RanceJustice
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Hello everyone. It has come to my attention that there's a hardware glitch in my primary mouse and I'll have to buy another brand unless I can get in touch with the manufacturer and see about a replacement. A pity, as its by far the best multi-button "MMO" style mouse I've ever used - it even has an X360 thumbstick and completely open source cross-platform software!
With this in mind I've been looking for new high-quality gaming mice, while my old Logitech G5 serves in the meantime. My first idea was to head back to Logitech and consider the G500 and G9x, and while the G500 may be a great "fallback" the G9x seems like its getting a little long in the tooth. On the plus side, Logitech mice work great without special drivers/software, and SetPoint isn't intrusive. I also looked any many of the smaller brands like Roccat but it seems that their feature sets and specs don't seem to justify the price they command.
Next I moved onto appraising Razer, of which I have a middling opinion. I have an Orochi mouse to compliment my laptop and it works well and seems to be the best available in its class. I've not always been happy with Razer drivers and software, which seems cumbersome and often more style than substance. From here I'm considering the Mamba 4G and the Naga Epic, both seem to be of high reputation. I should note that the wireless option is nice, but not a factor in my purchase - I'm more interested in the other features.
Finally, I've come to Steelseries, with whom I'm impressed based solely upon owning their SX anodized aluminum mousepad, but having never used a primary peripheral. SteelSeries has 3 mice in which I am interested
1. World of Warcraft Cataclysm Mouse - http://steelseries.com/products/gam.../world-of-warcraft-cataclysm-mmo-gaming-mouse - The only one of the 3 that is currently available as of 8/12/11, this is really quite interesting. While the earlier WoW mouse from SteelSeries didn't seem particularly helpful, this one is more of a competitor for the Naga. It apparently uses a specialized WoW-specific binding software (ie. You bind "open map" to it instead of telling it to put 'm' key on Button 7, from what I've read). If anyone has used it, please let me know what you think about this software? Is it truly stand alone, or does it interface with WoW itself? Also, how well does it work on OTHER games - can you bring down multiple bindings on other profiles for say, a FPS or another MMO like Rift? If not, does it at least serve as a "basic" mouse without any issue when not in WoW? Apparently, a FAQ states that SteelSeries WoW mice are the only ones that have a special configuration option in game as well, so this may be an advantage.
2. World of Warcraft Legendary Edition Mouse - http://steelseries.com/products/gam...world-of-warcraft-mmo-mouse-legendary-edition - Coming soon, this seems to be the little brother to the aforementioned Cataclysm edition. I see some big changes, such as the removal of the laser for an optical sensor instead, slightly fewer buttons, a smaller chassis and the admittedly nice Thunderfury motif. Aside from the aesthetic change and smaller chassis, I'm unsure if there's anything in here considered an upgrade. Seems a little unfortunate they took away a few extra buttons and downgraded the 5800dpi laser sensor to a 3200dpi optical, but I suppose some felt the original Cata variant was too big and that those who predominantly played MMOs wouldn't need a laser?
3. Steelseries Sensei - http://steelseries.com/products/mice/steelseries-sensei - Touted as the "grand master", and successor to the Xai and Ikari this seems on paper to be THE best "standard amount of buttons, non MMO" mouse I've ever seen. It has an 32-bit proc that's as powerful as an early Pentium PC which allows it to obtain a rough 12,000dpi if you wish, and a little LCD on the back enabling you to configure the whole thing without any drivers. I assume that it, along with the WoW mice has ample storage space fo macros and profiles. If you wish to use the SteelSeries drivers, it apparently works on their next-gen "SteelSeries Engine" software along with a few of its direct subordinates like the Diablo3 mouse. The top of the chassis looks to be made out of metal, according to a few previews, which is a nice touch. It apparently includes some new technology, like automatically detecting the speed you're moving it and altering the dpi, so if it detects you're moving very small amounts like when you're sniping in a FPS it will ensure you have more control, and then altering it again when it detects you moving to get you out of there fast, without having to tap a key when you go into sniper mode if you don't wish. Apparently, it will be available in September.
Whew, that's a lot. From my research, it appears that the Sensei is probably a MUCH better choice than the Razer Mamba - its new features just seem amazing for a general use gaming mouse if it is as good in practice as on paper. Now the Naga Epic compared to the SS Cataclysm and Legendary seems a bit closer. I'm guessing that for WoW itself, the SteelSeries may be better but it remains to be seen how it will function in other games. My issues with Razer drivers (Still haven't forgiven them for the N52te) and hearing that its sometimes difficult to bind the Naga Epic buttons unless you use their particular WoW addon doesn't instill much confidence, and really pushes me to giving SteelSeries World of Warcraft line a try- Between the Cataclysm and Legendary SS offerings, I'm leaning toward the former as it seems to have more features and power, but if anyone has data on the improvements, if any, of the Legendary in real world use let me know.
