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Star Citizen - media blowout, Chris Robert's new game

They are having a "Fly Free" event where for the next few days it's a free download. Of course, $200M+ gets you a slow-as-heck installer download (100MB, took several minutes), and I can't get it to install, it just errors after the 12+GB download. Might be cuz I'm using a non-default install location, gonna try one more time before I give up and pretend none of this happened.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/promotions/37-Free-Fly
 
I'm installed on a non-standard location, the only thing I could think of is launch the loader from the same drive you are going to install on?
 
DWolvin said:
I'm installed on a non-standard location, the only thing I could think of is launch the loader from the same drive you are going to install on?
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I tried removing everything and letting it install with zero changes to anything. Error after download. If they can't get the installer right, I can't really be bothered. I moved on.
 
SuperSubZero said:
I tried removing everything and letting it install with zero changes to anything. Error after download. If they can't get the installer right, I can't really be bothered. I moved on.
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It downloads at full connection speeds as long as you're connection doesnt suck - I've had it do 400mb/s when I was on a connection that fast. And it works fine on non-standard install directory, as I've had mine on three different drives at different times. If it's not working, I would lean toward it being an issue specific to your setup rather than an issue from the RSI launcher, which works perfectly fine for many thousands of other people.
 
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It downloads at full connection speeds as long as you're connection doesnt suck - I've had it do 400mb/s when I was on a connection that fast. And it works fine on non-standard install directory, as I've had mine on three different drives at different times. If it's not working, I would lean toward it being an issue specific to your setup rather than an issue from the RSI launcher, which works perfectly fine for many thousands of other people.
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I've seen this same thing mentioned on their reddit. There was no solid solution. My gaming rig is a plain ol' 4790K with an OS drive and data drive. GTX1080. It's as vanilla as a gaming rig gets. Also, nothing else I've installed has a problem. Like I said, I moved on.
 
Could also be a number of people downloading for the free fly. I got about 30 min with 3.7 but spent it working out the flight model changes lol. Havent had a chance to get back at it but will wait till after the free fly trolls pass.
 
Poorly optimized and visually felt like a 2010 game. Ambiance was...lacking.. But at least there is something to play around with if you are invested.
I'd like to see other studios give this type of game a shot.

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Carrack is looking good. Cant wait to explore with / it.

Need to check out the snub it comes with. Interesting mirror design almost to the Carrack.
 
Ship and player movement when looking at them from a distance in that video (post #17813 is janky as fuck, honestly the ships look like movement in Descent 2... i'm suprised they have not worked on the physics more in a 200mn budget because it looks horrible. Some of the planet design looks beautiful though.
 
N4CR said:
Ship and player movement when looking at them from a distance in that video (post #17813 is janky as fuck, honestly the ships look like movement in Descent 2... i'm suprised they have not worked on the physics more in a 200mn budget because it looks horrible. Some of the planet design looks beautiful though.
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It's closer to $300 million.

I can't find any information about SQ42 being talked about, with it being the primary focus of development I find that pretty odd.
 
FearTheCow said:
I can't find any information about SQ42 being talked about, with it being the primary focus of development I find that pretty odd.
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I don't think SQ42 was ever the primary focus, that was a lie during the Kickstarter campaign. We didn't even get any SQ42 info until years after the KS had ended.
 
SQ42 is being worked on but I'm of the opinion they didnt get serious about SQ42 until late last year so its going to be a while before we see that release. Just my own opinion of course.
 
I know they put out a monthly (I think) newsletter spelling out progress and whatnot, but I've not been paying attention.
 
SQ42 as a more "game" has less transparency about what is being worked on and the ultimate progress to keep more under the veil for whenever people can play it. The rest is all open universe so less to surprise people with.
 
FearTheCow said:
It's closer to $300 million.

