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Star Citizen - media blowout, Chris Robert's new game

Getting ready to play this again. What kind of controller setup do you guys recommend?
 
DooKey said:
Getting ready to play this again. What kind of controller setup do you guys recommend?
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Dual sticks is the recommended setup, some people use an omni throttle for the left hand.

Pedals are good as well if you don’t want to have one of your movement controls on a twist axis.
 
Most recent run - got 4 bounties. Everything was working perfect.
On the 5th, I spontaneously exploded - but my debris took out the enemy, so it counted.
 
lopoetve said:
Most recent run - got 4 bounties. Everything was working perfect.
On the 5th, I spontaneously exploded - but my debris took out the enemy, so it counted.
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haha, nice. I'm just running some drugs in the c2 right now since hull scraping is broken and wave based bunkers aren't spawning.

I know 3.21 is in the PTU, and it fixes this shit, but I'm nearly 100% sure its gonna be held until citcon which sucks
 
Im just coming to chime in that i've taken a break since 3.18, my scorpius is resting in a hanger collecting dust. All this pyro talk has me hyped though. I'm ready to dust off my HOSAS and come back.
 
Some of the stuff in 3.21 PTU is exciting. It’s super optimistic but if the replication layer testing goes well they might have static server meshing in evocati testing by the end of the year I imagine.
 
BassTek said:
Some of the stuff in 3.21 PTU is exciting. It’s super optimistic but if the replication layer testing goes well they might have static server meshing in evocati testing by the end of the year I imagine.
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lets hope. And I use that word hope loosely. I also want to find a org that fits my style and I feel thats what ive been missing since i was playing. Im waiting for citizencon b4 reinstalling
 
Dan said:
lets hope. And I use that word hope loosely. I also want to find a org that fits my style and I feel thats what ive been missing since i was playing. Im waiting for citizencon b4 reinstalling
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I'll get my org to fit in your style, may only need a little lube ;)

Love seeing all my [H] family coming back. my in game is rg_Mekanic if anyone ever wants to team up for anything. I'm shit at PvP dogfighting, but down for antything else really.
 
DooKey said:
Getting ready to play this again. What kind of controller setup do you guys recommend?
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With SC, I feel you either go all or nothing - a minimum of two sticks, or stick to kb/m as they are incredibly well refined in this game for controls. Theres really no benefit to going a single stick or a stick/throttle over kb/m unless you just prefer to use them. For ease of play and what not, I find myself using KB/M occasionally when I want to go do something simple and dont want to drag the sticks out.

My Virpil stick is out for delivery today, have a WarBRD-D base and Constellation ALPHA Prime (R) grip. Very excited to get home from work and try it. Depending how much I like it will dictate the speed with which I replace my left stick :p
 
FighterAce124 said:
With SC, I feel you either go all or nothing - a minimum of two sticks, or stick to kb/m as they are incredibly well refined in this game for controls. Theres really no benefit to going a single stick or a stick/throttle over kb/m unless you just prefer to use them. For ease of play and what not, I find myself using KB/M occasionally when I want to go do something simple and dont want to drag the sticks out.

My Virpil stick is out for delivery today, have a WarBRD-D base and Constellation ALPHA Prime (R) grip. Very excited to get home from work and try it. Depending how much I like it will dictate the speed with which I replace my left stick :p
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Agreed. KB/M works well once you're used to it and remap a few things to fit your style. Dual stick also works great. HOTAS is ... weird. 3d movement and all - it's not an airplane.
 
Buddy brought to my attention yesterday that there is the F8C event in game with some tickets randomly scattered in loot that give you a 1 day free rental and the opportunity to buy the ship on the store.
I got home, *first thing I opened* had my F8C gold ticket in it! Went and traded it in, unlocked the purchase on the store, will be buying the warbond later today!

I never expected to own an F8C until the game was live someday. Was going to melt some stuff to buy the credit version, but I wont ever get rid of the F8, and its not able to be CCUd to, so figure its worth the expense to get the greatest fighter ever with LTI through warbond instead.
 
FighterAce124 said:
Buddy brought to my attention yesterday that there is the F8C event in game with some tickets randomly scattered in loot that give you a 1 day free rental and the opportunity to buy the ship on the store.
I got home, *first thing I opened* had my F8C gold ticket in it! Went and traded it in, unlocked the purchase on the store, will be buying the warbond later today!

