Supermicro H8QGi/6 and H8QGL Next Generation OC BIOS

That is a lot of retries. Something seems awry.

 

tear, I totally agree, it must have been a WU fluke.
But forget about that, I've got good news: successfully booted with 233 16!!! Woohooo!

Isn't it something that 232 didn't post but 233 did? I had similar things happening with Intel systems but I wasn't very hopeful to be honest. This is great! It's possible I can push further
Running fah now, let's see how it goes till morning.

 

Just wanted to say thanks again tear for all you are doing, this is some amazing stuff

 

Oh well, extra memory never hurts
Think I need to reseat CPU 1?

Node 0 0000 0000 0000 0000 001c 0000 0000 0000
Node 1 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
Node 2 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
Node 3 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
Node 4 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
Node 5 0000 5a59 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
Node 6 0000 0000 32ff 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
Node 7 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000

Node 0 0000 0000 0000 0000 001c 0000 0000 0000
Node 1 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
Node 2 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
Node 3 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
Node 4 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
Node 5 0000 5a5b 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
Node 6 0000 0000 338c 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
Node 7 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000

 

It probably wouldn't be a bad idea to reseat CPU1. Make sure the contact on the bottom of the chip are clean before you reseat it.

 

Haha, I'm glad I tapped into something new!
My 6166s folded just fine through the night with 233 16. Stock voltages.

The thing is the same thing happened with 231 16: the first time it posted (after a power-cycle) and I started the client, the TPF was abnormally high at 16:37. Then, I power-cycled again and the second time around the TPF went down to an expected level at 14:52 (although it is a bit higher than what I saw with 231, I did not test it on the same frames, no direct comparison is not valid).

So, what I'm saying is, with higher refclocks (>230) somehow a second power-cycle is helping. I don't know why, but this has been my experience with 231 and 233.

I'm going to power-cycle it a few more times for ya after this WU finishes

ht-retries has been just zeroes all along. From what I understand ht-retries is giving you the cumulative number of retries, right? So, if I see zeroes now, it means there were no retries over the night, correct?

 

That is correct. The retries are cumulative since power on. If you reboot the system, the counter will not reset. It is only after a power cycle (power off, power on) that the counters are reset.

 

I have observed the same behavior as far as reboots / Power Cycles go. I have noticed that If at higher settings say 237 on 6174’s ,or so If I power cycle the rig and check retries after it comes back up if there are any the TPF will be slower. If I repower cycle until there are none and sooner or latter there will be none then the TPF drops and the rig will run with no problems. Also over time and with each WU the TPF appears to increase until I do a power cycle then it will drop again. (Possible Memory Issue?) These are just observations in no way have they been controlled test and could be purely coincidence but might be worth others watching and seeing if they are seeing the same or similar behavior.

 

Thanks firedfly!
Interesting Grandpa. I don't like the idea of losing TPF over time and I'll sure to be checking on that.

tear, I'm sorry, I won't be able to power-cycle with 233 anymore. How about I give you 235?
Yep, just posted 235 16, and folding away

 

About to finish up my 6166HE 4P install and saw this post.
I remember reading something about the second parameter in the command, in this case the "16", what does that represent?
And I previously saw a mention that 6166HEs can mod the voltage. What is the command for controlling that if I may ask?
Thanks.

 

I'm just a student here really, but I can tell you that 16 controls the memory base timings, and it should be used only if your memory has XMP 1600 profile. Even so, it is not supported (tear's instructions), and it's very much experimental from what I gather. I'm taking the risk

The voltage control is done using TPC. There are three commands to issue in a row, but I'm such a noob in this, I'll let tear or another experienced user guide you.

 

That frequency misapplication thing was not a theory, or a claim, was just a thought and I don't think that's the case actually. Frequency has been reported correctly after every power-cycle, so I don't think there's any problem with the script or the BIOS. I think it has to do with how stressing the higher refclocks are for the system. Is there any other way to diagnose this other than the ht retries?

By the way, interestingly, I did not have any problem with 235. It's now folding at 14:32, which is around what I would expect (not a benchmark to be compared to previous numbers but it's not abnormal like 16:37, etc.).

I'm very happy with how it's going. ht-retries is reporting full zeroes. Stock voltages. Temps 43-47C.

I'm starting to think that my board is liking odd refclocks. It denied 232 but worked fine with 231, 233 and 235.

 

Nope. I was waiting on the word from master Yoda
I figure the low overclock and frequency of retries might give you a good testbed to help figure out the other problems.

Your humble (my wife disagrees with this) servant awaits.

 

Who cares about 209? I've got 235 up and running
You may ask the spirits about 241 though

 

Wow, so you weren't kidding??! I really thought you were
How did you find out? I mean, how does it work?

 

I can. Tonight happens to be a good night.
If I miss you, I'll keep trying.

Yeah? tell HER that!

 

Tear has an endless supply of lab rats for testing BCLK. PETA should be knocking on the door anytime soon.

 

LMFAO

 

Reporting: Folding nicely at 235 since morning, zero ht retries. TPF is 14:29 on 6903.

 

Well I'm using 11.04 and I hope this is returning the nb speed, 6176 at 200 this says 1800mhz, all the way up to 261 it reported 2349mhz (multiples of 9x ref clock) I'm still just playing around, had a no boot at 262.... Seems my cheap cl7 1066 that did 1333 on stock bios only did 1066 at 200 and then down clocked to 800 for anything above that. Went back to my gskill eco's and they do 1333 at 200 and 1066 everything above that.

 

First, thank you tear for everything!

Second, I noticed you guys are all running MC's, lots of 6174's etc. I am building a new 4p rig. I just want to double check before I buy the chips, that even with this bios the IL 6274's should be avoided and won't overclock like the MC 6174's?

Mike

 

I was just thinking.... has anyone been keeping track of what BCLK values work for which CPU/memory combos? I think this would be very useful info.

Keith

 

From the FAQ in post 3:

Q: When will this have IL support?
A: "When AMD makes a Family 15h CPU that doesn't suck" - tear

So yes, avoid IL chips.

 

The fact that almost no one on this team is running 62xx on this team, even before OC was an option should be a strong answer. Now with OCing as an option it isn't even realy an option.

61xx chips use less power, are better at folding, are cheaper when purchased used, and now can be OC-ed.

62xx chips don't have much going for them in the folding world.

 

Thanks, sorry I missed that -- I thought I read the entire thread twice

Yes, I figured. But wanted to make sure. The 6274's are actually cheaper than the 6174's on ebay right now!

Appreciate the quick responses guys.

 

+1

And is it useful to buy ddr3 1600 mhz instead of ddr3 1333 mhz ?

Can we hope better performance ?

 

I'll repost this here also:

To answer what i think you are actually asking though, you aren't going to be able to run much over 1333 for memory speed with MC chips. The chips don't support it.

 

At least with Supermicro boards it is better to get DDR3-1333 CL7 than DDR3-1600 memory.

 

Thanks for your help .

 

I'm not sure if RAM plays any role in "what BCLK values work" but I'm running these Crucial sticks (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148488) successfully so far. They're 1600 8-8-8, but have a 1333 7-7-7 XMP profile too. They're low profile and that's why I got them over the GSkills (I needed something to slide under my Noctua 92mm's).

My rig folded nicely through the night at 241. No ht retries, temps are 43-47C. Average TPF is 14:10 on 6903. That's almost 500K on 6166HEs :knocks on wood:

I'm not done searching for the upper limit yet, but this is just awesome already. Thank you again tear and all with a hand in this!