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Star Citizen - media blowout, Chris Robert's new game

Meeho said:
Now seriously, do you guys not find it troubling at all that it is 11/2015 and they have nothing to show of SQ42 to one of the biggest gaming magazines besides editor shots and marketing talk? A big and complex game that is supposed to come out in 2016 and they have nothing working to show of it. Is your devotion so blind that you can just brush away and justify any and all warning signs and come out with a positive justification for anything? Or do you just not care how much money, time and broken promises it will take to get it out? Can CIG seriously do no wrong in your eyes?
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Jesus Christ, I got blocked and called a troll for voicing serious doubts and pointing out all the glaring issues with this sham back then, an now I've realized it's almost A DECADE later and nothing has changed!
 
Meeho said:
Jesus Christ, I got blocked and called a troll for voicing serious doubts and pointing out all the glaring issues with this sham back then, an now I've realized it's almost A DECADE later and nothing has changed!
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I got banned from posting on their forums for 10 years for something similar back in 2013! Jokes on them, here we are 10 years later and this pos still hasn't released! Gonna go in there and shitpost about it and have the last laugh.
 
Vega said:
lol logged on after years away and still NPC's standing on top of railings and furniture doing absolutely nothing. Like nothing has changed.
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Well if that's your measure for a good game you'll be excited to know that it is fixed in 3.20.
 
rgMekanic said:
🤷 I like the game. I have a bunch of fun in it. Play nearly every night with a couple friends. Every new thing getting added just makes it better and more to do.
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but but but scam!

Stop liking things I dont like!!! 😡



Look, we cant convince the shitposters that the game is anything but a scam, so its easier not to try any more. Ill continue to get my hundreds of hours of entertainment each year while watching the game grow and enjoying it more by the patch, and they can stay angry and butthurt over imagined issues all they want with no end in sight.
You saw the one who clearly has no idea what hes angry about make false statements about the PTU change, that should be the most recent reminder that they dont know anything and dont really care.
 
FighterAce124 said:
but but but scam!

Stop liking things I dont like!!! 😡



Look, we cant convince the shitposters that the game is anything but a scam, so its easier not to try any more. Ill continue to get my hundreds of hours of entertainment each year while watching the game grow and enjoying it more by the patch, and they can stay angry and butthurt over imagined issues all they want with no end in sight.
You saw the one who clearly has no idea what hes angry about make false statements about the PTU change, that should be the most recent reminder that they dont know anything and dont really care.
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Gotta agree. I'm writing this, alt tabbed from running bunkers in the Carrack I bought last night :D
 
rgMekanic said:
Whats your name in game? I'll show you around. We can do any gameplay you want to try ;)
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Some of us didn't get conned ;) and watched sheep get fleeced, then deciding not to do so ourselves. I can witness someone get burnt and know the fire is hot without touching it myself. Also, I don't comingle my forums with my gaming.
 
GoldenTiger said:
Some of us didn't get conned ;) and watched sheep get fleeced, then deciding not to do so ourselves. I can witness someone get burnt and know the fire is hot without touching it myself. Also, I don't comingle my forums with my gaming.
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So.... you, like others, have no actual knowledge of the game state or what it has to offer, just the same tired lies.

I rest my case.

And relapse808 , you indeed made baseless claims that were 100% false less than a page ago, and dont even have the humility to admit you made stuff up when called on it. I bet I could dig up half a dozen provably false statements you have made with little effort in here. Stop making things up to try and support your blind hatred.
Its perfectly fine to just say "I dont like the game and never will" instead of falsifying reasons.
 
FighterAce124 said:
So.... you, like others, have no actual knowledge of the game state or what it has to offer, just the same tired lies.

I rest my case.

And relapse808 , you indeed made baseless claims that were 100% false less than a page ago, and dont even have the humility to admit you made stuff up when called on it. I bet I could dig up half a dozen provably false statements you have made with little effort in here. Stop making things up to try and support your blind hatred.
Its perfectly fine to just say "I dont like the game and never will" instead of falsifying reasons.
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There are plenty of gameplay videos to peruse that show exactly what the state of the "game" is. It's still no more than an experimental sandbox with a litany of technical issues, not to mention no structure that one could confuse with a game. What can you do besides random activities? Is there a goal that you're trying to achieve? Does that goal have any impact on your character in the game aside from acquiring more "stuff?"
 
