of it.
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Agreed. While it's very interesting when you first see it, there's just something about it that you can't really place a finger on that takes away from the cinematic experience. Maybe it's just because we've been watching non-fluid motion our whole lives and that's what we're used to. Some people call it the soap opera effect... if you've seen it then you understand.
 
gtg465x said:
Agreed. While it's very interesting when you first see it, there's just something about it that you can't really place a finger on that takes away from the cinematic experience. Maybe it's just because we've been watching non-fluid motion our whole lives and that's what we're used to. Some people call it the soap opera effect... if you've seen it then you understand.
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soap opera effect, that describes it well! come to think of it though, this effect would probably be great for watching HD porn, which I think would benefit from increased fluidity(no pun intended!)
 
Icec0o1 said:
So, my 32RV530U came in the mail yesterday. Was using it at 1280 by 1024 since my dvi-hdmi cable hadn't arrived yet and I wasn't about to go to bestbuy to spend $50 on it. Received the cable today and hooked it up.
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How much did you pay for it, if you dont mind me asking?
Icec0o1 said:
I'm really close to buying the 32" toshiba. I know it's been out for about a month and the 37" for about two months but I can't find a single review whether it's positive or negative! I need one person or website to say, good tv, and I'll buy it. Did anyone pull the trigger yet?
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Will you be buying the TOSHIBA 32RV530 MSRP $999
or the TOSHIBA 32AV500U MSRP MSRP $749.99
 
I just bought the TOSHIBA REGZA 32RV530 1080p LCD from BrandsMart. MSRP was $999
they has it for sale at $849 but i got a managers special for even LOWER than that.

I will post pictures and impressions soon. Hopefully this will be better than the HANNspree 28 1080p....
 
I'm looking at the Toshiba 32RV530. I think I might be able to pull the moneys together for this one, but I would like to know how well this TV performs as far as a PS3, X360, and Blu Ray will be on this TV. I don't think I have to worry about any lag, right?
 
Its 1080p so it will be excellent for PS3 and Blu-Ray. Now as far as PC not sure yet.
I'm aboput to take mine out of the box and set it up in a few!!
 
OK i just connected it and the TEXT is FUZZY as hell!

I have a nVidia 9600GT with VISTA ultimate. and i am connecting it via a DVI to HDMI cable.

When i tried using a regular analog RGB connector it was giving me an error message"Unsupported Signal"

Any suggstions?
 
whats your resolution at? i actually thought about that and i don't think resolution matters in analog, does it?
 
w1ngzer0 said:
whats your resolution at? i actually thought about that and i don't think resolution matters in analog, does it?
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Analog at native resolution should only be slightly less sharp than DVI/HDMI...

Also, even with native resolution from your computer, make sure your TV is in a dot to dot mode (not set to a typical TV mode, which will have fuzz inducing overscan)...
 
Ordered the 32rv530 on Amazon... got it for 807.39 including shipping... price was 779. price went back up to 899 3 days later. Lucky me. Gotta see how it does when it arrives. Should arrive tomorrow or wednesday. fingers are crossed.
 
LostStorm said:
Are you sure it was wise to return it so fast, and get oversize TN panel with known issues?
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YES i was very happy with the HANNspree. The Toshiba is not a Monitor but more of a TV. I connected it via a HDMI to DVI cable and ran it at its native resolution 1080p and the text was fuzzy distorted. I played around with settings no avail.

I then tried to connect it via the standdard RGB cable and when i would reboot I would see the BIOS screen, as soon as the windows log on screen would come i could hear the welcome sound and the screen would go blank saying "UNsupported Video Singal".

I spend nearly 6 hours trying to fiddle with settings hoping i could get it right BUT no avail.
So i picked up the damn thing and returned it. BTW i got it for $824.99 from Brands Mart.

Went back to BB and picked up the HANNspree for $520. I mainly wanted to get a LCD for my PC and PS3 only and the HANNSpree does a Fine job of that!
 
finny76 said:
YES i was very happy with the HANNspree. The Toshiba is not a Monitor but more of a TV. I connected it via a HDMI to DVI cable and ran it at its native resolution 1080p and the text was fuzzy distorted. I played around with settings no avail.

I then tried to connect it via the standdard RGB cable and when i would reboot I would see the BIOS screen, as soon as the windows log on screen would come i could hear the welcome sound and the screen would go blank saying "UNsupported Video Singal".