I never expected to own an F8C until the game was live someday. Was going to melt some stuff to buy the credit version, but I wont ever get rid of the F8, and its not able to be CCUd to, so figure its worth the expense to get the greatest fighter ever with LTI through warbond instead.
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Ooh. Shiny.
 
FighterAce124 said:
Buddy brought to my attention yesterday that there is the F8C event in game with some tickets randomly scattered in loot that give you a 1 day free rental and the opportunity to buy the ship on the store.
I got home, *first thing I opened* had my F8C gold ticket in it! Went and traded it in, unlocked the purchase on the store, will be buying the warbond later today!

I never expected to own an F8C until the game was live someday. Was going to melt some stuff to buy the credit version, but I wont ever get rid of the F8, and its not able to be CCUd to, so figure its worth the expense to get the greatest fighter ever with LTI through warbond instead.
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Ya I was pretty happy about that as well, I didn’t expect to get one until SQ42 released.
 
FighterAce124 said:
Buddy brought to my attention yesterday that there is the F8C event in game with some tickets randomly scattered in loot that give you a 1 day free rental and the opportunity to buy the ship on the store.
I got home, *first thing I opened* had my F8C gold ticket in it! Went and traded it in, unlocked the purchase on the store, will be buying the warbond later today!

I never expected to own an F8C until the game was live someday. Was going to melt some stuff to buy the credit version, but I wont ever get rid of the F8, and its not able to be CCUd to, so figure its worth the expense to get the greatest fighter ever with LTI through warbond instead.
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Glad you were able to get your F8C! I admit its...lets say controversial to say the least. I have no problem with the event, but I am very annoyed at the new exclusive skins (particularly the one for the Platinum tickets, which are seemingly going mostly to streamers. Let the Platinum ticket just be a free LTI F8C and that would solve a lot of the issues) and some other issues of frustration with how it is handled. I've always been an advocate for how especially early on Star Citizen was against exclusivity/FOMO nonsense typical in many item mall/gacha MMOs. Even the cosmetics were made available in game in many cases, with very few exceptions. However, there are some notably issues and I'm worried the longer things go on the more people who lack Roberts' VISION(TM) will try to push typical FOMO cosmetic sale monetization.

Even someone with the Executive Edition skin (at the moment, 15K+ backed) should expect that players will be able to unlock it in game (albeit through a level of difficulty to make it warranted, such as completing SQ42 on hard which unlocks a mission chain in SC after you reach max faction with the manufacturer Anvil, which when completely will grant you the EE livery kit in thanks), as I advocate. Not only making the F8C available now to current players, but with several exclusive skins - including one that even the people who spent a fortune apparently don't get - needs to be resolved by at very least a clear statement that the Exec Edition and Stormfire skins will be available otherwise in the game post launch, and/or during other events. It would also help to make those available to existing backers/owners who have the EE to pick up the Stormfire for a pittance if they wish it. There's a lot of frustration from all sides with a sort of incomplete setup that neither validates extremely rare exclusivity predicated on big spending or event only, nor is it clear that all of these parameters will be available openly either currently or in time. It seems there are several compromises that would make the vast majority happy, but I guess we'llsee how things evolve.

Keep in mind that as far as the ship alone is concerned, it will still be unlockable for SQ42 completion according to the FAQ, so that has not changed. The real issue is more about the varied cosmetics and their availability or lack thereof.
 
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RanceJustice said:
Glad you were able to get your F8C! I admit its...lets say controversial to say the least. I have no problem with the event, but I am very annoyed at the new exclusive skins (particularly the one for the Platinum tickets, which are seemingly going mostly to streamers. Let the Platinum ticket just be a free LTI F8C and that would solve a lot of the issues) and some other issues of frustration with how it is handled. I've always been an advocate for how especially early on Star Citizen was against exclusivity/FOMO nonsense typical in many item mall/gacha MMOs. Even the cosmetics were made available in game in many cases, with very few exceptions. However, there are some notably issues and I'm worried the longer things go on the more people who lack Roberts' VISION(TM) will try to push typical FOMO cosmetic sale monetization.