I can't find any information about SQ42 being talked about, with it being the primary focus of development I find that pretty odd.
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Last time I saw it, it was jankier than the video I bitched about. Which for an FPS game based on an FPS engine, is fucking terrible.
But I heard they 'made their own engine' aka fiddled with crytek and changed it to something they can avoid losing the lawsuit about, so at this point we maybe are just seeing patches upon patches of patches applied and it's not going to get much better.
I hope SC comes out and delivers. But at the rate it's happening with 300mil!???? compared to say.. development of No Mans Sky with a much smaller budget, I don't know if they'll ever fix it.
They keep moving the targets constantly, it's hard to hit moving targets. Even when you are shooting 20-50 rounds a day.
 
FearTheCow said:
It's closer to $300 million.

I can't find any information about SQ42 being talked about, with it being the primary focus of development I find that pretty odd.
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Holy cow, $300M and almost 9 years. I'm not saying it's fraud, but probably like 99% of the industry has created better with less time and money. And before you start belittling me, look it up, the most a AAA title takes is around 7 years and that's rare. It's either a grotesque mismanagement of resources or something shady.
 
WildMonkey said:
Holy cow, $300M and almost 9 years. I'm not saying it's fraud, but probably like 99% of the industry has created better with less time and money. And before you start belittling me, look it up, the most a AAA title takes is around 7 years and that's rare. It's either a grotesque mismanagement of resources or something shady.
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yeah, at this point it's kept afloat entirely by easily fooled Whales.

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What does this massive increase in Crowfunding come from? A new game mode launch? A new system ready for players? No,no, it's just the announcement of the yearly ship "sale" that isn't really, to distract from the otherwise complete emptiness that will encompass Citizencon 2019 :rolleyes:


Check out these comments from the obvious Salespost!

Because the idiots throwing money are "in it to win it," there's little sign of ending this Money Train. At this rate, they will be lucky to finish the second star system by 2025.

Unfortunately, it costs time and money to do all these press releases, special events, and videos to keep the money flowing from idiots, so of course the game's development is running at quarter-speed.
 
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yeah, at this point it's kept afloat entirely by easily fooled Whales.

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What does this massive increase in Crowfunding come from? A new game mode launch? No,no, it's just the announcement of the yearly ship "sale" That isn't really a sale.
And to kick-off the otherwise complete emptiness that will encompass Citizencon 2019 :rolleyes:


Check out thee comments from the obvious Salespost!

Because the idiots throwing money are "in it to win it," there's little sign of ending this Money Train. At this rate, they will be lucky to finish the second star system by 2025.

Unfortunately, it costs time and money to do all these press releases, special events, and videos to keep the money flowing from idiots, so of course the game's development is running at quarter-speed.
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I mean form a business standpoint they are geniuses they should have allrady made so much money that no matter how bad/if it never comes out they should make a pretty penny.

However the fact that the game we can play now should have cost well under 100 mill in development should tell everyone it's a scam by this point. It is literally the most expensive video game development to this point..... I wouldn't be surprised if people wind up in jail after this is all said and done
 
Yesterday The "Kraken Privateer" small carrier was listed for $2000, it sold out immediately. Sure there were only a hundred or so available, but still...

Time wise this is what happens when there is no or poor project management and you for the most part reset and start over a couple times in the process.

They won't be in danger of jail time or criminal charges. They have been very careful from the beginning that all pledges were for the development of the game, and that items/game play/whatever can and will change in the development process. They so far, have not done anything legally criminal.

Are they in danger at some point have some civil liability issues? Maybe.

I will say, there are times in the tech demo, where you cans see what could be a great game.
 
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I will say, there are times in the tech demo, where you cans see what could be a great game.
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That's the sad part. As much as I enjoy the popcorn train wreck, this is a game I'd love to play when more complete.

Just like when NMS got nailed on launch, I loved it and was pretty happy. This game is similar to those already enjoying it.
 
Objectively looking at the con presentations, nothing new or noteworthy was shown. On top of that, what was shown were all things that other games have done and that CIG still can't actually implement, just talk about implementing.
 
