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i don't know... i think an incontrol/artosis combination would just be the bomb. Two really confident casters that are professional enough to play constructively off of each other, even though they disagree often.
NukeDukem
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Sorry for the noobish post but... How is SC 2 now compared to when it was first released? I was one of the ones who bought the game at the midnight release last year. I played a few of the single player missions, a few games online, and haven't touched it since. A few q's:
Is the game balanced between the races? I remember general consensus was that Terran was OP and Zerg UP.
Has BNET improved? I was really disgusted with the lack of chat rooms, lack of community, terrible custom map interface, basically everything that made original BNET so great was destroyed.
What's the scoop on the next installment, Heart of the Swarm?
Is there a clan system?
Is the game noob friendly at all?
Basically... I'm wondering if it's worth getting back into....
Is the game balanced between the races? I remember general consensus was that Terran was OP and Zerg UP.
Has BNET improved? I was really disgusted with the lack of chat rooms, lack of community, terrible custom map interface, basically everything that made original BNET so great was destroyed.
What's the scoop on the next installment, Heart of the Swarm?
Is there a clan system?
Is the game noob friendly at all?
Basically... I'm wondering if it's worth getting back into....
check out the gaming section at justin.tv, pretty much the whole starcraft community is streaming there so you can watch masters playing ladder, coaching, tourneys, etc. day9, gosu coaching, screddit, team liquid, evil genius, ogs crew, and most anyone on youtube has a jtv chan up. plenty of gsl/mlg/tourney pros ie. painuser, huk, idra, ogsmc have been streaming practice sessions every morning/night there lately.
silentsod
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Answers in order:
The game is new. Get better instead of bitching about balance.
Yes chat rooms, no everything else is slated to change.
It's not out yet.
No.
No, but you might be able to find practice partners at teamliquid.net
grendel240sx
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I'm starting w/ the Day9 newbie tuesday vids. I'm on the first one, it's very helpful but I see where you guys don't like him going off on tangents.
I got a friend at work that started recently, he should be similar skill to me so I'll try to get some games in vs him to practice.
Reinstalling sucks, 8 hour download ><
I got a friend at work that started recently, he should be similar skill to me so I'll try to get some games in vs him to practice.
Reinstalling sucks, 8 hour download ><
I may be one of the few who actually funds Husky entertaining, but when it comes to being learning Starcraft day9 is far and away the best. He doesn't get lost in terribly complex ideas, he keeps it simple and informative.
grilledcheese
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omg I HATE Day9!!! husky all the way
grendel240sx
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I'm on newbie tuesday vid#2 now, I've already learned quite a bit.
When I played my buddy from work he would rush me with zealots or fly in with void rays and even though I could look up the counters to those units it wouldn't help too much.
Day9 is explaining how to scout, and what to look for on this vid, this is exactly the kinda stuff I need right now.
udneekgnim
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I challenge you to a 1v1 in defense of Day9.
Yeah, his vids are great. Don't just watch the noobie Tuesday vids, you'll find great info all over. Heck, his Funday Monday vids have some interesting ideas too. I especially like the one where the players had to expand every 5 minutes, it showed how easy it was to win with good macro.
After you watch about 100 D9Ds, he's pretty much covering almost the same thing over and over again. It gets to a point where you're just watching them and you're not sure why any more. I like the guy, good personality and a strong caster. Some of the strategies are information, but talking about basic stuff like mechanics and what a timing is I don't need to hear about any more. Or certain strategic concepts like getting to a certain part of your plan, ect. All of that stuff is important, but after watching enough of them you should get to a point where you can learn new strategies and timings on your own. But again, I think that is the purpose of the daily, to make you into a Starcraft journeyman of sorts.
As for Husky, he's not a bad caster at all, but I don't get the obsession, he's not very informative. Different strokes for different folks I suppose. I really enjoyed him on State of the Game recently at PAX, if anything that made me a fan of him as a person.
As for Husky, he's not a bad caster at all, but I don't get the obsession, he's not very informative. Different strokes for different folks I suppose. I really enjoyed him on State of the Game recently at PAX, if anything that made me a fan of him as a person.
So... I like 3v3 and 4v4, but I have not played 3v3 in few months for no reason.
Today did around 5 games. 4 cheeses, 1 good game. In 2 games some child kept hiding buildings to prolong the game for 20 minutes by pausing the game constantly.
What's wrong with people?
Today did around 5 games. 4 cheeses, 1 good game. In 2 games some child kept hiding buildings to prolong the game for 20 minutes by pausing the game constantly.
What's wrong with people?
Yoshiyuki Blade
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Yeah, I always think of him as a college professor more than a caster. In fact, I think he sounds rather mild-mannered and unexciting when he does live casts around the world. But yeah, in class, I glance between the professor and the presentation material much like how Day9 switches between the camera and game. Professors also go on tangents here and there, so that's another similar feeling I get. Lastly, his style of teaching matches what many professors I've had emphasized: "I'm here to teach you to learn how to learn."
