Stick with speakers/receiver or soundbar?

Discussion in 'Home Theater PCs & Equipment' started by bagelnagel, Nov 21, 2018.

  1. bagelnagel

    bagelnagel n00bie

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    I have a pair of ARX A1B (I believe made by Chane) hooked up to a Yamaha RX-V473 Receiver. This was purchased back around 2013. No complaints, but was thinking of soundbars as I'm getting a new TV soon. Any thoughts as to why I should/shouldn't switch to a soundbar?
     
  2. IdiotInCharge

    IdiotInCharge Not the Idiot YOU are Looking for

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    Should?

    Aesthetics, maybe?

    Shouldn't?

    TINY DRIVERS

    They're effective. I won't reach so far as good, but that's very relative. If it's possible, I'd recommend adding a center channel and a sub to what you have.
     
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  3. AlphaAtlas

    AlphaAtlas [H]ard|Gawd Staff Member

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    The money you'd pay for a soundbar would be better spend on a sub or new speakers, IMO.
     
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  4. Saturn_V

    Saturn_V [H]ard|Gawd

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    If it's a bedroom, soundbars work fine. I picked up a cheap Vizio this past fall for my master bedroom TV and am pretty content with it. (but I mated it to a leftover HTiB 6" subwoofer to make myself happy)
     
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  5. Brian_B

    Brian_B [H]ard|Gawd

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    Really depends on how much space your willing to use.

    Speakers sound ~much~ better than a sound bar. And have a lot more versatility. But it costs you shelf space for the receiver plus floor / wall / shelf space for the speakers.

    Sound bar sounds ~much~ better than the shit that comes built into the TV though. I use those where I have wall mounted TVs with no shelving or floor space.
     
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  6. Commander Shepard

    Commander Shepard Proud Brony

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    I'd go with a new pair of bookshelf speakers and a subwoofer, if you have the space for them. Such a 2.1 system will blow away even the most expensive sound bars.
     
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  7. Algrim

    Algrim [H]ard|Gawd

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    A dedicated sound system will be much better than a sound bar. We ended up going with a sound bar as 1) it was dirt cheap at an auction, and 2) my wife hated the 'inconvenience' of having to switch the stereo on and select the correct input. It didn't help that the pre-amp was an extremely old Tandberg and had issues with the volume control so it would make very loud scratchy sounds at the most inconvenient times.

    We now have a completely new-to-us 5.1 speaker set with a receiver that will be placed in service once we find a house to move into (priorities, eh).
     
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  8. BladeDancer314

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    I think it depends on the size of the room, if you have plenty of room then the dedicated sounds system, if not I would go with the sound bar
     
  9. Nenu

    Nenu [H]ardened

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    Speakers, no contest.
     
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  10. bagelnagel

    bagelnagel n00bie

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    Update: Even though the speakers sound great, the SO doesn't like the look of the speakers on pedestals, and having the wires go into the receiver. It's an aesthetics thing, she wants to have a simple bar (and sub out of sight). Since I strive to keep her happy (I get an office/PC area), and even though the consensus is that dedicated speakers are better than soundbars, I'm now hoping for guidance from [H] regarding soundbars.
     
  11. Outlaw85

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    I would start with, what's your budget? I didn't see one posted yet. This will help others 'in the know' what to recommend.
     
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  12. bagelnagel

    bagelnagel n00bie

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    Fair question! I would say in the $300-500 range.
     
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  13. Outlaw85

    Outlaw85 Gawd

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    While at the top of your range, An [H] member is selling a Sonos Playbar (No sub) for 475. Looks like they go for $650-$700 out in the wild. Hopefully others will chime in soon.
    https://hardforum.com/threads/fs-sonos-playbar.1972523/#post-1043957330

    For transparency-
    I linked the FS post to potentially help [H] member/s.
    I've never worked with the seller nor do I have any experience with Sonos. I have a friend who dumped a lot of money into the Sonos system for around his house and they do sound really good but he does have the subwoofer (Additional $700). I'm not sure if this would even compare to the soundbar even without the sub.
     
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    Although I already own a soundbar (and am quite pleased with it for the money paid) I wouldn't spend more than $200 on one.

    We're still talking about 2-3" speakers/drivers after all.
     
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    Speakers man, it's not even close. Put your foot down about it, don't let a woman dictate your sound quality.
     
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    I was in a Fry's Electronics checking out all sorts of Amplifier + Speaker combinations and was ready to pull the trigger on a nice Onkyo Reciever and Klipsch or Polk Towers. Then I walked by a display unit with a Klipsch RSB-11 Soundbar and I am blown away at the sound quality. It is an amazing device! I really enjoy the fact that it has 3x 4k HDMI 2.0 inputs on it so now I can leave the TV on HDMI-1 input and plug in my PC, Xbox One X, and Roku Ultra into the soundbar and use the Soundbar as a Receiver get great sound and full 4k w/ HDR Video Support for my devices. I walked in the store knowing my old Vizio soundbar didnt sound all that great and was convinced that all soundbars must be shitty but I was wrong.
     
  19. ironforge

    ironforge [H]ard|Gawd

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    Be careful in the store. Observe how the sound system is set up. On the systems that they are trying to push, there is probably sound treatment, optimal space/layout of speakers, etc. The other speakers may be too close together, cramped space, hot spots where the sound will reflect. It may not always be this way but keep an eye out to make sure the listening environment is equal.
     
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    This doesnt read well, especially when you have only 4 posts.
    I dont for one moment believe you that this is a worthy replacement for stereo speakers.
    Can you give further evidence that this sound bar is capable of replacing decent stereo speakers?
    The number of inputs has no bearing on this.
     
  21. Algrim

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    My wife and I picked up a Klipsch soundbar/sub at an auction. I can attest to a reasonable audio quality for the price (even if we paid MSRP) but it's no where near dedicated-component quality.

    Also, 'movie sound' is mixed differently than music, at least to my ears. While I feel like the soundbar does a respectable job punching out an acceptable sound for movies, I don't listen to music on it as it sounds wrong to me, not the least of which is the lack of separation of the left and right channels which destroys any semblance of a decent soundstage.
     
  22. davidm71

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    I was having the same problem. My old home theater speakers sucked and needed an upgrade. Had a Yamaha Rx-v673 and Yamaha subwoofer and needed to complete the set. I went to bestbuy and picked up a few definitive technology speakers. Had to special order the bookshelf Pro-1000s but they had the Center Pro 1000 model in stock and that sounds pretty good if you ask me. Going for 3.1. Recommend them fairly easily.