Steam Hardware Survey updated with GPUs

I cant think of tossing my 970 for a very long time, especially now that it is in my HTPC. Can play AAA games with most at ultra settings. nVidia has just been releasing good products over the last few years. AMD still struggling (unless you are a miner)
 
Steam August

DX12 systems. This requires Windows 10 with a DX12 GPU.
GTX 1080TI 0.52% (+0.12%)
GTX 1080 1.52% (+0.25%)
GTX 1070 2.86% (+0.46%)
GTX 1060 3.97% (+0.65%)
GTX 1050TI 1.78% (+0.32%)
GTX 1050 1.05% (+0.09%)
GTX 1030 0.02% (+0.01%)
RX Vega 64 below threshold.
RX Vega 56 below threshold.
RX 580 0.08% (+0.01%)
RX 570 0.02% (+0.01%)
RX 560 0.02% (0.00%)
RX 550 0.02% (+0.01%)
RX 480 0.70% (+0.06%)
RX 470 0.23% (+0.02%)
RX 460 0.27% (+0.01%)

Installed base.
AMD loses 1.6% in graphics.
Nvidia gains 3.7% in graphics.
Intel loses 2.1% in graphics.
Intel gains 1.6% in CPU.
AMD loses 1.6% in CPU.

Slightly positive change in VR headsets due to oculus.

DX12 GPUs alone without OS requirement.
GTX 1080TI 0.66% (+0.13%)
GTX 1080 1.98% (+0.24%)
GTX 1070 3.85% (+0.44%)
GTX 1060 7.63% (+1.26%)
GTX 1050TI 4.11% (+0.81%)
GTX 1050 2.54% (+0.37%)
GTX 1030 below threshold.
RX Vega 64 below threshold.
RX Vega 56 below threshold.
RX 580 below threshold.
RX 570 below threshold.
RX 560 below threshold.
RX 550 below threshold.
RX 480 0.95% (+0.03%)
RX 470 0.39% (+0.05%)
RX 460 0.52% (-0.01%)

8 core CPUs grew 0.07%. 6 cores grew 0.13%.
 
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Current installed base by vendor:

GPU:
Nvidia 67.62%
AMD 18.63%
Intel 13.41%
Other 0.34%

CPU:
Intel 82.28%
AMD 17.72%
 
Every time - this is so crazy. MOst popular gpu in chart is 1060 and it's only 4%, while the 1070 is almost 3%, while I would imagine it's most popular
 
Steam September

DX12 systems. This requires Windows 10 with a DX12 GPU.
GTX 1080TI 0.52% (0.00%)
GTX 1080 1.26% (-0.26%)
GTX 1070 2.39% (-0.47%)
GTX 1060 3.82% (-0.15%)
GTX 1050TI 2.03% (+0.25%)
GTX 1050 1.43% (+0.38%)
GTX 1030 below threshold.
RX Vega 0.02% (+0.02%)
RX 580 0.09% (+0.01%)
RX 570 0.02% (0.00%)
RX 560 0.04% (+0.02%)
RX 550 0.02% (0.00%)
RX 480 0.53% (-0.17%)
RX 470 0.18% (-0.05%)
RX 460 0.24% (-0.03%)

Installed base.
AMD loses 1.5% in graphics.
Nvidia gains 2.7% in graphics.
Intel loses 1.2% in graphics.
Intel gains 1.2% in CPU.
AMD loses 1.2% in CPU.

Significant negative change in VR headsets.

DX12 GPUs alone without OS requirement.
GTX 1080TI 0.65% (-0.01%)
GTX 1080 1.64% (-0.34%)
GTX 1070 3.21% (-0.64%)
GTX 1060 8.95% (+1.32%)
GTX 1050TI 5.96% (+1.85%)
GTX 1050 3.57% (+1.03%)
GTX 1030 below threshold.
RX Vega below threshold.
RX 580 below threshold.
RX 570 below threshold.
RX 560 below threshold.
RX 550 below threshold.
RX 480 0.71% (-0.24%)
RX 470 below threshold.
RX 460 0.53% (+0.01%)

8 core CPUs grew 0.01%. 6 cores decline 0.17%.
 
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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950
1.92%
2.14%
2.11%
2.61%
2.98%
+0.37%

Wtf?

Is there something about the GTX 950 that I'm not aware of?

Why so many purchases of GTX 950 in August and September?????

GTX 1050 is the exact same price and much better in every way.


Also this:

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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti
5.83%
5.79%
5.69%
6.33%
7.22%
+0.89%

Also exact same price as 1050.

Crazy people are crazy.

Reviewers need to step up their game and tell people that 1050 and 1050 Ti exists.
 
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Communism said:
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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950
1.92%
2.14%
2.11%
2.61%
2.98%
+0.37%

Wtf?