I only pledged to SC like 3 months ago, before that I was like the others calling it a complete scam, you can check my post history if you want. I don't white knight this game at all. It's missing so much shit that was promised YEARS ago, and I will never use the bullshit "well its aaalphaa" argument, because its been a fucking decade, and the game is advertised as playable NOW. It was stretch goaled into oblivion. Chris Roberts has a history of this shit and needs to be forced to step down to get actual progress out the door. Its got a ton of bugs. A lot of them you can work around, not many game breaking, but all annoying.

That said. I judge it on what is playable now. Last night a friend and myself ran a bunch of bunker missions in ArcCorp to raise rep with them, as I'm tired of the long flight in and out of atmosphere doing bunkers in Microtech. Friday night another friend and I were doing service beacons, then went asteroid mining for a while. A group and I went to Ghost Hollow and did PvP for a while locking it down. When solo I go exploring for hidden areas and caves, or do rescues of other players who have been incapacitated. Sometimes I'll salvage ships, solo or with a group. There is a LOT to do.
Armenius said:
What can you do besides random activities? Is there a goal that you're trying to achieve? Does that goal have any impact on your character in the game aside from acquiring more "stuff?"
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You just described at least 70% of games right now. Basically, any game that isn't narrative. Take your quote, apply it to GTAOnline. CoD. Fortnite. Diablo after campaign. Literally any MMO.
Armenius said:
There are plenty of gameplay videos to peruse that show exactly what the state of the "game" is.
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Here's the state of the game. If this is what you want the game to be.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53qGEaPRHCQ
 
Armenius said:
There are plenty of gameplay videos to peruse that show exactly what the state of the "game" is. It's still no more than an experimental sandbox with a litany of technical issues, not to mention no structure that one could confuse with a game. What can you do besides random activities? Is there a goal that you're trying to achieve? Does that goal have any impact on your character in the game aside from acquiring more "stuff?"
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Im not really sure what to tell you - as with most large open world, open ended games - there are quests you can do. Theres a few storylines around the verse that are 5-15 missions.

The bulk of the gameplay is, and will always be, using the mechanics provided in the game to play out your own events.... my org does 10+ events a week, helps host the Daymar Rally, etc etc.... I literally cant list all of the events we do, but incorporate all of the play loops and 50-100 people all have a great time for 2-4 hours, every night of the week.
SC is not an Elder Scrolls game. Its not intended to be a narrative driven game. That game is called Squadron 42, and is also not anywhere near release. But expecting the single player experience in an open framework world doesnt work well.

Dont expect SQ42 type gameplay and story from SC. They are different games and purposes.\


And again, the complaints are based from people wanting SC to be a different game than it is designed to be. You want a narrative story driven, play SQ42 when it is released. You want an open world sandbox, you play SC. Dont expect an open sandbox to hold your hand for every thing you can do.
 
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I'm of the opinion you cannot convince the naysayers they are wrong and you cannot convince the yaysayers they are wrong. So I dont bother with either. Just my own opinion which doesn't matter to anyone but myself.
 
I'm at the point I'm excited for the wipe lol. Hopefully citcon has some good shit to show, that actually comes true.
 
3.20 been a bit of a shit show. Said they rushed it out to start work on the 3.20.x patches. Hopefully they come soon. Bringing a bunch of cool stuff
 
rgMekanic said:
3.20 been a bit of a shit show. Said they rushed it out to start work on the 3.20.x patches. Hopefully they come soon. Bringing a bunch of cool stuff
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*shrug* Ive had two play sessions, yesterday late evening and today mid afternoon, both ~3-5 hours long... on the same server, with zero issues. It honestly surprised me a bit. Done a little bit here and there aside from these two, but most are 20-40min bursts lol

Im not using the new stuff though, because thats just asking for trouble (New cargo related stuff, Hull C, etc). Doing deliveries, bounties, med beacons, the good ol' normal stuff has been amazingly smooth.

I've loaded my Carrack up with a C8R + Fury in the hangar and an ursa in the garage. I originally had the Fury in the garage. but realized with no effort at all the hangar is large enough to park and access both very comfortably. Allows use of the Fury both faster and with less effort - the garage is not very tall :p
Been flying the Carrack to general areas and then doing the missions locally with the snubs. Having a ball, scattered "stuff" around the carrack to make it feel more lived in and it has all persisted through logins and landings and quants and all, not even moving. Couple weapons and ammo scattered around, stuffed animals in random places, drinks or food here and there, other random decorations I have for some reason, etc

In general stability and established gameplay, this patch is shockingly solid.