Thus, it seems the SteelSeries Sensei is a clear winner, so I think its most certainly worth an upgrade for a "normal" mouse. The only other question for me is which SteelSeries WoW mouse is worthwhile? So, I've tried to list my reasoning and thought process for selecting a new high-end mouse (or perhaps, mice?) and have narrowed the playing field accordingly in the hopes I've come down to the "best" in my experience and prediction. Does anyone have anything to add, anything I've forgotten or suggestions to make? A
With this in mind I've been looking for new high-quality gaming mice, while my old Logitech G5 serves in the meantime. My first idea was to head back to Logitech and consider the G500 and G9x, and while the G500 may be a great "fallback" the G9x seems like its getting a little long in the tooth. On the plus side, Logitech mice work great without special drivers/software, and SetPoint isn't intrusive. I also looked any many of the smaller brands like Roccat but it seems that their feature sets and specs don't seem to justify the price they command.
Next I moved onto appraising Razer, of which I have a middling opinion. I have an Orochi mouse to compliment my laptop and it works well and seems to be the best available in its class. I've not always been happy with Razer drivers and software, which seems cumbersome and often more style than substance. From here I'm considering the Mamba 4G and the Naga Epic, both seem to be of high reputation. I should note that the wireless option is nice, but not a factor in my purchase - I'm more interested in the other features.
Finally, I've come to Steelseries, with whom I'm impressed based solely upon owning their SX anodized aluminum mousepad, but having never used a primary peripheral. SteelSeries has 3 mice in which I am interested
1. World of Warcraft Cataclysm Mouse - http://steelseries.com/products/gam.../world-of-warcraft-cataclysm-mmo-gaming-mouse - The only one of the 3 that is currently available as of 8/12/11, this is really quite interesting. While the earlier WoW mouse from SteelSeries didn't seem particularly helpful, this one is more of a competitor for the Naga. It apparently uses a specialized WoW-specific binding software (ie. You bind "open map" to it instead of telling it to put 'm' key on Button 7, from what I've read). If anyone has used it, please let me know what you think about this software? Is it truly stand alone, or does it interface with WoW itself? Also, how well does it work on OTHER games - can you bring down multiple bindings on other profiles for say, a FPS or another MMO like Rift? If not, does it at least serve as a "basic" mouse without any issue when not in WoW? Apparently, a FAQ states that SteelSeries WoW mice are the only ones that have a special configuration option in game as well, so this may be an advantage.
2. World of Warcraft Legendary Edition Mouse - http://steelseries.com/products/gam...world-of-warcraft-mmo-mouse-legendary-edition - Coming soon, this seems to be the little brother to the aforementioned Cataclysm edition. I see some big changes, such as the removal of the laser for an optical sensor instead, slightly fewer buttons, a smaller chassis and the admittedly nice Thunderfury motif. Aside from the aesthetic change and smaller chassis, I'm unsure if there's anything in here considered an upgrade. Seems a little unfortunate they took away a few extra buttons and downgraded the 5800dpi laser sensor to a 3200dpi optical, but I suppose some felt the original Cata variant was too big and that those who predominantly played MMOs wouldn't need a laser?
3. Steelseries Sensei - http://steelseries.com/products/mice/steelseries-sensei - Touted as the "grand master", and successor to the Xai and Ikari this seems on paper to be THE best "standard amount of buttons, non MMO" mouse I've ever seen. It has an 32-bit proc that's as powerful as an early Pentium PC which allows it to obtain a rough 12,000dpi if you wish, and a little LCD on the back enabling you to configure the whole thing without any drivers. I assume that it, along with the WoW mice has ample storage space fo macros and profiles. If you wish to use the SteelSeries drivers, it apparently works on their next-gen "SteelSeries Engine" software along with a few of its direct subordinates like the Diablo3 mouse. The top of the chassis looks to be made out of metal, according to a few previews, which is a nice touch. It apparently includes some new technology, like automatically detecting the speed you're moving it and altering the dpi, so if it detects you're moving very small amounts like when you're sniping in a FPS it will ensure you have more control, and then altering it again when it detects you moving to get you out of there fast, without having to tap a key when you go into sniper mode if you don't wish. Apparently, it will be available in September.
Whew, that's a lot. From my research, it appears that the Sensei is probably a MUCH better choice than the Razer Mamba - its new features just seem amazing for a general use gaming mouse if it is as good in practice as on paper. Now the Naga Epic compared to the SS Cataclysm and Legendary seems a bit closer. I'm guessing that for WoW itself, the SteelSeries may be better but it remains to be seen how it will function in other games. My issues with Razer drivers (Still haven't forgiven them for the N52te) and hearing that its sometimes difficult to bind the Naga Epic buttons unless you use their particular WoW addon doesn't instill much confidence, and really pushes me to giving SteelSeries World of Warcraft line a try- Between the Cataclysm and Legendary SS offerings, I'm leaning toward the former as it seems to have more features and power, but if anyone has data on the improvements, if any, of the Legendary in real world use let me know.
Thus, it seems the SteelSeries Sensei is a clear winner, so I think its most certainly worth an upgrade for a "normal" mouse. The only other question for me is which SteelSeries WoW mouse is worthwhile? So, I've tried to list my reasoning and thought process for selecting a new high-end mouse (or perhaps, mice?) and have narrowed the playing field accordingly in the hopes I've come down to the "best" in my experience and prediction. Does anyone have anything to add, anything I've forgotten or suggestions to make? A