Grebuloner
2[H]4U
- Joined
- Jul 31, 2009
- Messages
- 2,480
Your username is very (not coincidentally?) appropriate, hereIt is though.
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
Your username is very (not coincidentally?) appropriate, hereIt is though.
No I'm not still charging to much for the motherboards because mine aren't used and those probably are plus those aren't even the same X9DAI-O motherboard as I pointed out, but you can't read.
The irony is the hot swap chassis and power supplies are probably the only things worth any real money. If you were local to me I'd probably give you a few bucks for them. Those super micro cases make great foundations for a NAS.Okay whatever Priller and how much would you like to pay for my server with all it's parts, the extra chassis with dual 700 watt power supplies plus hot swap bays, and the extra motherboard plus all the boxes for everything included?
Then the answer is definitely no because I'm not going to pay you to get rid or recycle this hardware for me when the only problem everyone has with it in this thread is that the motherboard, the processors, and the heatsinks with fans are or are for the Intel 2011v2 processor.You misunderstood me. You pay me $200 and cover shipping, I recycle the junk for you.
Then the answer is definitely no because I'm not going to pay you to get rid or recycle this hardware for me when the only problem everyone has with it in this thread is that the motherboard, the processors, and the heatsinks with fans are or are for the Intel 2011v2 processor.
The terms of the deal have changed. Maybe you can call junkluggers if you don't want to pay me. I guarantee it'll cost just as much or more!Gas prices are going up! I will take and dispose of your garbage for a fee of $300. You must ship by tomorrow morning or this offer is void as the county dump is 30 miles from me and it's not getting any cheaper to drive.![]()
This build is a piece of junk because it doesn't include 700 redundant power supplies, hotswap bays for SATA or SAS, It only has 32 GB of non-ECC memory instead of 64 GB of ECC memory, a 500 GB SSD Is pothetic in terms of storage capacity, and at $120 for the motherboard you're most likely buying used junk. By the way I can't wait for the police to break in your door and smash this piece of crap build and don't try to say you can't wait for them to do that to me because I was in Security and Law Enforcement in the military. I don't care if sold an entire car for as much as what I asking for my server with an extra chassis and extra motherboard either because it just show how much of a piece of crap your civic was considering good server hardware can be worth around $10,000 or more too.I stumbled across my budget sheet for a ground up IVY that I did in March 2021. OP maybe think, at that point I was a possible customer, most of the below came from ebay.
Can't wait for you to tell me how yours is $2400 better. I sold a whole damn car in April of 2021 for that, a 2008 base Civic with no AC and 175,000 miles but it ran.
Type Part (link) Cost Case Phanteks Enthoo Pro 102 $100 Motherboard X9DRi-LN4F+ $120 CPU Dual E5-2630 V2 incl w/ MB $0 RAM 4 x Samsung PC3-8500R 8GB $66 CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black 525 $32.00 PSU EVGA 600 White B $45 Storage (SAS/SATA) LSI 9207-8i SAS2 $50 SAS CABLES SFF-8087 to SFF-8042 cable $15 SATA Cable 6 Pack SATA cable 1.0k $8.00 Fans Be quiet! Silent Wings x2 $25 Thermal Paste Gelid GC Extreme 29 $10 SSD SK Hynix 500GB 57 PSU Splitter 8Pin EPS Splitter 16 SATA Power 2 pk SATA power Splitter 13 Hard Drives 4x ST3000NM0023 SEAGATE 3TB SAS 106 Flash Drive SanDisk Cruzer Fit USB 32GB Flash Drive (SDCZ33-032G-A11) 8 $671
Settle down. No one knows what you're talking about.This build is a piece of junk because it doesn't include 700 redundant power supplies, hotswap bays for SATA or SAS, It only has 32 GB of non-ECC memory instead of 64 GB of ECC memory, a 500 GB SSD Is pothetic in terms of storage capacity, and at $120 for the motherboard you're most likely buying used junk. By the way I can't wait for the police to break in your door and smash this piece of crap build and don't try to say you can't wait for them to do that to me because I was in Security and Law Enforcement in the military.