Even someone with the Executive Edition skin (at the moment, 15K+ backed) should expect that players will be able to unlock it in game (albeit through a level of difficulty to make it warranted, such as completing SQ42 on hard which unlocks a mission chain in SC after you reach max faction with the manufacturer Anvil, which when completely will grant you the EE livery kit in thanks), as I advocate. Not only making the F8C available now to current players, but with several exclusive skins - including one that even the people who spent a fortune apparently don't get - needs to be resolved by at very least a clear statement that the Exec Edition and Stormfire skins will be available otherwise in the game post launch, and/or during other events. It would also help to make those available to existing backers/owners who have the EE to pick up the Stormfire for a pittance if they wish it. There's a lot of frustration from all sides with a sort of incomplete setup that neither validates extremely rare exclusivity predicated on big spending or event only, nor is it clear that all of these parameters will be available openly either currently or in time. It seems there are several compromises that would make the vast majority happy, but I guess we'llsee how things evolve.

Keep in mind that as far as the ship alone is concerned, it will still be unlockable for SQ42 completion according to the FAQ, so that has not changed. The real issue is more about the varied cosmetics and their availability or lack thereof.
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Thats far too much thought and care put by people into cosmetics.
I imagined there would be an uproar from the people who got it with the high level concierge solely on the fact that it went from something only they had at the moment and others would have to earn down the line to everyone being able to get it with no effort.
But to be angry over cosmetics and such, wtf lol

The SC community never ceases to amaze me, for good or worse.

Edit - dont get me wrong, if I can pick up a limited cosmetic and I like it, I will - but I dont care about it before and after, nor do I care if one is released that I can never get. I am building a very nice ILW skin set though? lol
 
I got my golden ticket, didn't get to fly it too much before the rental ended, and apparently you can only rent it one time which is a bummer.

Its a mean ship thats fo sho. And I don't have a combat pledge. However I'm very on the fence. I do not PvP, and I'm really wondering how effective it will be after armor mechanics are put into the game. Will it be better to have larger guns?
 
I've been waiting for this game for 10 years! I see a forum post or article and I'm reminded about it. I get excited all over again and go see where it's at. Today it is still in alpha and still not completed... Guess I'll be reminded in another year or two and I'll check again. :arghh:
 
rgMekanic said:
I got my golden ticket, didn't get to fly it too much before the rental ended, and apparently you can only rent it one time which is a bummer.

Its a mean ship thats fo sho. And I don't have a combat pledge. However I'm very on the fence. I do not PvP, and I'm really wondering how effective it will be after armor mechanics are put into the game. Will it be better to have larger guns?
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Heres the thing..... against light or medium targets, you arent going to outdo the raw DPS, and most of those targets are not going to have armor thick enough for it to make a meaningful difference.
The F8C is an anti-fighter heavy fighter - its not for hard hitting penetrating attacks on heavy armor - thats what things like the Vanguard are for with the S5, as s5 is the first size for heavy ship weapons - there is a massive damage difference between s4 and 5 weapons.
Against a heavier armored target like a Harbinger for example, the F8C has more than enough raw output and enough penetration as well as maneuverability that it should cripple all but the most protected sections, able to disable the ship with ease. And you, ideally, would not be using an F8C against anything heavier than another heavy fighter like the vanguard in its designed role as a superiority fighter.

Think of the F8C as the HH of fighters, Its primary place is trouncing other fighters, not poking the big boys. Its supposed to stay near your big ships and protect them in large battles, or seek out enemy fighters doing the same.

In the game as it is today without full armor, the F8C can easily kill anything and everything without much effort, just increasing time as the enemy gets bigger. Still not unduly long, as the 8-10 guns on it outputs so much its near equal/above to a vanguard in damage if not penetration
 
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FighterAce124 said:
Heres the thing..... against light or medium targets, you arent going to outdo the raw DPS, and most of those targets are not going to have armor thick enough for it to make a meaningful difference.
The F8C is an anti-fighter heavy fighter - its not for hard hitting penetrating attacks on heavy armor - thats what things like the Vanguard are for with the S5, as s5 is the first size for heavy ship weapons - there is a massive damage difference between s4 and 5 weapons.
Against a heavier armored target like a Harbinger for example, the F8C has more than enough raw output and enough penetration as well as maneuverability that it should cripple all but the most protected sections, able to disable the ship with ease. And you, ideally, would not be using an F8C against anything heavier than another heavy fighter like the vanguard in its designed role as a superiority fighter.

