Starblazers has been rebooted! Starblazer 2199 and 2202 is cool.

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  1. ManofGod

    ManofGod [H]ardForum Junkie

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    I am not sure entirely if this is considered Tech News but, I figured some here would love this news as much as I have: https://www.funimation.com/shows/star-blazers/

    Basically, they have taken the Space Battleship Yamato 2199 and 2202 and have English speaking dialog throughout all the series. I have bought the Star Blazers 2199 Part 1 Bluray set from Best Buy and let me tell you, it is definitely worth every penny of the $42.99 plus tax that I payed for it.

    For those who do not know what Star Blazers is, it is the American adaptation of the Space Battleship Yamato anime from the 1970's. :) In my opinion, this is when true anime started and it was fantastic, a full on plot, purpose, characters that were relatable and a reason to always rush home and see it on TV.
     
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  2. sfsuphysics

    sfsuphysics I don't get it

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    Ehhhh looking back on these shows American brains of anime tend to be censored in some way, plus I think nostalgia factor made that show better than it actually was. I mean the number of drinking games you could make today, everytime they show a burning shot of the ship about to go "down" using the exact same footage take a drink, everyone the main cannon fires and does that repeat frame effect to give emphasis... also identical to every other time they do it, take a drink
     
  3. ManofGod

    ManofGod [H]ardForum Junkie

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    Yes but, this is an actual reboot of Space Battleship Yamato with English dubbing, which works pretty well.
     
  4. Derangel

    Derangel [H]ard as it Gets

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    Reusing animation happens a lot now days too. Its a time and cost saving measure often used for series where the same scene is going to be shown again and again, instead of reanimating the same exact scene over and over and over they'll reuse one piece of animation across multiple episodes.
     
  5. KD5ZXG

    KD5ZXG Limp Gawd

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    Uchuu Senkan Yamato 2199 didn't re-use any scenes that I've noticed.
    Unless you speak of opening, closing, preview, recap, and flashbacks.
    So, not more than 85% of it. Nothing you can't fast forward through...

    Was top notch anime all the way, with art details worthy of high def.
    Ships were a bit gonzo at times. (paint over CGI style, not company
    or porn of same name). I did find those CGI cheats slightly annoying.

    Also didn't notice anything like the original shooting down American
    planes that would be an obvious invitation to redact. Blood and death
    on broadcast TV (main means of distribution at the time) aren't quite
    the show stoppers they used to be. If you were wondering why you
    once drank to lot of the same explosions over used...

    Don't know how much of name and plot changes from Star Blazers
    would be carried over to this 2199 translation? Hopefully very few.
    Old Blazers being less translation than cut and paste to fit a dub
    that tells an entirely watered down westernized story.

    Also the matter of severe damage to the soundtrack when voices
    are removed. Funi voice director was my next door neighbor said
    that they rarely, more like never, get voice-free tracks to work with.
    Scenes lose intensity when the background music and action are
    ducked to further scrub the original Japanese voices. Original Nip
    audio with English subtitles would provide the best experience.

    Old Blazers dub was on a different level of sound quality. In that
    they didn't scrub voices, but re-recorded just about everything
    going on behind the voices as well. Complain about censorship
    that came with it, but nobody invests that sort of effort anymore.

    Yamato with Yamato opening music (per the original):

    Old Star Blazers music:

    Yamato with Blazers opening music (full circle back to Japanese):


    Blazers symphonic opening must have done something right, to
    have been adopted back to Japanese to become almost default.
    And I mean by second season of the original, nothing recent...



    Do I have the timeline wrong? Which was first with this music?

    A few American planes bite it. Fuel for censors back in 74...
    In no way balanced by an entire battleship sunk on thier side.


    Some 3000 crewmen lost, if the subtitles didn't exaggerate.
    According to Wikipidea: 2,498 of 2,700 crew-members died.
    Much as 4,200 lives lost counting whole Yamato task force.
    Numbers roughly seem to agree.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ten-Go
    10 US planes and 12 crew shot down, censors dare not show.
    What are we ashamed of here, that it wasn't more one-sided?
    Subtitles claim around 1000 American planes attacked. Does
    not quite agree with Wiki's count of 386. A full sky either way.

    Did thier worse to us by Kamikaze. Killing 85, wounding 122,
    and damaging three warships for the lives of around 115 pilots.
    Why they had only Kamikaze and no figher escort? That ugly
    part of the story, even they declined to show...

    Knowing is half the battle. Dying horribly often the other half.
    Thank your recruiter, son, and a glorious team of censors.
     
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  6. Hikaru IchijoSL

    Hikaru IchijoSL Limp Gawd

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    The names are all the original Japanese names. I am a huge fan of both the new and original series. Unlike the orignal starblazers, Yamato 2199 dub has no edits at all. I have only watched a few minutes of the dub, I am a subtitle watcher and the Japanese Yamato 2199 blu-rays had subs on them.
     
  7. ManofGod

    ManofGod [H]ardForum Junkie

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    Yeah, I am also trying to get used to the proper pronunciation of Yamato as well. :)
     
  8. DukenukemX

    DukenukemX [H]ardness Supreme

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    I read it thinking this was about Starbarians.

     
  9. KD5ZXG

    KD5ZXG Limp Gawd

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    You say Yamato, I say potato. And I'll be in Scotland before ye.

    Blazers also started a well founded fear that Americans would ruin thier shows in translation.
    Translators wanted to rename a Hellsing character from Arucard to Alucard, because it made
    more sense. Japanese refused on grounds that "Arucard" was "Dracura" spelled backward.
     
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    Where have you guys been? This thing launched a couple of years ago. :)

    Actually, 2199 is pretty darn high quality. The episodes are well written, the animation is top notch (make sure you get the 1080p versions it's worth it.) and it's clearly done as a labor of love. It works overtime at being a true upgrade of the original series.

    It's properly episodic with each episode telling a full piece of story, not the disjointed weekly anime stuff that some people just can't get into.

    If you like science fiction, this should be on your must watch list.
     
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  11. Hikaru IchijoSL

    Hikaru IchijoSL Limp Gawd

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    It is sometimes hard to listen to native English speakers using Japanese words or names.
    I totally agree Yamato 2199 is one of my top 5 favorite series.