Yes, but not yours.good server hardware can be worth around $10,000 or more
No you didn't because a brand new Quadro P400 with only 2GB of video memory goes for $137 new on newegg here and I have a Quadro K620 with 2GB of video memory: PNY Quadro P400 VCQP400V2-PB 2GB 64-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 Low Profile Workstation Video Card. Also a QuadroI'll just leave this here because this now two year old thread is seriously value added entertainment and I can't look away:
View attachment 522839
Also a quick note for OP, I just picked up a new in box Quadro K620 2GB for $35 shipped to my door.......and I probably paid too much for it!
I'm not asking $10,000 or more for what I'm selling now am I.Yes, but not yours.
You may as well be, for the sense your asking price makes.I'm not asking $10,000 or more for what I'm selling now am I.
This build is a piece of junk because it doesn't include 700 redundant power supplies, hotswap bays for SATA or SAS, It only has 32 GB of non-ECC memory instead of 64 GB of ECC memory, a 500 GB SSD Is pothetic in terms of storage capacity, and at $120 for the motherboard you're most likely buying used junk. By the way I can't wait for the police to break in your door and smash this piece of crap build and don't try to say you can't wait for them to do that to me because I was in Security and Law Enforcement in the military. I don't care if sold an entire car for as much as what I asking for my server with an extra chassis and extra motherboard either because it just show how much of a piece of crap your civic was considering good server hardware can be worth around $10,000 or more too.
Used doesn't matter on a server motherboard. No one in the home market is buying gray market boards at full price. Why bother? It's not like a car that only has so many miles - there's a "time from release" lifespan where it has value, and then it no longer is worth anything.No I'm not still charging to much for the motherboards because mine aren't used and those probably are plus those aren't even the same X9DAI-O motherboard as I pointed out, but you can't read.
Yup. I've got two of them sitting around here. Branded by the OEM that built them into appliances.The irony is the hot swap chassis and power supplies are probably the only things worth any real money. If you were local to me I'd probably give you a few bucks for them. Those super micro cases make great foundations for a NAS.
It's a HOME system? Who cares?This build is a piece of junk because it doesn't include 700 redundant power supplies,
If you really want a bay, you can ~buy~ them on Amazon - they're pretty cheap. I use the 8x2.5" -> 1x 5.25 for SSDs, or the 4x 2.5" -> 5.25" for normal drives. Since I'm moving to almost all flash these days, I'll generally take the 8x and feed it to a decent SAS controller.hotswap bays for SATA or SAS,
So $20. Who cares? That's an insignificant amount of RAM anyway.It only has 32 GB of non-ECC memory instead of 64 GB of ECC memory
But it's usable. And it's a boot drive - who cares?, a 500 GB SSD Is pothetic in terms of storage capacity
Of course he is. They're ALL used junk. Even brand new in box it's junk - it's ANCIENT., and at $120 for the motherboard you're most likely buying used junk.
Good server hardware can be. Yours isn't good server hardware - it's OLD server hardware.By the way I can't wait for the police to break in your door and smash this piece of crap build and don't try to say you can't wait for them to do that to me because I was in Security and Law Enforcement in the military. I don't care if sold an entire car for as much as what I asking for my server with an extra chassis and extra motherboard either because it just show how much of a piece of crap your civic was considering good server hardware can be worth around $10,000 or more too.
You also don't understand how Supermicro works - the X9DAI-O is the same damned thing as the X9DAI, just an OEM installed board into their chassis.No I'm not still charging to much for the motherboards because mine aren't used and those probably are plus those aren't even the same X9DAI-O motherboard as I pointed out, but you can't read.
This is what I want to know. The anticipation is killing me! I want to know what the hell kydsid did!!!!Exactly why would the police break down my door and smash my server. Inquiring minds and all.
I like that his board is in their ARCHIVED area hahahahahaYou also don't understand how Supermicro works - the X9DAI-O is the same damned thing as the X9DAI, just an OEM installed board into their chassis.