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I did have a pretty awesome "Oh fuck how do I get out I dont want to die" moment.
Flying my Harbinger, fighting a player bounty in atmosphere ~4500m up. Workin em over, hes workin me. My shields are up, hull is in good condition the fucker comes in from above and gets.... something.... that detonates my power core. I dont know whether it was a missile or what, but since the shields on the vanguard are fore/aft and not bubble.. he managed to hit something proper good from above through the armor plate.
Everything goes out. It doesnt go dark though. Fire is spewing out of the control panel, lights around and flashing. Sparks and other fires around the cockpit. Ship is spinning, my only thought is "get the fuck out"
Hop out of seat, instantly slammed into the wall and bounced around the cockpit - duh, the grav gen is out without power, and the ship is also spinning like a fucking top. Vision starts to clear, the ship has settled into an upside down "leaf" fall. I get up and charge toward the rear.
Where the exit ramp is now above me, with no way in hell to get up through the opening if I can open it.
Went back into the main compartment of the harbinger, spun around looking for anything. "Aha!!! Ill get in the bed! maybe thatll do something somehow!" only for the remains of the craft to slam into the ground killing me :D
 
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FighterAce124 said:
*shrug* Ive had two play sessions, yesterday late evening and today mid afternoon, both ~3-5 hours long... on the same server, with zero issues. It honestly surprised me a bit. Done a little bit here and there aside from these two, but most are 20-40min bursts lol

Im not using the new stuff though, because thats just asking for trouble (New cargo related stuff, Hull C, etc). Doing deliveries, bounties, med beacons, the good ol' normal stuff has been amazingly smooth.

I've loaded my Carrack up with a C8R + Fury in the hangar and an ursa in the garage. I originally had the Fury in the garage. but realized with no effort at all the hangar is large enough to park and access both very comfortably. Allows use of the Fury both faster and with less effort - the garage is not very tall :p
Been flying the Carrack to general areas and then doing the missions locally with the snubs. Having a ball, scattered "stuff" around the carrack to make it feel more lived in and it has all persisted through logins and landings and quants and all, not even moving. Couple weapons and ammo scattered around, stuffed animals in random places, drinks or food here and there, other random decorations I have for some reason, etc

In general stability and established gameplay, this patch is shockingly solid.

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I did have a pretty awesome "Oh fuck how do I get out I dont want to die" moment.
Flying my Harbinger, fighting a player bounty in atmosphere ~4500m up. Workin em over, hes workin me. My shields are up, hull is in good condition the fucker comes in from above and gets.... something.... that detonates my power core. I dont know whether it was a missile or what, but since the shields on the vanguard are fore/aft and not bubble.. he managed to hit something proper good from above through the armor plate.
Everything goes out. It doesnt go dark though. Fire is spewing out of the control panel, lights around and flashing. Sparks and other fires around the cockpit. Ship is spinning, my only thought is "get the fuck out"
Hop out of seat, instantly slammed into the wall and bounced around the cockpit - duh, the grav gen is out without power, and the ship is also spinning like a fucking top. Vision starts to clear, the ship has settled into an upside down "leaf" fall. I get up and charge toward the rear.
Where the exit ramp is now above me, with no way in hell to get up through the opening if I can open it.
Went back into the main compartment of the harbinger, spun around looking for anything. "Aha!!! Ill get in the bed! maybe thatll do something somehow!" only for the remains of the craft to slam into the ground killing me :D
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THat is awesome, sounds like a super fun fight. I've never had a module get popped yet, but I don't do much PvP at all.

Issues I've been running into mainly is hull scraping is nerfed to shit, took me near 40 minutes to scrape a cutty black in my reclaimer... and I got 4 boxes. The other thing thats been shitty is there is something going on with the carrack to where the framerate gets cut in half or more when in the cockpit, https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-84206 contribute if you can haha.

The other annoyance is with the new larger boxes, Carrack is boned unless they make the cargo modules open up.
 
rgMekanic said:
THat is awesome, sounds like a super fun fight. I've never had a module get popped yet, but I don't do much PvP at all.

Issues I've been running into mainly is hull scraping is nerfed to shit, took me near 40 minutes to scrape a cutty black in my reclaimer... and I got 4 boxes. The other thing thats been shitty is there is something going on with the carrack to where the framerate gets cut in half or more when in the cockpit, https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-84206 contribute if you can haha.