Think of the F8C as the HH of fighters, Its primary place is trouncing other fighters, not poking the big boys. Its supposed to stay near your big ships and protect them in large battles, or seek out enemy fighters doing the same.

In the game as it is today without full armor, the F8C can easily kill anything and everything without much effort, just increasing time as the enemy gets bigger. Still not unduly long, as the 8-10 guns on it outputs so much its near equal/above to a vanguard in damage if not penetration
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This. Flew it a bit today - thing handles like a damned dream. It's truly a the fighter-killer, and will irritate the shit out of bigger things with that many guns on it. If you want to kill bigger targets, get a Vanguard - Warden or Harbinger equipped right will do the job - this is for smacking around anything its size or smaller. I'm actually impressed that they gave it a clearly defined niche that it not only fits into from a design perspective, but also from an actual functionality perspective. Seriously considering.
 
So the Kickstarter ended in 2012, but they haven't shipped out any of the physical backer rewards 11 years later? But have opened a store and sell new merch?

Do I have that correct? o_O
 
Pringle said:
So that seems pretty shitty. Thanks for confirming!
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Thats nice, thanks for your observation. Nobody else in the history of this thread has made such an observation, oh man I must re-evaluate my entire life now.

What have I done?!
 
Pringle said:
So the Kickstarter ended in 2012, but they haven't shipped out any of the physical backer rewards 11 years later? But have opened a store and sell new merch?

Do I have that correct? o_O
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This isn't actually true. They just haven't shipped the physical ones that went along with the full and completed game, like the physical boxed game, boxed collector's editions, signed CEs etc.. which makes sense because you'd need to have a completed game. Thats its own argument and I'm not going to rehash it here, however.

They did ship other physical stuff years ago, including the physical "citizen cards" , that everyone got so long as they backed a full copy of he game at the time, at $30-40+. There were a few other early physical bonuses that were shipped too for original/veteran backers, and of course the digital ones were provided. As far as later merch,it was mostly stuff completely unrelated to the crowdfunding campaigns or early original backer stuff; they even gave early backers discounted or sometimes even free other stuff (ie the Constellation model among others), so it wasn't like backers didn't a benefit for even stuff after the campaign. Also they had at least 2 if not 3 later Citizen Card issues, so those that missed on the original or wanted to upgrade given they hit another pledge tier since could do so. So they did deliver physical rewards, many of them long long ago.

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RanceJustice said:
This isn't actually true. They just haven't shipped the physical ones that went along with the full and completed game, like the physical boxed game, boxed collector's editions, signed CEs etc.. which makes sense because you'd need to have a completed game. Thats its own argument and I'm not going to rehash it here, however.

They did ship other physical stuff years ago, including the physical "citizen cards" , that everyone got so long as they backed a full copy of he game at the time, at $30-40+. There were a few other early physical bonuses that were shipped too for original/veteran backers, and of course the digital ones were provided. As far as later merch,it was mostly stuff completely unrelated to the crowdfunding campaigns or early original backer stuff; they even gave early backers discounted or sometimes even free other stuff (ie the Constellation model among others), so it wasn't like backers didn't a benefit for even stuff after the campaign. Also they had at least 2 if not 3 later Citizen Card issues, so those that missed on the original or wanted to upgrade given they hit another pledge tier since could do so. So they did deliver physical rewards, many of them long long ago.
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Ahhh got ya, thanks for the lore! Those physical cards are pretty sweet.
 
rgMekanic said:
Been boring as shit for this first panel, but I knew it would be. Its basically a sales pitch for the engine.
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I have to give them credit for the technical deep dives into what's being worked on. While for CitCon and other events its often made more accessible and interesting for a larger audience (ie some demo stuff), the technical detail is still there when talking about stuff like the engine, the various types of stacking tech necessary to build what they envision , and even when/how things that went wrong were resolved.
 
Was desiring a space game last month and gave STAR CITIZEN a go. Stopped playing after 10 minutes and uninstalled when I couldn't figure out how to get at out of the room. Seriously needs a tutorial.
 
TangledThornz said:
Was desiring a space game last month and gave STAR CITIZEN a go. Stopped playing after 10 minutes and uninstalled when I couldn't figure out how to get at out of the room. Seriously needs a tutorial.
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It does have a tutorial. Did you skip it?
 
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