View attachment 522908
Supermicro doesn't even call it out as a separate model.
https://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/archive/?mlg=0
Yeah but you can buy this kit from scharfshutze009 for $3000 then throw away everything except the chassis and PSUs and put in new motherboard, CPU(s), RAM, ethernet (if needed), GPU (if needed) and be set! Total, you're out like, $4500. Best deal of the century right here.I like that his board is in their ARCHIVED area hahahahaha
Everything pre scalable is now. It actually helps. Their site was getting cluttered as hell. Sad part is they disabled Google indexing of the archive. Makes life annoying.I like that his board is in their ARCHIVED area hahahahaha
It's simple a brand new 4 cylinder car with about a 1.7 Liter or 2.0 Liter engine goes for around $30,000, so a honda civic for around $3661.41 the price I'm asking for my server is junk. Who cares if it runs because the question is for how much longer will it run for. My server is not used and is like a 2018 car with the same engine and parts as a 2013 model, but has been sitting on the lot or in the show room because it won't sell and you people are like buyers expecting a car like a european car that 4 cylinder to have a V8. However, since the car doesn't have a V8 instead of 4 cylinder you won't buy it. My server at $3661.41 is a good deal considering it would cost you around $10,000 or more to get a fully configured Intel 2011v2 system from Dell previously and now it costs around $10,000 or more to get a fully configured Intel Xeon Scalable system from Dell.You may as well be, for the sense your asking price makes.
No I'm not pay you $300 or any amount to dispose of my server and extra motherboard and extra chassis.Gas prices are going up! I will take and dispose of your garbage for a fee of $300. You must ship by tomorrow morning or this offer is void as the county dump is 30 miles from me and it's not getting any cheaper to drive.![]()
I'll let lopoetve put a nice vinaigrette on that word salad, but while you're waiting, I think you would benefit from a few basic YouTube seminars on cloud storage and economic depreciation of assets.It's simple a brand new 4 cylinder car with about a 1.7 Liter or 2.0 Liter engine goes for around $30,000, so a honda civic for around $3661.41 the price I'm asking for my server is junk. Who cares if it runs because the question is for how much longer will it run for. My server is not used and is like a 2018 car with the same engine and parts as a 2013 model, but has been sitting on the lot or in the show room because it won't sell and you people are like buyers expecting a car like a european car that 4 cylinder to have a V8. However, since the car doesn't have a V8 instead of 4 cylinder you won't buy it. My server at $3661.41 is a good deal considering it would cost you around $10,000 or more to get a fully configured Intel 2011v2 system from Dell previously and now it costs around $10,000 or more to get a fully configured Intel Xeon Scalable system from Dell.
All of you have yet to show me a better price on an Intel 2011v2 system with the same redundant 700 watt power supplies, 8 hotswap bays for SATA or SAS, a blue-ray drive, a RAID Card, and a chassis that is at least 2U instead of 1U as well as everything else I'm offering because you don't use RAID, you don't use optical, and you insist on having NVMe when the Intel Xeon Scalable motherboard from Supermicro the X11DAI still supports SATA and SAS. Heck the newest Comptia Server+ exam the SKO-004 still covers SATA and SAS, but it says that SSD and NVMe are replacing these. you don't even need the cloud or virtualization because all it does is tie a user account down to virtual machine so that it does less damage to the system if it becomes compromised when you could still do the same thing with just user accounts. Who cares about cloud storage too because it costs about $10.63 from google for google drive or $9.99 from Apple for Apple icloud for 2 TB of cloud storage and it's difficult to recover files from after a computer goes down because of corruption. Cloud is more difficult for them to back up too because I've lost entire saved games due to the cloud being a virtual machine like Batman Arkam Asylum, Batman Arkam City, and Just Cause 2.
It's simple a brand new 4 cylinder car with about a 1.7 Liter or 2.0 Liter engine goes for around $30,000, so a honda civic for around $3661.41 the price I'm asking for my server is junk. Who cares if it runs because the question is for how much longer will it run for. My server is not used and is like a 2018 car with the same engine and parts as a 2013 model, but has been sitting on the lot or in the show room because it won't sell and you people are like buyers expecting a car like a european car that 4 cylinder to have a V8. However, since the car doesn't have a V8 instead of 4 cylinder you won't buy it. My server at $3661.41 is a good deal considering it would cost you around $10,000 or more to get a fully configured Intel 2011v2 system from Dell previously and now it costs around $10,000 or more to get a fully configured Intel Xeon Scalable system from Dell.
