Steam Hardware Survey updated with GPUs

Discussion in 'Video Cards' started by Shintai, Jul 9, 2016.

  1. Shintai

    Shintai [H]ardness Supreme

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    Intel has fallen at a steady rate during the new gaming era. And as I showed, even when the Chinese amount falls. Intel, like AMD also drops. The Chinese excuse is no longer valid.
     
  2. Spoonie_G

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    And PC gamers are still stuck on 1080p while even consumer TV's have moved past 1080p. I remember when PC resolutions were always greater than consumer TV's. Not anymore.
     
  3. Nenu

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    If GPUs could beat the latest TV res while maintaining 60fps+ on everything you would have a point.
    A while back 60fps was a dream at advanced res.
    But 4K res is tough to master, only NVidia cards are getting a grip on it.
    And multi card has taken a back seat.

    Failing to consider that PCs can game on 4K TVs and monitors doesnt help your case.
    And higher res displays are supported.
     
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    When I was younger, I longed to find someone who would sell a lot of units to minors.
     
  5. Spoonie_G

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    OK... 1440p then. 1080p technology has been around since like 2000. 18 years PC gamers have been stuck on that res. SMH
     
  6. Nenu

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    You should learn to read.
     
  7. Shintai

    Shintai [H]ardness Supreme

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    As expected, NVidia long row of record quarters continues, denies any memory supply issue and just overall confirms what we see on Steam.
     
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    We are deploying 2P Xeon Platinum servers...with 3 x Tesla P40..."oddly" no problems getting Tesla SKU's.

    Buying power of enterprise over miners/gamers...

    We have no plans to deploy anything AMD...
     
  9. Spoonie_G

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    You should stop being a jerk
     
  10. KazeoHin

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    Nobody gets fired for choosing Nvidia.
     
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    I'm the jerk?
    You created a scene about something that isnt true, simply because you cant read.
    And you call me a jerk for having to point that out because you wont cease.
    Amusing.
     
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  13. Spoonie_G

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    And there's no excuse for PC's to at least be at 1440p by now. We've had hardware that can run 1440p for several years now. PC gamers are stuck at 1080p for whatever reasons and that was my point.
     
  14. Nenu

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    PC gamers are not stuck at 1080p.
     
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    AltTabbins [H]ard as it Gets

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    I think its the sweet spot right now. 4k performance is still a little iffy on mid-range hardware at high settings. 1440p is a great place to be if you are running like a 1060 or 1070. It also makes sense for larger monitors. I like 1440p MUCH more on a 27" monitor than I do 1080p.
     
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    I'll tell you why 1080P gaming is still not only prevalent but sufficient for most gamers. PPI.

    Pixel per inch has diminishing returns visually and especially when the distance we sit from the screen hadn't changed. TVs keep getting bigger and the bigger the screen, the more likely to desire higher resolution. PC gamers are still using 22, 24, 27 and 30 inch monitors from a few feet away at most.
     
  17. Shintai

    Shintai [H]ardness Supreme

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    Is that the latest excuse?
     
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    I guess enterprise is a big unknown to a lot of posters...will take them a long time to figure out how that segment is way different than the gaming-/mining-segment.

    And in the meanwhile they will miss the door and hit the wall again and again using their old "arguments"...
     
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  19. razor1

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    Yeah its a totally different market, just have to look back to the Opteron days, it took 2 years for AMD to make inroads into the server market (which there were no Intel rebates or kickbacks for those markets), where Opterons would run circles around P4, yet just because Ryzen/Eypc is close to Intel's current gen, people automatically think AMD will take server market share right off the bat, just doesn't work that way.
     
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  20. Gideon

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    Business requirements are completely different than home use man, you should know this, businesses have 3 main requirements, first and foremost their contractual obligations, second, platform reliability, third service agreements.

    Contractual obligations is a big thing, they can't just switch over to AMD hardware on the spot, when new hardware comes out. That is why the lag time will always be there from the release of a new competitive product in business world. Most IT contracts are done on a 2 to 5 year planning schedule. Now once the new product comes out, they can use those products as negotiation points, to get reduced price or what not for the following contract, or update their current contract for the next quarter, but that is hard to do because supply chains have to be modified once that is done. These are expensive parts, which take quite a bit resources and other companies involved in making these products.

    Then platform reliability, The Ryzen, Eypc platforms are still being tested and proven, this also takes time, when deploying for servers markets, they can't have down time, they need to ensure the platform is going to be stable in many different scenarios. This is also why validation of server components take much longer too. For regular desktop use in business settings, Ryzen doesn't offer anything over Intel counterparts, the better graphics performance is useless. Most IT manuals, update computers ever 5 years for desktops, there is a cyclical change here, but will Ryzen force the change on their contractual obligations early? Not really. Eypc has better chance of that.

    Service agreements don't play too much into this as they are an off shoot of the main contract.
     
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  22. Factum

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    That was fast my point was confirmed.
    And it's not like hardware is chosen by chance...architects designs the platform according to what the customer pays for (that contract-thingy)...and if people think hardware is expensive...they would keel over if they knew the cost of software...
     
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  23. Shintai

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    The software bills tends to have a digit more on them here than hardware ;)
     
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  24. PhaseNoise

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    And hardware doesn't "expire" if you don't cough up the cash this year.
     
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  25. singe_101

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    How far are people sitting away from their monitors?

    I like my desk but 24" is already pretty big, to me.
     
  26. NeoNemesis

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    I wish they'd break down stats by region.
     
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    Theres a lot of cool things you could do if we could have all this raw data!
     
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    Depends on the size, maybe 1-2 feet for 34” and under, 55” 3-4 feet?
     
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    Still using a gtx 780 at 1080p. It does pretty well at that resolution. With all the crypto mining and its effect on prices a graphics card upgrade is out of budget.
     
  30. SighTurtle

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    From Oculus, their hardware data.

    GPU: 92.2% Nvidia, 7.8% AMD
    CPU: 89.1% Intel, 10.9% AMD

    They also have Top 15 CPUs and GPUs, VRAM and OS distribution. Reminder that Oculus, according to Steam composes 49.2% of the VR headsets.

    February:

    CPU:
    Intel 90.9% (-1.03%)
    AMD 9.1% (+1.06%)

    GPU:
    Nvidia 85.3%
    AMD 8.9%
    Intel 5.6%
     
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  31. Shintai

    Shintai [H]ardness Supreme

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    So Oculus pretty much shows the exact same distribution as Steam :)
     
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    Don't come here with logic and facts ;)
     
  33. Shintai

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    Ye, it´s much easier to blame someone else...like Nvidia :D
     
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    I prefer the "My machine has never participated, this data set is useless!"....it always makes me chuckle when people disqualifies themselfes....and don't realize it ;)
     
  35. Shintai

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    I am already preparing the popcorn for the Oculus excuses since they took data from all online devices.
     
  36. SighTurtle

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    March:

    CPU:
    Intel 88.6% (-2.05%)
    AMD 11.4% (+2.06%)

    GPU:
    Nvidia 82.3%
    AMD 10.8%
    Intel 6.8%
     
  37. Gideon

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    Well we know who wont be stopping by to brag about these numbers. I still think these survey numbers need a huge grain of salt when trying to apply it to overall market share.
     
  38. DanNeely

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    Simplified Chinese 52.24% -11.69%

    And the size of the distortion from Chinese gamers being overwhelmingly Win7/Intel/Nvidia vs the rest of the world shrank by a similar amount.

    I really wish Valve'd provide a way to filter the public data by nationality. *sigh*
     
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    Yay, monopolies!
     
  40. KazeoHin

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    hahahahaha nice, made me rofl.