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I expect that is true since I suspect that a fair amount of this money was collected on credit cards and the credit card legal protections are very clear (you must receive the product or service you bought or the credit card company must refund your money ... and then they can go fight with the other company to get compensation) ... since I don't think CR wants to be tied up in lawsuits with dozens of credit card providers I suspect he will release something (even if it is another Duke Nukem Forever or Battlecruiser 3000) so that no one gets refunds and he doesn't have to deal with the banks
Someone could still file a class action suit against him for fraud or the quality but that type of suit is much tougher to win than a credit card trying to get their money back
im excited when they dont deliver and everyone loses their money. Best business model ever
That is all you have? That link?
You are by far THE biggest SC fan boy in this place... I wanted to hear more from you on this matter. I remember getting ragged on awhile back for my post in the SC thread........ And here we are.
I have been telling people since this started not to trust Chris Roberts with a dime. People are silly. The WC games only happened because no one let Chris have anything to do with $. He still almost sunk Origin Systems. His movie making where always nothing but taxable income dumps, I mean did lord of war really look like a 50 million dollar flick to anyone. Freelancer was a mess, and he managed to bilk Microsoft into buying DA... only to realize they had to almost start over with Freelancer to get it done.
SC is a scam... plain and simple. I would be willing to bet Chris has been trying to find a Buyer for CI for at least a year now. If he can't find a big studio to sucker into buying him out... he will just let it crash at some point and he'll be off to his next scam.
We all knew the deficiencies when we backed the game. We also knew that in spite of them he's had past successes.
I'm all for the idea behind Kickstarter, and I've backed a couple projects myself. But we cannot ignore the fact that it's always a risk, and the longer the development process is, the bigger the associated risks are. Stuff like deviating from the original goal is very possible if development gets dragged out for far too long.
Just for the [H] members only I offer this one time killer deal. I am going to develop the kickstarter BS detection app. Now the app is only $45 and I will offer a gold edition for $125 with zero adds accept for adds from our 352 paid sponsors. Now I don't yet have these sponsors but if you inbox me that $45 We know they will swoop in. This app will tell you if a KS program is to legit to quit or BS. You like hot chicks, we will have hot chicks as this is the new trend. I will personally post YOUR daily horrorscope and for our biggest supporters there will be prizes.
Act now before this goes public as the price will jump to $65, this early adopter offer is only available on days that end in Y.
actually I bought the constellation package for $245 and have already had a ton of fun so far. I have had my moneys worth as when I do a teleconference meeting I go sit in my captains chair of the Connie and feel powerful. I have high hopes for this game but for those who spent thousands, what were you thinking.
I wish people would stop using KS as the whipping boy for this project ... Chris Roberts had already collected 20-30 million directly from users before he even launched KS ... in his case he did use KS as an additional money grab but only got an additional 2 million (not even one of the top projects) ... since completing his KS he has gone on to collect more than 30 million additional from users directly (who knows if he has other sources as well) ... if this project succeeds or fails it is reflective of direct user financing but not necessarily Kickstarter itself since KS has only been involved in about 2 million of his 70+ million financing (3%)
KS certainly has risks and you need to be careful which software projects you support but there are reputable developers who are using it to create reputable projects like Divinity, Pillars of Eternity, Wasteland, Torment, Bards Tale IV, Grim Dawn, and others ... although the publisher funded game model has allowed users to stay out of the funding business, it has also led to most of the behaviors that game users like to complain about (monetization techniques like DLC or IAP, console ports, weird or usual shifts in IP to suit publisher desires, etc) ... if through some miracle CR is able to launch a successful project he will prove the user funded model works for big budget AAA projects ... the small developers using KS have already proved the model for Indie titles and smaller budget niche market titles
20-30 million, that's a 50% increase. Your whole post is sarcasm, right.
I didn't follow this project that closely that is why I gave a range. Chris Roberts started his Star Citizen project with a direct (through his website) donation system ... he collected millions using this method (I know it was at least 20 million but it could have been higher) ... with some of the high profile successful projects like Wasteland, Project Eternity, and other he then decided to do a Kickstarter campaign ... he collected only 2 million through that campaign ... since you can only do one KS per project and he got more money through his own website he returned to that model ... his Star Citizen project has collected more than 70 million in direct user financing ... my analysis was based on that
That said, a 70 million dollar title is not usual ... the big AAA game releases can run into the 50-150 million ranges occasionally (which is why they are usually funded by publishers, who have that kind of money available) ... realistically I hope that CR does pull off his project since it would show that even big projects can be completed with zero publisher involvement ... so no sarcasm
Instead of pulling random untruths/numbers out of a hat, try Google, I hear it's nice this time of year.
Derek Smart is a fucking moron and if he says its true, that just makes it more certainly not true. I for one don't believe a word of it.
I'm not all that keen on Smart and the way he's trying to position himself as an uninvited SJW on behalf of SC backers, but you can't deny there's a fair amount of effort, research and dedication on his part.
The best that people who seek to discredit his rhetoric can come up with is a link to a Taylor Swift video. Good job.
"Reorganizing" is business speak for layoffs LOTS of layoffs usually when the company is going south in a last ditch attempt to fend off chapter 11
No you see we're recalibrating our tiger teams to get them realigned with our core ship sale initiatives. . With this recalibrationwe invariably maximize our infinitely reconfigurable space yachts for sale. That is an amazing achievement considering our working conditions! The strategic six-sigma, distributed re-sizing factor can be summed up in one word: B2C, next-generation, space, compelling. Think nano-efficient.
The entire remaining staff is literally just 3D modeling ships now for "limited" sale. There is no game now, only the ships. It's fucking beautiful!
20-30 million, that's a 50% increase. Your whole post is sarcasm, right.
He was going to rape people of their money regardless of whether or not the kickstarter succeeded.
seems there are alot more people that just love to hate shit these days, some would call them trolls, could be they just really get off on hating everything they don't like
:/
But that's not as bad as the sick people here who are rooting for the game to fail so they can fulfill their own personal schadenfreude by laughing at those who stand to lose tons of money following a passion. Grow up.