Better metaphor - you're selling a horse. It's 2022. No one uses horses for transportation anymore except some oddball folk as a hobby, or ranchers - and you're not listing your horse to ranchers. A rancher might need a horse (your server from 2011), but almost everyone else wants a car - and is looking at flying cars and the elimination of roads.It's simple a brand new 4 cylinder car with about a 1.7 Liter or 2.0 Liter engine goes for around $30,000, so a honda civic for around $3661.41 the price I'm asking for my server is junk. Who cares if it runs because the question is for how much longer will it run for. My server is not used and is like a 2018 car with the same engine and parts as a 2013 model, but has been sitting on the lot or in the show room because it won't sell and you people are like buyers expecting a car like a european car that 4 cylinder to have a V8.'
Except even if that were true, the Scalable system at $3600 is going to run RINGS around your server. Without even blinking. A Dell outlet server will run rings around it and have a warranty.However, since the car doesn't have a V8 instead of 4 cylinder you won't buy it. My server at $3661.41 is a good deal considering it would cost you around $10,000 or more to get a fully configured Intel 2011v2 system from Dell previously and now it costs around $10,000 or more to get a fully configured Intel Xeon Scalable system from Dell.
We've done this several times. No one builds V2 systems, but we've shown you more modern ones for less.All of you have yet to show me a better price on an Intel 2011v2 system with the same redundant 700 watt power supplies, 8 hotswap bays for SATA or SAS, a blue-ray drive, a RAID Card, and a chassis that is at least 2U instead of 1U
Because it's 2022. No one wants old tech that isn't valid anymore. Useful life of hardware is tied to the advancement of the industry and TIME, not usage. it's been a decade since this hardware came out - it's too old.as well as everything else I'm offering because you don't use RAID, you don't use optical, and you insist on having NVMe when the Intel Xeon Scalable motherboard from Supermicro the X11DAI still supports SATA and SAS.
Yup. I didn't even SELL systems with SAS anymore - and hadn't for the last couple of years.Heck the newest Comptia Server+ exam the SKO-004 still covers SATA and SAS, but it says that SSD and NVMe are replacing these.
... You have absolutely NO idea what you're talking about here. 100% totally wrong in every single possible way. User accounts are not security, virtualization is not security focused, user accounts are not "tied" to a virtual machine any more than they're tied to a physical machine, and there are THOUSANDS of reasons to run VMs, LXC, containers, or cloud workloads. This is 2022. If you're running bare metal (and it isn't, at the extreme end, a low power router or a NAS) you're doing something seriously wrong these days (workstations and gaming boxes excepted, of course). Even if you're running a type-2 hypervisor, you're still running VMs.you don't even need the cloud or virtualization because all it does is tie a user account down to virtual machine so that it does less damage to the system if it becomes compromised when you could still do the same thing with just user accounts.
AWS Glacier costs less than a penny per GB. AWS S3 costs about a penny per GB. Azure Blobstore is about the same. No idea on google's object storage costs, but they're in-line with those.Who cares about cloud storage too because it costs about $10.63 from google for google drive or $9.99 from Apple for Apple icloud for 2 TB of cloud storage
... No? Bitching that Steam Cloud Saves are buggy and thus the cloud is buggy is not a valid analogy. Also facetious - billions of dollars a year go into those services for good reason. As for recovery - uh, no? Lots of backup software that works natively with those now. Heck, I now WORK for one of those companies.and it's difficult to recover files from after a computer goes down because of corruption. Cloud is more difficult for them to back up too because I've lost entire saved games due to the cloud being a virtual machine like Batman Arkam Asylum, Batman Arkam City, and Just Cause 2.
Don't even waste your time man. Something something chess with a pigeon....Better metaphor - you're selling a horse. It's 2022. No one uses horses for transportation anymore except some oddball folk as a hobby, or ranchers - and you're not listing your horse to ranchers. A rancher might need a horse (your server from 2011), but almost everyone else wants a car - and is looking at flying cars and the elimination of roads.
Your hardware, used or not, is too old to be useful to almost anyone anymore.
Except even if that were true, the Scalable system at $3600 is going to run RINGS around your server. Without even blinking. A Dell outlet server will run rings around it and have a warranty.
More importantly, for $3600 I can get systems that will blow yours out of the water without even blinking, because it's OLD. Too old to do anything useful.
We've done this several times. No one builds V2 systems, but we've shown you more modern ones for less.
Because it's 2022. No one wants old tech that isn't valid anymore. Useful life of hardware is tied to the advancement of the industry and TIME, not usage. it's been a decade since this hardware came out - it's too old.
Yup. I didn't even SELL systems with SAS anymore - and hadn't for the last couple of years.
