Star Citizen Developer Calls Real-Time Ray Tracing "A Massive Headache"

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  1. Megalith

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    Will Star Citizen support ray tracing? The answer is an unsurprising “no.” Cloud Imperium developer Ben Parry suggests implementing the technology would be a “massive headache and time sink,” as it would break the game in its current form and call for substantial redesign of existing elements. Another problem is visual parity: the team wants the game to look similar even on different configurations, so they would have to develop alternatives to ray-tracing effects for those on lower-ended cards. Most backers agree the team should merely focus on completing the game.

    Parry admitted that he’d love to use real-time ray tracing in order to enhance the game’s shadows. Parry also admitted that real-time ray tracing is currently – and for the foreseeable future – the only technique via which game developers can offer correct reflections in their games, however that’s also something that will need additional workload. “The “headache” part is writing all the management code that will be needed, eg. to calculate lighting/shadowing on objects that aren’t on screen.”
     
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  2. Master_shake_

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    oh shit they're adding ray tracing?

    they're gonna need another 20 million in donations before the game is still not done.
     
  3. Nenu

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    Tons of luck required without it!
     
  4. gxp500

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    Awww i was hoping they'd setup another kickstarter for a ray tracing patch, to be completed in 2022...
     
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  5. PhaseNoise

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    Wait, there's a random new technology they AREN'T going to adopt?
     
  6. Nenu

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    Not enough space ships to justify it yet.
    More GIFs required.
     
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  7. Jim Kim

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    Wait a minute.
    You mean to tell me they finally found something they won't add to the game.
    I call shenanigans.


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  8. PhaseNoise

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    I keep wondering what my initial 30 dollar pledge in I believe 2012 will eventually produce. To be fair, I may have received that much entertainment from its development thus far, so it's all a win from here.
     
  9. lostin3d

    lostin3d [H]ard|Gawd

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    They can't even support themselves let alone more features!
     
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  10. ManofGod

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    *Shrug* 2019 and no game in sight. LOL!
     
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  11. Aireoth

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    You know your new tech is bad when even Star Citizen won't adopt it.
     
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  12. DrDoU

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    Giv’em more money for useless RT.
     
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    20 years from now, the game will have been out for 15 years, and you guys will still be pretending the game isn't out.
     
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    Correction... The game will in Beta 1.1 state and we are still waiting for completed product. All while they hit the backing goal of 2.1trillion
     
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  15. Aireoth

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    You guys really need a new script.
     
  16. Derangel

    Derangel [H]ard as it Gets

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    So you're saying it will be at least another five years before the game is out? So like a decade late from when they originally promised it would release?
     
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    So it seems like ray tracing is not backwards compatible. I was hoping for games like ALIEN Isolation to be re-released with ray tracing.
     
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    Another excuse to whine about needing more money and, in turn, delaying the release again? Yes please!

    They say no at the moment, but all I hear is yes yes yes.
     
  19. Cobalt35

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    Yeah you just keep telling yourself that, according to your timeline, a game released literally a decade late and hundreds of millions of dollars over budget is just fine.
     
  20. BlackManx

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    LMFAO, Thanks for the great gut laugh, really funny. I'm a whale but I still look at the funds lost vs. overall entertainment value from the community, anti-community and "game" (current state) as a way better and cheaper hobby than my neighbor across the street with his Ferrari. At least my ships will be used and abused, not just sit in the hangar all the time. To each his own, I say.
     
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    It is not my type of game but it does look pretty amazing overall. I do watch gameplay videos on occasion. Agreed there are other hobbies that can be money sinks.
     
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    Render without lights. Let artificial stupidity fake it. Coulda been finished yesterday.
     
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    Apparently you couldn't read past the first sentence.
     
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    For the love of all that is holy! Get the game “finished” and shipped, add Ray tracing as a patch down the road you are looking at 3-5 years before it becomes a mainstream item and at this point only has a single vendor specific implementation that is subject to change. Outside of an immediate sales gimmick why would you put it in.
     
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  25. gigatexal

    gigatexal [H]ardness Supreme

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    If he thinks that’s a “headache” I wonder what he thinks about actually releasing a game?
     
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    What's apparently even harder? Shipping a game!
     
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    New trillion dollar ship package to get all of the previous released ships, but with ray tracing now?
     
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  30. Tak Ne

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    Of course theyre not adding ray-tracing. They're planning for Star Citizen's release to coincide with an even better technology built into graphics cards.. Diffused Scattering Neutrino Path Tracing.
     
  31. AceGoober

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    Good they aren't adding Ray Tracing. They really need to focus on getting their previous promises completed before tackling any further eye candy enhancements.
     
  32. Jim Kim

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    DSNPT is truly superior to ray tracing, plus it's open source. Its one saving grace is that all game assets hava to be re-done to support it.
     
  33. Whach

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    Is anyone taking this company seriously anymore? I'd suggest getting your game out before saying what you are not going to add to it.


    Unless that's their plan and say : " oh, in the end we added it and it delayed us even more. We told everyone so!"

    Jokers they are....
     
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  34. stephen2002

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    That's a shame as it really a perfect game for it. So many super shiny reflective surfaces.
     
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    You guys literally said this 5 years ago.
     
  36. KazeoHin

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    In 30 years this game will have been our for 5 years and you all will still say it's not completed.











    /s
     
  37. Master_shake_

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    the year is 2650

    star citizen has been out for 6 months....
     
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    It may just keep up with reality!
     
  39. lostinseganet

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    Space...its really really big. If they used raytracing wouldn't the rays be restricted by the phyx™ speed of its light? Soo the rays would be going out and not comming back to render for years. They would need transwwarp raytracing! +1™ for sale to show off their oh soo cool ships. Donate now to reach the faster than light speed goal of 100 million dollars!
     
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    As soon as they run out of money, they will run a RT donation campaign to potentially add it.

    Still wondering when they will be sued for running a scam.