From a marketing standpoint they have done a brilliant job. I'll give them that. I said it years ago if CR pulls this off he is the greatest game maker ever to walk the Earth. If not then he'll be the most evil gamer maker ever to walk the Earth.
 
The best part about "micro tech" is that it crashes the server if you die on the planet.

Seriously, are none of the die hard fans concerned that the last year has supposedly been devoted to SQ42 and yet only "coming soon" tech demos for star citizen were shown?

How are you not concerned that there is still basically no AI? 50 player limits? One unfinished system?

How can anyone be excited and continue to support CIG after these videos are all they have to show for $250+ million and 8 years.
 
FearTheCow said:
The best part about "micro tech" is that it crashes the server if you die on the planet.

Seriously, are none of the die hard fans concerned that the last year has supposedly been devoted to SQ42 and yet only "coming soon" tech demos for star citizen were shown?

How are you not concerned that there is still basically no AI? 50 player limits? One unfinished system?

How can anyone be excited and continue to support CIG after these videos are all they have to show for $250+ million and 8 years.
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That is their biggest issue, horrifically bad project (mis)management. Even if you give them a pass for resetting and moving to a new engine, they are constantly adding new tech, that while interesting is just adding years to the development.

I have no problems with the Star Citizen PU game taking some time to build out given what they are wanting to do, but there is pretty much no real excuse why SQ42 is not finished, or nearly finished. The SP game doesn't need server meshing, or individual ship components, or multiple manned ship stations or dozens of other modules that they keep inventing.

Seriously at the rate they are going I will have to bequeath my RSI account to my kid.
 
What really gets me about this is Star Citizen just needed to be a prettier and more in depth version of NMS and Elite Dangerous. The problem as has been pointed out before, is CR decided "more depth" meant trying to dive to the deepest part of the ocean using a cargo ship.
 
FearTheCow said:
What really gets me about this is Star Citizen just needed to be a prettier and more in depth version of NMS and Elite Dangerous. The problem as has been pointed out before, is CR decided "more depth" meant trying to dive to the deepest part of the ocean using a cargo ship.
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Hell it just needed to be an updated awesome version of Wing Commander, maybe with a Privateer Multiplayer element. Not super duper space sim maybe 2028.
 
I was so excited when Squadron 42 was announced as I was looking forward to a good story driven single player game. Now I am regretting my funding as it is apparent this is not at all a priority to the developers now. With the continual feature creep we will never see this game released.
 
I came into the game in the summer of '17 (I waited) so I'm a more recent backer. From everything I have seen they didnt really get serious about SQ42 until around December 2018 so for those waiting for SQ42 dont hold your breath for a 'soon' release. If they get it out in 2020 I'll be surprised. More like 2021 I'm thinking. That's just my own opinion though. Have to wait and see what happens.
 
Skott said:
I came into the game in the summer of '17 (I waited) so I'm a more recent backer. From everything I have seen they didnt really get serious about SQ42 until around December 2018 so for those waiting for SQ42 dont hold your breath for a 'soon' release. If they get it out in 2020 I'll be surprised. More like 2021 I'm thinking. That's just my own opinion though. Have to wait and see what happens.
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It's funny that "SC was not serious about SQ42 until recently" keeps coming up when they were already doing mocap in 2015. They also already were talking about the story and set pieces for SQ42 around that time, preview game play at that year's CitizenCon etc.

It was just put on the back burner while they were rebuilding SC.
 
termite said:
It's funny that "SC was not serious about SQ42 until recently" keeps coming up when they were already doing mocap in 2015. They also already were talking about the story and set pieces for SQ42 around that time, preview game play at that year's CitizenCon etc.

It was just put on the back burner while they were rebuilding SC.
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Remember when CR said in 2016 that SQ42 was weeks away?
 
Im getting tired of this thread popping back up just for people to bitch and moan. I open it in hopes of actual, useful, interesting content, not the *same* bitching and complaints that have been repeated for over 400 pages. We get it, a decent amount of you are grumpy and think the games a scam. Shut the fuck up about it already.
 
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