... You have absolutely NO idea what you're talking about here. 100% totally wrong in every single possible way. User accounts are not security, virtualization is not security focused, user accounts are not "tied" to a virtual machine any more than they're tied to a physical machine, and there are THOUSANDS of reasons to run VMs, LXC, containers, or cloud workloads. This is 2022. If you're running bare metal (and it isn't, at the extreme end, a low power router or a NAS) you're doing something seriously wrong these days (workstations and gaming boxes excepted, of course). Even if you're running a type-2 hypervisor, you're still running VMs.
AWS Glacier costs less than a penny per GB. AWS S3 costs about a penny per GB. Azure Blobstore is about the same. No idea on google's object storage costs, but they're in-line with those.
To writ, as per (https://aws.amazon.com/s3/pricing/?p=pm&c=s3&z=4 - 10/31/2022) -
View attachment 523018
... No? Bitching that Steam Cloud Saves are buggy and thus the cloud is buggy is not a valid analogy. Also facetious - billions of dollars a year go into those services for good reason. As for recovery - uh, no? Lots of backup software that works natively with those now. Heck, I now WORK for one of those companies.
We could barter perhaps? Help me help you...No I'm not pay you $300 or any amount to dispose of my server and extra motherboard and extra chassis.
It's not OEM because it didn't come with the chassis and it should mean something because I only got one SATA/SAS connector on the motherboard and there was a spot to solder in a second mini-SAS connector that I said was a SATA/SAS connector. Plus I've seen different versions of the X9DAI other than the X9DAI-O.You also don't understand how Supermicro works - the X9DAI-O is the same damned thing as the X9DAI, just an OEM installed board into their chassis.
View attachment 522908
Supermicro doesn't even call it out as a separate model.
https://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/archive/?mlg=0
Those are terrible rates for cloud storage because for 50 TB that $1150 a month and I can get 30 TB or more from Google for $149.99 plus tax a month here:Better metaphor - you're selling a horse. It's 2022. No one uses horses for transportation anymore except some oddball folk as a hobby, or ranchers - and you're not listing your horse to ranchers. A rancher might need a horse (your server from 2011), but almost everyone else wants a car - and is looking at flying cars and the elimination of roads.
Your hardware, used or not, is too old to be useful to almost anyone anymore.
Except even if that were true, the Scalable system at $3600 is going to run RINGS around your server. Without even blinking. A Dell outlet server will run rings around it and have a warranty.
More importantly, for $3600 I can get systems that will blow yours out of the water without even blinking, because it's OLD. Too old to do anything useful.
We've done this several times. No one builds V2 systems, but we've shown you more modern ones for less.
Because it's 2022. No one wants old tech that isn't valid anymore. Useful life of hardware is tied to the advancement of the industry and TIME, not usage. it's been a decade since this hardware came out - it's too old.
Yup. I didn't even SELL systems with SAS anymore - and hadn't for the last couple of years.
... You have absolutely NO idea what you're talking about here. 100% totally wrong in every single possible way. User accounts are not security, virtualization is not security focused, user accounts are not "tied" to a virtual machine any more than they're tied to a physical machine, and there are THOUSANDS of reasons to run VMs, LXC, containers, or cloud workloads. This is 2022. If you're running bare metal (and it isn't, at the extreme end, a low power router or a NAS) you're doing something seriously wrong these days (workstations and gaming boxes excepted, of course). Even if you're running a type-2 hypervisor, you're still running VMs.
AWS Glacier costs less than a penny per GB. AWS S3 costs about a penny per GB. Azure Blobstore is about the same. No idea on google's object storage costs, but they're in-line with those.
To writ, as per (https://aws.amazon.com/s3/pricing/?p=pm&c=s3&z=4 - 10/31/2022) -
View attachment 523018
... No? Bitching that Steam Cloud Saves are buggy and thus the cloud is buggy is not a valid analogy. Also facetious - billions of dollars a year go into those services for good reason. As for recovery - uh, no? Lots of backup software that works natively with those now. Heck, I now WORK for one of those companies.
It's not OEM because it didn't come with the chassis and it should mean something because I only got one SATA/SAS connector on the motherboard. Plus I've seen different versions of the X9DAI other than the X9DAI-O.