BTW, GSL finals in 3 hours!
Sixthsense
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Interesting, haven't seen that bug before, I wonder if massing thors getting stuck has been fixed
northrop
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Not the last time I played, lol. My Odin got to about +300 kills and haven't moved a pixel
Never played vs. AI, though.Really? It happens every time I try creating a game, and on two entirely different computers.
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I'm addicted to Phantom Mode.
Yoshiyuki Blade
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Dang.
MC crushes July 4-1. Amazing force field usage. Not a single HT or Colossus used!
Intel_Hydralisk
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Wow what the hell. July is probably going to have nightmares filled with many gateways. The games that July lost weren't even close and the one he won was sheer luck (MC lost two phoenixes for no reason, didn't even see the overlords despite air control, and where the hell was his void ray?). Games were definitely not that enjoyable to watch. Forcefield spam... nothing July can do... game over. I would hardly call the forcefield usage 'amazing'... any platinum level toss can do the same. You just spam it behind the front of the enemy army then go afk and watch your army win. Forcefielding the main ramp has been standard since beta. This was literally a textbook gateway spam slaughter which has been all too common lately.
I'm still trying to wrap my head around how July saw the DT inc. on crossfire. Wondering what tingled his korean senses... was it the subtle cloaked unit blur moving around across the map? Or was it his lings changing path slightly to move around the DT...
How I beat gateway indeed.
I'm still trying to wrap my head around how July saw the DT inc. on crossfire. Wondering what tingled his korean senses... was it the subtle cloaked unit blur moving around across the map? Or was it his lings changing path slightly to move around the DT...
How I beat gateway indeed.
Yoshiyuki Blade
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The way FFs were used is nothing new, for sure. But In the same Code S league, I've seen them used so clumsily. Sentries neglected and killed off easily, etc.
Highly disagreed about platinum players being able to FF perfectly. MC's FF decision making is amazing imo. FF must be done so that it doesnt overlap, you have to pull back to force his units to split further etc etc.. there's an art to it really
Yoshiyuki Blade
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There was also some great decision-making in g1 where, after he killed the expo, he let half of July's units go down the ramp before FF'ing the rest off again. Not sure why July would keep trying to send units down to a dead base, but I guess it was pretty much over at that point anyway. Still, MC remained cautious despite the huge advantage, not sloppily suiciding his units going up a ramp with a potentially deadly defense.
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I haven't kept up with the latest GSL. Where can I see the tournament ladder with matchups? What happened to the last champion? Immvp?
Yoshiyuki Blade
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He was knocked out of the Round of 32 this season. Then proceeded to get knocked down to Code A in the Up/Down matches.
Spare-Flair
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He was knocked out of the Round of 32 this season. Then proceeded to get knocked down to Code A in the Up/Down matches.
WOW! He was supposedly invincible last season. I think losing hopelessly to Squirtle's Protoss in the GSTL (even getting double mothershipped) might have brought him down to earth. Protoss is getting very powerful.
Yoshiyuki Blade
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Yeah, he faced two Protoss in the Up/Down matches. The up and coming SlayersS_Alicia and mvpGenius. He got knocked out of the Ro32 by getting 0-2 against ST_July though.
Intel_Hydralisk
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You honestly think those were perfect forcefields? It was literally forcefield overload. Make enough sentries with full energy that it doesn't matter. Your average diamond ladder player can pull that off.
grendel240sx
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So I got SC2 reinstalled, watched a few vids last night and played some games with a friend this morning (2v2 vs AI). I kept getting lost in my build.
I think I just need to play 1v1 vs the computer and practice the build up to maybe 20-25 and restart... I kept forgetting things like my gas building, forgetting supply depots, letting SCVs idle (friend came over and showed me the shift click after building, that helps a ton).
Kind of a frustrating game...
I think I just need to play 1v1 vs the computer and practice the build up to maybe 20-25 and restart... I kept forgetting things like my gas building, forgetting supply depots, letting SCVs idle (friend came over and showed me the shift click after building, that helps a ton).
Kind of a frustrating game...
Yoshiyuki Blade
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To me, it's the kind of game where you have to like it for what it is first, rather than trying to focus on getting good at it (competitively) first.
me too. just logged back in the other day for the first time since november 6th.
It requires practice, and the love for the game. For me it is a game I get enjoyment out of because I can see my progress as I get better.
It surely isn't a game you will master over night... not in a week ....not even in a month.
My friend and I played our first six games last night after not playing for a few months. To say the least, we got destroyed. I kind of wish we decayed out of gold league cause damn we suck now and it doesnt help getting wrecked by diamond players in the first few minutes of a game lol.