The other annoyance is with the new larger boxes, Carrack is boned unless they make the cargo modules open up.
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Im pretty sure the Carrack cargo does not open at all when on the ship, even when fully functioning as intended.
The three cargo bays are completely detachable and swappable module slots - you just drop the cargo bay to be filled up when that is functional. Until then, yeah, probably no chance to use anything but small ones.
I could be very wrong, I never actually went down into the cargo containers floor level to look around, but they look pretty solid to me and not designed to open anywhere.

Of course, once the bays are modular, you get the fun on what replacement modules they'll have. I never bothered to look into what options they have already talked about/confirmed for it.


I did all my work to live in my Carrack, I loaded it up, doing missions....
And I promptly exited my Fury while in atmo because "Oh Ill just float over to close the hangar door", without thinking that the very edge of atmo is still atmo.
I fell out and ever so slowly started to fall away from my ships.

Not the end of the world, yeah? Ill die, and respawn in the Carrack, thats the whole purpose of living out of it right? Can then fly down and get my stuff, oh yeah great!
No, my stoned ass panicked and Alt-F4d. Because "thatll save the gear im wearing! Ill wake up in the hospital still wearing it!"
And lose my stocked ships in the process as they were left unattended and despawned.

I quit, hung my head in shame, and have been sad about my stupidity ever since.
 
FighterAce124 said:
Im pretty sure the Carrack cargo does not open at all when on the ship, even when fully functioning as intended.
The three cargo bays are completely detachable and swappable module slots - you just drop the cargo bay to be filled up when that is functional. Until then, yeah, probably no chance to use anything but small ones.
I could be very wrong, I never actually went down into the cargo containers floor level to look around, but they look pretty solid to me and not designed to open anywhere.

Of course, once the bays are modular, you get the fun on what replacement modules they'll have. I never bothered to look into what options they have already talked about/confirmed for it.


I did all my work to live in my Carrack, I loaded it up, doing missions....
And I promptly exited my Fury while in atmo because "Oh Ill just float over to close the hangar door", without thinking that the very edge of atmo is still atmo.
I fell out and ever so slowly started to fall away from my ships.

Not the end of the world, yeah? Ill die, and respawn in the Carrack, thats the whole purpose of living out of it right? Can then fly down and get my stuff, oh yeah great!
No, my stoned ass panicked and Alt-F4d. Because "thatll save the gear im wearing! Ill wake up in the hospital still wearing it!"
And lose my stocked ships in the process as they were left unattended and despawned.

I quit, hung my head in shame, and have been sad about my stupidity ever since.
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Oooh that sucks man. Always a pain in the ass resetting ships like the carrack.

Previous patch my A2 was loaded with my c8r, an ursa, a cyclone, and all gun racks filled, tons of ammo and med stuff in external storage. Only ship I wouldn't lend out lol
 
Still buggy as hell. Let me know when they fix some major issues and I'll return again. Hasn't been playable since 3.17

In an hour I completed two bounties.
I also spontaneously exploded leaving ArcCorp hanger in area 18.

Got a trespassing charge from the debris/my corpse falling through the ground and apparently crossing into "illegal territory".

Paid to get my ship back. Paid the fine for the trespassing.

Got my first bounty done - found out they remapped half the controls for the hell of it (WTF?). Hit z to freelook in quantum and promptly stood up and out of my ship - while still in quantum. That is the freelook button - it just bugged in the gladius apparently. Suicided.

Claimed gladius, took out the arrow. Got to my second and hit another trespassing bug, which resulted in me getting blown up in about 5 seconds from something with a FUCK load of a lot more power than my arrow had (since my gladius was still in claim status). BlackJack paid me - and then blew me up.

And with that, they sent me to Klesher.

D-. Would not play 3.20. Let me know when someone hits chris roberts with a used dildo till he starts patching bugs and stops fucking around.

edit: Forgot the explosion from hitting a floating mattress in the hanger in arccorp too. A second time.
 
Oh, and so I went back in. Got stopped for police scans 5 times. Failed a contract because - yup, once again, trespassing - in NINE TAILS territory.

This is actually the worst patch I've ever seen from CIG. Not sure what that moron is doing over there, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't involve making a game right now.

Stop wasting time with shitty cons and get back to programming folks.
 
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