None of those features make a damn bit of difference in a home environment. You have no SSD in your server and everyone who knows anything about computers on Earth knows you want to install your OS to the SSD and not some mechanical dinosaur. And your server is USED. It's not new in the box and even if it were, it doesn't matter given how old all the technology is.This build is a piece of junk because it doesn't include 700 redundant power supplies, hotswap bays for SATA or SAS, It only has 32 GB of non-ECC memory instead of 64 GB of ECC memory, a 500 GB SSD Is pothetic in terms of storage capacity, and at $120 for the motherboard you're most likely buying used junk.
Why would the police break in his door and smash his computer? If you knew jack shit about law enforcement (which you obviously don't), you'd know that if they had some cause to break into his house any computer equipment would be confiscated as evidence. They'd clone all his drives and comb through the data to make sure that there was no incriminating evidence on them proving his guilt for whatever crime they came to arrest him for. Also, I have serious doubts about the last part of this statement. If this statement is true, what military failed to train you so badly?By the way I can't wait for the police to break in your door and smash this piece of crap build and don't try to say you can't wait for them to do that to me because I was in Security and Law Enforcement in the military.
Actually, even if a car isn't worth much its still worth something regardless of how old it is so long as it runs. Computer equipment isn't like that. At some point, that hardware is so old that its no longer fast enough to perform basic tasks. That's where your server is. Good hardware can be worth 10's of thousands of dollars and more. That's irrelevant because we are talking about what you are selling which is barely worth what it would cost to ship it anywhere in the US.I don't care if sold an entire car for as much as what I asking for my server with an extra chassis and extra motherboard either because it just show how much of a piece of crap your civic was considering good server hardware can be worth around $10,000 or more too.
A used Honda Civic for $3,661.41 that runs is infinitely more useful and more valuable than what you are selling.It's simple a brand new 4 cylinder car with about a 1.7 Liter or 2.0 Liter engine goes for around $30,000, so a honda civic for around $3661.41 the price I'm asking for my server is junk. Who cares if it runs because the question is for how much longer will it run for. My server is not used and is like a 2018 car with the same engine and parts as a 2013 model, but has been sitting on the lot or in the show room because it won't sell and you people are like buyers expecting a car like a european car that 4 cylinder to have a V8. However, since the car doesn't have a V8 instead of 4 cylinder you won't buy it.
We have shown you far better prices on better systems. You just refuse to recognize these facts and choose to focus on features that are not desirable or even in use by most people or businesses anymore. This is called cognitive dissonance. No one needs a Blu-Ray drive. RAID isn't generally used that much in home systems. It has its use in enterprise environments of specific sizes and use cases, but that doesn't have any bearing on what someone on this forum would need. Yes, we insist on NVMe storage because its what people use for a number of reasons. Even if you only used it for your OS, it makes a huge difference in how responsive the system is. Yes, SATA and SAS are supported for bulk storage when SAN is cost prohibitive, but these are legacy technologies.My server at $3661.41 is a good deal considering it would cost you around $10,000 or more to get a fully configured Intel 2011v2 system from Dell previously and now it costs around $10,000 or more to get a fully configured Intel Xeon Scalable system from Dell.
All of you have yet to show me a better price on an Intel 2011v2 system with the same redundant 700 watt power supplies, 8 hotswap bays for SATA or SAS, a blue-ray drive, a RAID Card, and a chassis that is at least 2U instead of 1U as well as everything else I'm offering because you don't use RAID, you don't use optical, and you insist on having NVMe when the Intel Xeon Scalable motherboard from Supermicro the X11DAI still supports SATA and SAS.
Well its clear you know even less about Cloud computing and storage than you do server hardware.Heck the newest Comptia Server+ exam the SKO-004 still covers SATA and SAS, but it says that SSD and NVMe are replacing these. you don't even need the cloud or virtualization because all it does is tie a user account down to virtual machine so that it does less damage to the system if it becomes compromised when you could still do the same thing with just user accounts. Who cares about cloud storage too because it costs about $10.63 from google for google drive or $9.99 from Apple for Apple icloud for 2 TB of cloud storage and it's difficult to recover files from after a computer goes down because of corruption. Cloud is more difficult for them to back up too because I've lost entire saved games due to the cloud being a virtual machine like Batman Arkam Asylum, Batman Arkam City, and Just Cause 2.
