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I think his was from Guru 3D, here's another one from last year as well:
Help me? I haven't asked for help with anything. And I noticed how you ignored the simple question of how old is that list. That's because you know that list has been updated and there is officially no games that aren't supposed to work in windows 11 with efficiency cores.
Didn't you mention that you never heard of issues with games and E-cores? You acted like this was never an issue....Well I posted a list of games that had issues with this design. So don't be so alarmed to find out its an issue when its been known for a long time.
Idk. They think people are excusing the faults when nobody is doing that. I think practically everyone here has said it's another shoddy port, but some are willing to trying to do workarounds to make it enjoyable for now. Just like most other ports. Also lol, apparently E cores can never ever have issues. Reviewers said so.
Which is why I listed games that did have issues. Just because YOU never heard of it doesn't mean it never happened.
I answered it for him. See my post above.
And I asked you how old that list was and you still can't answer. When I did research before getting my 13700k it was shown that officially there was not any games that were not supposed to have support.
Uhhhhhhhhh...... I just lost intelligence, I think... Your responses are damaging my psyche
There is a reason there is a bios setting on Intel motherboards for legacy stuff....It's for games/software that don't work well with the newer Intel CPU's. I guess the research you did or the youtube reviewers you watch left that part out.
The fact that after three times I've asked you to tell me how old that list is and you won't just shows me that is an outdated list but yet you're going to keep hammering on. So I'll say yet again when I did my research every single game on Windows 11 was supposed to be supported. Months before that there were some issues still but that list was updated and again there was no games listed when I got my CPU. If there was a game that had an issue, then you know damn well it's'some extremely rare exception that somehow somebody missed.
Yeah I finally had to ignore the troll. Hopefully we can get back on topic.
Agreed
Or you can maybe grow up and realize somebody else has a different opinion than yours. But you two keep jerking each other off and seem to be enjoying it so why stop now?
Hang on, let me break out the Crisco and KY. Gotta run home to get it, that way we won't have any chafing.
What's trolling is posting an outdated list and pretending like it's current and then just ignoring it when you're asked about it over and over.
You're a Troll, I will have nothing further to do with you, ever. Have a nice day.
With 12th gen, some games perform a little worse with E-cores on. Because the P cores and E core ring bus speed (cache speed) is connected. And with the e cores turned on, it downclocks the ring bus speed for the P cores. But, when you disable the e-cores, the P core ring bus clocks back up.
I think you misunderstand what the issue is and how its been mitigated over time. The initial issue was with DRM and Intel's 12th generation processors which was known to break some 50 games outright. Microsoft and Intel released updates to resolve these issues for the most part. There are still issues with Windows 10 and 12th/13th generation CPU's which boils down to the scheduler in Windows 10 not knowing what to do with E-cores and certain applications and games on those CPU's. This is why people will tell you that running Windows 11 with 12th and 13th generation Intel CPU's is basically a "must."
Then your research is incomplete. It is not as if game developers have been going back to games that are several years old and adding support for 12th and 13th generation CPU's. You can basically guarantee that anything released six months or more prior to the 12th generation Intel CPU release doesn't have "support" for processors that have E-cores and probably never will. Again, the Windows 11's scheduler was designed to address these issues and for the vast majority of games it does. However, there is literally a setting in the BIOS on every 600 and 700 series chipset board that allows you to enable a toggle (via scroll lock) to enable or disable E-Cores on the fly. You can also go into the BIOS and disable the E-cores in cases where they cause problems and no software updates or OS patches are available to resolve the issue.
Is the stutter with us in the room right now?
Troubleshooting potential issues is nonsense? You got into an argument because 2 people said they disabled E cores and it made things better. They didn't even say it was a widespread issue, but that hey, maybe it can pop up here and there.
So you went through everything I said and took that part out of context. Congratulations. What I was calling nonsense was the fact that a couple people gave me the impression that it's business as usual to still have problems with efficiency cores in several games and that maybe it would be better to have them off overall. That is complete nonsense and a horrible take for something that is an exception and not the norm. Just like when Spider-Man came out it had trouble with hyperthreading but overall it would have been stupid to turn it off system wide just because of one game having issues that eventually got fixed.
Sure, but it's easy to toggle. Is the stutter here in the room with us now?
But like...you can just hit a button apparently. It's not ideal, but whatever. It's a decent enough bypass for now.
Yep. It's literally a key press to toggle when you're launching, and another to turn it back on again once you're done. It couldn't be easier.
Occasionally it just shows up blank for me. I have to close and restart it for the store and all my games to show up. Also people have been complaining ever since it came out about how stuttery and sluggish it is. If you try to drag the window around, it will make you think you have your monitor on the wrong refresh rate because it's so sluggish. EA is well aware of it and don't seem to be concerned at all about fixing any of the complaints people have had.
When Jedi Survior (on Steam) told me it was uninstalling Origin and installing their new POS turd, I nearly threw my keyboard at my monitor.
Hope you don't lose that progress. Someone else in the thread had the same thing happen I believe.