Is there something about the GTX 950 that I'm not aware of?

Why so many purchases of GTX 950 in August and September?????

GTX 1050 is the exact same price and much better in every way.


Also this:

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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti
5.83%
5.79%
5.69%
6.33%
7.22%
+0.89%

Also exact same price as 1050.

Crazy people are crazy.

Reviewers need to step up their game and tell people that 1050 and 1050 Ti exists.
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Survey doesn't always mean they bought it yesterday. Depends on when they are polled. My machine here never gets polled, my other Frankenstein hand-me-down gets polled every so often.
 
JustReason said:
Survey doesn't always mean they bought it yesterday. Depends on when they are polled. My machine here never gets polled, my other Frankenstein hand-me-down gets polled every so often.
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Law of large numbers should even that out fairly well given the immense sample size.
 
Back to school and cheap PCs?

Budget cards seems to have a strong sales period around that time frame.
 
I'm clearly missing something in the reported numbers. The main HW survey page lists 68% of systems as having the DX12 card+Win10 combination in the graph; but if i click on more details it shows W10 as only having a 47% install share.
 
DanNeely said:
I'm clearly missing something in the reported numbers. The main HW survey page lists 68% of systems as having the DX12 card+Win10 combination in the graph; but if i click on more details it shows W10 as only having a 47% install share.
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is that both DX10 listings? Usually are 2 you have to add together sometimes 3.
 
JustReason said:
is that both DX10 listings? Usually are 2 you have to add together sometimes 3.
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I'm not adding anything together. The topline W10 and DX12 listing by itself is 68% (W10 and DX 11 or less are mixed in with the other levels); but that number by itself says at least 68% of systems are W10. Details does split out W10-64 and W10-32bit; but the latter is a sub 1% rounding error.
 
DanNeely said:
I'm not adding anything together. The topline W10 and DX12 listing by itself is 68% (W10 and DX 11 or less are mixed in with the other levels); but that number by itself says at least 68% of systems are W10. Details does split out W10-64 and W10-32bit; but the latter is a sub 1% rounding error.
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I cant make any sense of it then. All DX12 is Win10. And most of the Cards are DX12 in some form in last few years. Maybe Intel iGPU or some archaic dGPU?
 
Communism said:
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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950
1.92%
2.14%
2.11%
2.61%
2.98%
+0.37%

Wtf?

Is there something about the GTX 950 that I'm not aware of?

Why so many purchases of GTX 950 in August and September?????

GTX 1050 is the exact same price and much better in every way.


Also this:

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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti
5.83%
5.79%
5.69%
6.33%
7.22%
+0.89%

Also exact same price as 1050.

Crazy people are crazy.

Reviewers need to step up their game and tell people that 1050 and 1050 Ti exists.
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Maybe a bunch of kids brought "gaming" PC's from big box stores for college. I seen PC at Best Buy recently still selling ones with a 750 for $600.
 
DanNeely said:
I'm clearly missing something in the reported numbers. The main HW survey page lists 68% of systems as having the DX12 card+Win10 combination in the graph; but if i click on more details it shows W10 as only having a 47% install share.
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On my phone, so didn't check graphs yet. Could it be that 68% of that 47% W10 install base has a DX12 card?
 
GTX 1050TI hands down should be killing it with the mining craze taking the other cards. Plus its amazing how well it plays at 1080P, which I assume most people still game at.
 
J3RK said:
On my phone, so didn't check graphs yet. Could it be that 68% of that 47% W10 install base has a DX12 card?
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I don't think so. The sections on the graph are:

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68.27%  DX12GPU & WIN10
16.05%  DX12GPU & Pre-WIN10
 8.15%  DX11GPU & Vista+
 5.90%  DX10GPU & Vista+
 0.28%  DX10/11/12GPU & XP
 1.34%  Other
 
Skripka said:
Because:

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Is that hard and expensive?
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but how much work could you have done on building hats in the time this took from conception to implementation?
Don't forget debugging :p
 
October figures are out

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/

And it appears that a ton of pent-up demand was realized...

DirectX 12 GPUs
78.02%
77.83%
82.50%
83.45%
89.83%
+6.38%

DIRECTX 12 GPUS
JUN
JUL
AUG
SEP
OCT

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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960
5.66%
5.66%
6.90%
7.90%
14.33%
+6.43%

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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti
5.79%
5.69%
6.33%
7.22%
14.10%
+6.88%

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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060
6.20%
6.37%
7.63%
8.95%
12.46%
+3.51%

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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
2.76%
3.30%
4.11%
5.96%
9.15%
+3.19%

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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950
2.14%
2.11%
2.61%
2.98%
5.88%
+2.90%

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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050
1.72%
2.17%
2.54%
3.57%
4.27%
+0.70%

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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750
1.76%
1.73%
1.59%
1.76%
2.15%
+0.39%

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that Nvidia will have a great Q4 in the Gaming GPU section...