It means nothing. You clearly didn't understand the implication of the original statement.It's not OEM because it didn't come with the chassis and it should mean something because I only got one SATA/SAS connector on the motherboard. Plus I've seen different versions of the X9DAI other than the X9DAI-O.
It's the same board.It's not OEM because it didn't come with the chassis and it should mean something because I only got one SATA/SAS connector on the motherboard and there was a spot to solder in a second mini-SAS connector that I said was a SATA/SAS connector. Plus I've seen different versions of the X9DAI other than the X9DAI-O.
You can't do math. 50 TB, for simplicities sake, is 50,000 GB - for glacier deep archive that's $49 a month. No one is storing stuff in top S3 tiers unless you have a need for actual high-speed (think local millisecond level access for an AWS app) access to it.Those are terrible rates for cloud storage because for 50 TB that $1150 a month and I can get 30 TB or more from Google for $149.99 plus tax a month here:
As Grebuloner said:See below
Heck, even building/buying a SAN/NAS is starting to be done with all SSD for home use now, if you need performance. Write cache limitations on things like ZFS (and the lack of truly reliable R/W caching filesystems for home use) makes that much more appealing, even if using TLC or QLC drives for the capacity tier. And backups aren't hard to do now, so you don't worry about reliability - especially with used enterprise drives coming down in price (and they're designed for full-writes-per-day for YEARS).We have shown you far better prices on better systems. You just refuse to recognize these facts and choose to focus on features that are not desirable or even in use by most people or businesses anymore. This is called cognitive dissonance. No one needs a Blu-Ray drive. RAID isn't generally used that much in home systems. It has its use in enterprise environments of specific sizes and use cases, but that doesn't have any bearing on what someone on this forum would need. Yes, we insist on NVMe storage because its what people use for a number of reasons. Even if you only used it for your OS, it makes a huge difference in how responsive the system is. Yes, SATA and SAS are supported for bulk storage when SAN is cost prohibitive, but these are legacy technologies.
Yup.Well its clear you know even less about Cloud computing and storage than you do server hardware.
It means nothing. You clearly didn't understand the implication of the original statement.
You can't do math. 50 TB, for simplicities sake, is 50,000 GB - for glacier deep archive that's $49 a month. No one is storing stuff in top S3 tiers unless you have a need for actual high-speed (think local millisecond level access for an AWS app) access to it.
That's actually pretty reasonable. I haven't kept up with Amazon S3 stuff.
This is getting way off topic, but do they offer this to consumers, or do you absolutely have to be an enterprise user?
Oh yeah. It is.Back in the day I used reverse encrypted CrashPlan for my backup needs until they shut down their consumer service. Then I shifted to an offsite backup storage server I myself operate.
Assuming I have to replace all of my hard drives once every ~5-6 years and the server hardware once every ~10 years, (or every ~5 years with used stuff) paying that price per month actually sounds very reasonable.
So I work for a backup company - I have my own toolWhats their backup/snapshot client like? Can I encrypt it locally so that Amazon lacks the encryption key on their end?
Retrieval fees and export are... not free, lets say.Lets assume the worst happens, and I need to recover 50TB of data, are they going to hold it hostage for very expensive recovery fees?
View attachment 523683
They'll take money from anyone - this is my deep archive for my backup software I run in my lab (about 75G so far - note that you do briefly have to pay for the import on a higher tier before it drops down for some of the data, as it imports, then they'll effectively discount some of that out since you're storing in archive). Lots of front-end tools to write directly to the bucket too. Uploading incrementals goes effectively straight to glacier - it's just the first upload that will touch S3 higher for a moment.
Oh yeah. It is.
So I work for a backup company - I have my own toolAnd yes, you ALWAYS own the encryption key for any software - I generated a key with openssl. You can also encrypt on their side and feed it a key you generate too - I don't use theirs, and feed it encrypted and deduped data to start out.
Retrieval fees and export are... not free, lets say.
View attachment 523684
View attachment 523685
So the retrieval job, if you don't need it fast (bulk SLA is 12 hours) is free - but the transfer OUT will cost money based on how much you want to retrieve. Given that it's a one time fee, it's not horrible - the chances of needing to retrieve EVERYTHING are... not as likely
I use glacier as an archive for older backups - things I likely won't ever need again - and a local archive (s3 target) for more recent ones or less important. Uses the same API.