I spend nearly 6 hours trying to fiddle with settings hoping i could get it right BUT no avail.
So i picked up the damn thing and returned it. BTW i got it for $824.99 from Brands Mart.

Went back to BB and picked up the HANNspree for $520. I mainly wanted to get a LCD for my PC and PS3 only and the HANNSpree does a Fine job of that!
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LCD TVs, some of them anyway, can make great computer monitors. But it can take more time to get them properly set up compared to a regular computer monitor. One TV I tried wasn't truly locked on to my computer's signal until I updated its firmware...

Most TVs include overscan in their displayed picture to eliminate artifacts on the edges of the TV signal. As a consequence, the 1080P signal is not precisely mapped to the display's pixels, causing some blur. However, many TVs have a mode that will map a 1080P signal one to one against the pixels. They may call this "just scan" or "dot to dot" or what have you. You need this to display a clear computer image.
 
Sorry to hear , you had so much trouble with Toshiba. As long as you are happy with Hann, that what counts.
 
SH1 said:
Most TVs include overscan in their displayed picture to eliminate artifacts on the edges of the TV signal. As a consequence, the 1080P signal is not precisely mapped to the display's pixels, causing some blur. However, many TVs have a mode that will map a 1080P signal one to one against the pixels. They may call this "just scan" or "dot to dot" or what have you. You need this to display a clear computer image.
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I'm running into this problem. I'm trying to replace my current 37" 1080p. I took my computer to bestbuy and hooked up to the Toshiba's, Samsung's and the Sharp's and they all suffer from this problem. The only sets that give me a perfect clear sharp 1:1 pixel mapped 1920x1080 resolution is my current set and my friends 42" Westinghouse. This is using HDMI to DVI hookup. I'm starting to think people have a different idea of what is "sharp" then I do because I would never use any of the sets I tried at bestbuy as a monitor since all of them displayed a slightly fuzzy picture. It seems to me like all the new sets are scaling on the HDMI interface. I never tried the 32" Sharp but I don't see how it could be any different then the 37". Personally I don't want to go lower then 37", it's perfect for me at 3 to 3.5 feet.
 
paranoyd said:
I'm running into this problem. I'm trying to replace my current 37" 1080p. I took my computer to bestbuy and hooked up to the Toshiba's, Samsung's and the Sharp's and they all suffer from this problem. The only sets that give me a perfect clear sharp 1:1 pixel mapped 1920x1080 resolution is my current set and my friends 42" Westinghouse. This is using HDMI to DVI hookup. I'm starting to think people have a different idea of what is "sharp" then I do because I would never use any of the sets I tried at bestbuy as a monitor since all of them displayed a slightly fuzzy picture. It seems to me like all the new sets are scaling on the HDMI interface. I never tried the 32" Sharp but I don't see how it could be any different then the 37". Personally I don't want to go lower then 37", it's perfect for me at 3 to 3.5 feet... although I wouldn't go higher then that.
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My Samsung, 4065F, has a PC Mode, that maps 1:1. It will also map 1:1 in TV mode with "just scan" selected...

Sharp has something similar with its "dot to dot" mode...

(However, the Sharp will not be quite as clear, because unlike the Samsung, it uses a non-traditional pixel layout...)

One also has to confirm the computer signal is correct against the TV's manual. (I found with the 4065F, the display and my nvidia card agreed on their 1080P signal from the start. A 4071F model, needed a slight tweak...)
 
CNET often includes a mention of a display's worthiness for computer use.

(A correct result will indeed be sharp, just like on a computer monitor, though with bigger pixels...)
 
This is what it says on Samsung's website:

"What makes a stunning picture? Try FULL HD 1080p LCD sharpness plus SAMSUNG's unique Super-Clear panel with an anti-reflective coating to eliminate glare. With breathtaking colour and a 50,000:1 Contrast Ratio for unparalleled clarity and crispness, the 6 Series is a true Home Theatre experience."

Newegg says only 15k. Also features listed on Samsung's site not on newegg are:

"With SAMSUNG's patented AutoMotionPlus 120 Hz processing you'll catch all the action on LCD with almost no blur and superb, clear scrolling text. With SAMSUNG's advanced Game Mode technology your video gaming experience will be exhilarating."
 
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