Steam Deck officially announced by Valve

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I'll be glad if they replace Big Picture with this entirely, Big Picture was always clunky - Even with a controller.
 
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Also, you have to go through round-about ways to disable Big Picture when you press the Xbox button on the controller (even today).

If you want to shut off the Xbox gamepad, you hold the Xbox button, but after a few seconds, Big Picture appears. It's the worst experience ever and nothing in the Steam interface fixes it.

The only work around I know of is to set the Xbox button in Windows to launch the Game Bar, but then disable the Game Bar. This has the effect of disabling the Xbox button as well. But it's a joke you have to do this.
 
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Good news! I switched to Big Picture exactly once, fooled around a bit with a confused look on my face, and switched it back immediately. Glad the Deck UI will be more like a variation of the regular Steam UI.
 
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Cool vid. Contrary to my early assumptions it is indeed more modular than I thought it would be. I really like the idea of replaceable thumbsticks and the suggestion replacement parts will be available.

My favorite part is a comment made in the first 30 seconds - 'it is your PC and you have every right to do what you want with it'.
 

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The position of the M.2 2230 drive is kinda what I was expecting, the metal cover throws me for a bit of a loop. Part of me is hoping to get a riser to stick in it's place and run a cable to a typical 2280 board. I would expect eventually to do something like that. Maybe 3D print a back cover tho help facilitate that.
 

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Now that expansion if necessary is confirmed, I'm glad I got the 256GB one :p
If Valve can deliver as estimated (I'm still skeptical). I may get mine sooner too.
 

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Now that expansion if necessary is confirmed, I'm glad I got the 256GB one :p
If Valve can deliver as estimated (I'm still skeptical). I may get mine sooner too.
Considering you can run games off of a flash memory card and it includes 16GB of RAM there seems to be little incentive to upgrade the built in storage.
 

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Cool vid. Contrary to my early assumptions it is indeed more modular than I thought it would be. I really like the idea of replaceable thumbsticks and the suggestion replacement parts will be available.

My favorite part is a comment made in the first 30 seconds - 'it is your PC and you have every right to do what you want with it'.
It is pretty modular but it sounds like they make it pretty clear that the plastic framing on it isn't very sturdy and you will weaken the durability by opening it even once. From my experience, opening devices like this can leave undesired consequences (e.g. creaking frame, visible abrasion along plastic seam, and permanent damage from repeated openings). It could range from being no issue, to leaving your new Steam deck appearing and feeling very "used" before you've had the chance to enjoy it.
 

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"You probably shouldn't do this, but here's how to."

I love how they know people are going to be doing this anyway and decided it was better to help them rather than trying to lock it all down. All the more reason to buy stuff from Valve imo.
 

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Good news! I switched to Big Picture exactly once, fooled around a bit with a confused look on my face, and switched it back immediately. Glad the Deck UI will be more like a variation of the regular Steam UI.
It's a big improvement.

Big Picture massively improves with Deck UI replacing the old Big Picture UI.

The original Big Picture was an attempted solution for a very distant sofa far away from yesterday's SD and 480p/720p television sets. Big Picture looks like it was designed long before today's streaming services.

Today we have bigger and sharper 1080p and 4K HDTVs now, even for bottom barrel entry level TVs. And Deck UI is much closer to what a good Steam HTPC interface could be. Still looks good at 720p too.

In other words, Deck UI is what Big Picture should have been in the first place. Even for those who don't build dedicated HTPCs, the Deck UI being added to desktop Steam will also look great on gaming laptops now commonly used as impromptu gaming consoles whenever they're connected to TVs.

I look forward to seeing Deck UI come to all desktop Steam platforms as a Big Picture replacement.

It's very intuitive to anybody familiar with surfing modern streaming service layouts -- This complete Big Picture reboot (new Steam Deck UI) is supposed to be designed to be (eventually) universally intuitively operable by either keyboard, mouse, joystick, remote, gamepad, Wii-style pointing device, and even in-VR pointing devices, etc.

This UI is clearly inspired by streaming service UIs as well as recent console/VR app stores, in a much more proper UX design for away-from-desk use.

I imagine they'll bring Steam Deck UI into in-VR too at some point. The "floating curved app store window" currently used by competing in-VR app stores. The heavily rumored Steam standalone VR headset Valve seems very interested in building probably within a couple years or so. In many ways, Deck UI is also extremely similar to the floating in-VR Oculus Store user interface (on Oculus GO, Oculus Quest or Oculus Quest 2) for buying VR games while inside VR. Quite easily, this could be the SteamVR replacement in theory, even for PCVR.

Any streaming user / console user / standalone VR user -- will probably find the Steam Deck UI pretty familiar and easily jump right in despite never having used Steam before -- there is heavy inspirations by the modern UIs used today.

It also now finally conveniently doubles as a proper modern "Easy Mode" (with optional parental and purchase control) for Steam that you're comfortable letting younger, older, or otherwise less experienced family members use/abuse. Assuming enough settings flexibility is added, it looks like would also theoretically easy to adjust to create a kiosk mode (Steam Arcade Machine, anyone?)

It's possible they won't quite yet max out all of the potential (e.g. in-VR mode, kiosk mode, reduced-content Kids mode, etc) but it's got all the hallmarks of the proper 21st century content-buffet user interfaces completely ready to drop in to all of Valve's future projects.

Experienced PC users will still want to switch to the heavy duty Steam UI when at a desktop rig to surf the richness of Steam. But it's nice to say goodbye to the horrible old Big Picture mode that felt nearly useless.
 
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Yeah, I liked the idea of Big Picture, but the design was dated and horrible (even when it came out). Today it's a joke.

I mean, look at the interface on the PS5 or XSX, that is how you do it. The new Steam UI looks like it's going to be that good, but they waited quite a while to update it.
 

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I’m pretty sure I’m going to run Windows on this thing. I just don’t see why not, unless there are issues with performance or drivers / stability in Windows.
Even if many or most games run fine under proton, I don’t want to feel like there’s some I can’t play etc. Plus there’s xbox gold, and regular windows apps that I would like to use on this thing. From experience, Linux and proton can be finicky. I think Valve is doing the right thing with building a DB of compatible games but in the meanwhile everything I play now runs in Windows.
 
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