PC gaming is most certainly not dead, lol.....


Also:

PHYSICAL CPUS (WINDOWS)
JUN
JUL
AUG
SEP
OCT

2 cpus
41.58%
42.02%
36.10%
36.02%
26.39%
-9.63%

4 cpus
52.59%
51.99%
58.06%
58.66%
70.26%
+11.60%

6 cpus
1.45%
1.48%
1.61%
1.44%
0.98%
-0.46%

8 cpus
0.47%
0.49%
0.56%
0.57%
0.39%
-0.18%
 
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Communism said:
October figures are out

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/

And it appears that a ton of pent-up demand was realized...
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Look at other stats. Something crazy happened all over. Stats that normally only move a percent or two at most per month all showed huge shifts and the data - which wasn't entirely consistent in previous months is even more out of whack. eg the main page graph shows 73% of users with DX12 + Win10; but the OS version shows a ~20% shift from Win10 to Win7 leaving the former at 28%.

At this point, and barring some sort of explanation from Valve I'd say the stats are broken to the extent that they should be completely disregarded.
 
DanNeely said:
Look at other stats. Something crazy happened all over. Stats that normally only move a percent or two at most per month all showed huge shifts and the data - which wasn't entirely consistent in previous months is even more out of whack. eg the main page graph shows 73% of users with DX12 + Win10; but the OS version shows a ~20% shift from Win10 to Win7 leaving the former at 28%.

At this point, and barring some sort of explanation from Valve I'd say the stats are broken to the extent that they should be completely disregarded.
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DX12 Cards are literally that, DX12 capable cards.

They are categorizing them by their capability, not whether or not the owner of the card has Windows 10 installed or not.

The most likely explanation for the large change is probably due to Steam ninja re-enabling telemetry in one of their Steam Updates (Like Microsoft likes to do with Windows) which has skewed the numbers.
 
Communism said:
DX12 Cards are literally that, DX12 capable cards.

They are categorizing them by their capability, not whether or not the owner of the card has Windows 10 installed or not.

The most likely explanation for the large change is probably due to Steam ninja re-enabling telemetry in one of their Steam Updates (Like Microsoft likes to do with Windows) which has skewed the numbers.
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Go back to the main page. The top section of the middle graph is "DX12 GPU and WIN10" (DX12 GPU and older versions of windows is the lighter blue immediately below). They're claiming that's 73.96% of the userbase; while if you scroll down a bit they're also saying only 28% of users have win10.

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DanNeely said:
Go back to the main page. The top section of the middle graph is "DX12 GPU and WIN10" (DX12 GPU and older versions of windows is the lighter blue immediately below). They're claiming that's 73.96% of the userbase; while if you scroll down a bit they're also saying only 28% of users have win10.
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Those two number have never lined up with each other at any point in Steam history.

It's not something new.
 
Communism said:
Those two number have never lined up with each other at any point in Steam history.
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Until recently they'd always been very close; within the variation you could fit by how different categories were/not broken out (eg W10 + non DX12 being split over multiple bands in the graph). The last few months have shown a massive divergence culminating with the most recent update alternately claiming that ~1/4 or ~3/4ths of gamers being W10 depending on which number you look at. It is totally beyond credible at this point.
 

Its China. PUBG is driving a huge number to Steam, skewing (not skewing but I would say, making the Steam Survey more globalized in its findings, accounting more for Chinese gamers and their hardware)

Look at the numbers for Language. Chinese had a 26% increase. Aside from helping us account for the Chinese market I wouldnt say these findings condemn AMD to the dustbin nor give Nvidia a huge jump in earnings. (Not that they wont have a huge jump, just its not cause tons of people suddenly brought Nvidia stuff, they already existed, unaccounted cause they dont have Steam accounts.)
 
I have not been on stream in years and I have all AMD hardware as I play stuff like iRacing sims in Eyefinity or Wot/WoW .. so I wouldn't go around thinking stream is the golden rule of anything other then where the Nvidia fan club hangs out.


Record revenue of $2.64 billion, up 32 percent from a year ago

Just means there over charging people by 32% of what the product is worth and prices show this very well ,, but people line up like there an iPhone 11 release.
 
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crazycrave said:
I have not been on stream in years and I have all AMD hardware as I play stuff like iRacing sims in Eyefinity or Wot/WoW .. so I wouldn't go around thinking stream is the golden rule of anything other then where the Nvidia fan club hangs out.

