Supreme Commander II to be for PC and XBOX360

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  1. Blackstone

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  2. MavericK

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    I will never understand putting an RTS on a console. :rolleyes:
     
  3. dj_2004

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    Somewhat expected after Taylor commented how he thought the PC version didn't sell well. Supreme Commander was ported to the Xbox 360, too.

    But yes, RTS games don't belong on a console unless that console can utilize a keyboard & mouse, IMO. I just hope the game isn't dumbed down, though the news I posted earlier this month is suggesting otherwise. :(

    Here's the trailer: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-supreme-commander/49800 (It actually looks quite cool.)
     
  4. sirmonkey1985

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    its THQ.. when have they dumbed down anything with supcom.. the first one was bad ass.. the expansion was even more bad ass not to mention fixed all the issues with the first one.. luckly THQ does everything the correct way.. makes the PC version.. then ports the PC version to console.. which is why you see this one going to the 360 and not the ps3 right away.... takes 10 times longer to port a pc game to the ps3 then it does to the 360 since microsnot provided gaming developers with all the tools required to port games to the 360..
     
  5. Ihaveworms

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    Oh man.... I can just smell the oder of dubbed down RTS that I have been looking forward to from a mile away.
     
  6. dj_2004

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    1) THQ was the publisher for the first Supreme Commander. THQ is one of the reasons that there haven't been any patches in over a year - no money = no patches.
    2) GPG has expressed their dislike for THQ in the past years (mainly because of THQ rushing GPG to get the game(s) out). This is why Demigod was published by Stardock and Square Enix is publishing Supreme Commander 2.
    3) Since when did I state that Supreme Commander 1 was dumbed down? I stated that the news I recently posted is suggesting that Supreme Commander 2 might be compared to its predecessor. I agree, Supreme Commander and FA are awesome games and I have yet to say anything bad about them.
    4) Supreme Commander 2 is not a port to the Xbox 360 or PC. As stated by the OP, it is being co-developed. What works on the PC usually doesn't work well on the Xbox 360 and vice versa. Sounds like the method used to develop Bioshock.

    I'm simply hoping that by having it co-developed doesn't lead to an oversimplified RTS game. What made Supreme Commander great (and TA) was the complexity and large battles, IMO.
     
  7. necrophile

    necrophile [H]ard|Gawd

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    Can an xbox handle supreme commander?

    God knows it brings far more powerful pc's to their knees so how can a puny console handle it?
     
  8. Jr. Woodchuck

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    When a develop makes a game for a particular console they only need to program for that specific hardware. Where as with a PC there are thousands of hardware configurations. This is why consoles don't get dated as quickly as PC's.

    Regardless a PC looks better, just not as good if you compared it to a PC at the same time as the console came out. I'm sure the 360 can handle it, otherwise why develop for it?
     
  9. Monkey God

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    I love me some SupCom. But if its going to be developed with porting in mind, ill check a demo before buying.
     
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    The reason they may develop for it must be economical. Whilst supreme commander is already multi-threaded it could only work on a console with scaled down battles unless they managed to optimise very well.

    I just do not see how you can have the same scale of battles on such limited hardware, hell at least on the pc, the game can use 1-2GB's+ of ram alone which i believe is more than the total the xbox has.
     
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    Why are they even making a 360 version, when the first one only sold 10k on the 360. Are they massively dumbing it down, or where they bullied by MS into making a 360 version?
     
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    Supcom + Quadcore = Cake walk.

    Supcom + Tripcore PPC BUILT for gaming = Cake walk and a half

    ^_^

    Can't wait. Had a blast with the first one. Nothing like watching ridiculous amounts of bombers rain death upon a commander <3
     
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    Ha, ha, silly 0mega.

    (If you weren't joking pass it off as if you were)
     
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    This is a cpu intensive engine...why didnt they go with ps3 instead of xbox360? Didn't want to take the time to learn cell processors?
     
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    Who cares? RTS on console = fail!
     
  17. ilkhan

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    http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-supreme-commander/49800
    First trailer in case you haven't seen it.

    My only question is: does [the engine] really utilize >2 cores, as SupCom was 2 cores and a little on 3. I really hope this one will use as many cores as you have. Physics should be threaded (and on the GPU), each AI should be separate, etc. I wanna bring a gulftown (or beckton) to it's knees. :)
     
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    Not sure why this should be surprising to anyone. The first SupCom was on both platforms as well.
     
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    I find it almost comical now, how the PS3 always gets shafted.

    Oh well I might be getting it for PC while I dig a grave for my rotting PS3.
     
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    Meh! Hopefully they will hire a AI programming this time around instead of waiting on the mod community to fix all their issues. Also optimize it a bit more because the crazy large battles are were it is at! I just hope they do not use the same netcode that demigod got.. jeesh what a stupid plan.
     
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    chris taylor has already stated the game is going to be dumb down specifically the economy.

    The is game is going to suck, because the xbox360 is so inferior. no amount of optimiising is going to help, no amount of training can make michael jackson in micheal jordan.
     
  22. 123Lanoix

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    i love sup com and forged alliance but i will not buy this crap !!!
     
  23. Mr. Stryker

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    I think it's a bit early to make assumptions and bash something that hasn't come out yet.
     
  24. lewchenko

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    I see the usual idiots are out in force already... stating they wont buy 'this crap' etc etc. (123Lanoix for example)


    Yawn... bunch of dicks.


    Atleast wait until you actually see the game/play the demo before making a judgment call like that.

    From what I understand, the game will still feature huge battles with enhanced strategic zoom, more diverse maps (eg city maps) and better control of the units in play with a Square Enix supported storyline (so the new US version of PC Gamer's interview with Chris Taylor states)..... the only simplification will be the economy, which may turn out to be a good thing if it makes the game more fun to play.

    Guess we will have to wait and see to find out.
     
  25. BladeVenom

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    And it was a horrible horrible failure on the 360 in almost every regard.
     
  26. Ripskin

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    I look forward to it like I did the first one. However as with the first I play demo's before I buy.

    I really enjoy the first one, never played the expansion and dont play online much due to needing to pause games for a day or two before I can finish.

    Its WAY to soon to know that this will suck. Might as well say your unborn child will be a moron.... Only time will tell.
     
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    360 version of SupCom was really bad in terms of performance. Really bad all around, actually.
     
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    the xbox360 has neither the cpu processing power or nor enough memory to makes this any good (good being defined as a bigger/better supcom)
     
  29. tacosareveryyummy

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    I hope we have the option of multiplayer. PC vs xbox would be epic.
     
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    I hope the game has online saves.
     
  31. LuminaryJanitor

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    Heh. Not much fun for the console players, though :D
     
  32. Blackstone

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    No actually finding out it is coming out on XBOX is a lot like having an ultrasound of your unborn child and seeing it has no fingers or toes.
     
  33. Blackstone

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    Actually after reading those scans posted above it sounds pretty cool. He is using the word "spectacular" to describe the visual change and that is a bold statement considering how good the first one looked. I sort of have faith in them I suppose.