Record revenue of $2.64 billion, up 32 percent from a year ago

Just means there over charging people by 32% of what the product is worth and prices show this very well ,, but people line up like there an iPhone 11 release.
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Satistics and economics are so annoying. I hate it when they don't align with what I want to believe too!

1. Steam is really not an elite NVidia only enclave. You not using it is not indicative of anything other than you. This is Data not Anecdotes.
2. Things sell if they are worth it to people. If they are selling huge numbers of a product at a given price, it is worth that price. By definition. It's not "overcharging" unless they said it was going to be $X, but then you got an invoice for $Y. If you see the price X, agree to pay it, it's not overcharging. If it is too much, don't buy it. But don't get mad other people have different personal finance models than you.
 
crazycrave said:
I have not been on stream in years and I have all AMD hardware as I play stuff like iRacing sims in Eyefinity or Wot/WoW .. so I wouldn't go around thinking stream is the golden rule of anything other then where the Nvidia fan club hangs out.


Record revenue of $2.64 billion, up 32 percent from a year ago

Just means there over charging people by 32% of what the product is worth and prices show this very well ,, but people line up like there an iPhone 11 release.
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Also want to add to what PhaseNoise stated companies increase margins in many different, its not solely on MSRP. Its everything from manufacturing all the way up to MSRP. A company that is a market leader, like nV with 70+ % of the market, has more leverage with B2B and B2M relationships. This is where they end up getting increased margins, nV can negotiate for lower prices on RAM than AMD can, because of volume, they can get discounts on PCB and other components than AMD can't, because of the volume they are doing. This will trickle down to the AIB partners too because those specific card will require more from Flextronics or whom ever is putting the cards together. They will have more volume so the company prices per unit will be less.

Whats the major cost here wafers and memory, they aren't the biggest TSMC customer, but they are second largest I think. So they might get a discount there.

Also margins went up only .5% from last quarter lol, so yeah not much change.

What you are looking at is the impact of other market segments GPU products have went into, namely DL, HPC, consoles (switch), and more GPU gaming sales than last year.

If anyone thought this wasn't coming after seeing AMD's fiscal Q, they shouldn't invent ;)
 
You have to think back and remember the price range of a card like a 1070GTX should only cost around $299 and same go's for Vega54 as that is the area those card belong in and not $399+ .. so yes we are overpaying for iPhone like products and I have no issue spending a grand or so on my computer in different areas to keep it current but computer tech is only good for the stock holder and not the consumer as it's noting but lose of value over time other then the mining craze.
 
crazycrave said:
You have to think back and remember the price range of a card like a 1070GTX should only cost around $299 and same go's for Vega54 as that is the area those card belong in and not $399+ .. so yes we are overpaying for iPhone like products and I have no issue spending a grand or so on my computer in different areas to keep it current but computer tech is only good for the stock holder and not the consumer as it's noting but lose of value over time other then the mining craze.
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Really who says so, the gtx 1070 matches the gtx 980ti in performance a gtx 980ti was launched at 650 bucks? The 1070, was launched at 389 bucks (withstanding the FE).

We are getting the performance of last generations top end at one bracket less price. That is normal. Just because the chip is smaller doesn't mean we aren't getting the normal performance update with the price drop.

Lets take down so break down in brackets, with Maxwell, the gtx 970 was the ONLY high end midrange chip, it was a midrange chip, it was priced at 299 that is the upper end of midrange. The 1070 was priced in the middle of the performance bracket, it was never ment to be a midrange chip, its performance was enough to be placed in performance and thus the increased cost. nV charging more? Yeah but we still get the performance of one bracket higher of the older gen, at a significantly lower cost.

Now did the gtx 970 match the gtx 780 ti?

No it didn't, the gtx 980 matched the gtx 780ti though. What was the price of the gtx 980 @ launch? It was $550, gtx 780ti launch price? $699.

Everything is going by performance of the new card vs the older generation of cards. Yeah nV was able to increase margins by having a chip that was smaller, but the performance was there to substantiate the price. If AMD was able to come out with a chip that matched the 1070 at a lower price lets say 100 bucks lower, that would have forced nV to lower the price of the 1070, but that didn't happen.
 
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It seems like most the time the steam survey pops up is when I'm about to play a game so I never do it. I'm surprised how many people do.
 
Wait, so my video card is now the most popular?

That's crazy!

I expected it to be the 750 Ti followed by the 970 or something....
 
Dermen said:
It seems like most the time the steam survey pops up is when I'm about to play a game so I never do it. I'm surprised how many people do.
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For me it only pops up when I'm on a laptop or a secondary system. It almost never shows up when I'm playing on my main gaming system.
 
I can't wait for Vietnam, India, Pakistan, Iran, etc join the Steam revolution. Windows 10 will be completely erased from Steam then!
 
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