So you want a 1080 TI but...(long way to get one)

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http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/cty/...acd=12309198375458460&VEN3=813603940098062563

Start at the above link (sorry for the url barf I can't get the link text to work for some reason)

Basically it is a 1599 alienware with a 1080TI - you either (with coupon code TENOFF for 10% off so 1434)

buy it take out the TI and sell the PC as is or part it out

or you can do what I did add in a second TI for 735 dollars sell one on ebay for 1100 and boom you get a new computer with a 1080 TI for 1000 bucks

or you can get two - sell on on ebay - sell the box and keep the other TI -

OR - you can get two - sell both on ebay and get the box basically for free (this works if you have a graphics card already but want the newest hardware) -

OR (I had a friend do this - he is the one who told me about it) he had two 1080 GTX in SLI - he sold them on ebay for 750 each - bought this with two 1080 tis for around 2000 - so he got a brand new Dell with an i5 8400/850 watt gold ps/8gb ram/1tb HD and two Ti's in SLI for 500 bucks...bastard! :)

The down side is you need to float about 2000 bucks until you get it all sorted out but you can always pre-sell the tis to cover the money :) - anyways glhf!
 
Careful on Ebay with the %15 fees. I have also noticed alot of the bidders have feedback less than 20 which indicates they are scammers. Also require signature confirmation by an adult. This is required for Ebay seller protection on sales over $750.
 
I had noticed a sudden increase in bidders from the Russian Federation - so I turned off global mail - I had sold a few of the amd ones when the 580/480s were going like mad and no issues so far.
 
I looked at this long and hard the other day, almost bought one with two cards but I don't want to deal with parting the PC, really...It doesn't make a lot of economical sense to me. The rest of the PC doesn't do a good job of making up for the shortfall after you rip out the GPUs IMO.
 
Well if I look at it from a parting out stand point - the other parts (CPU/Memory/HDD/PSU) add up to about 400 bucks (conservative estimate) -

Average GTX 1080 TI is going for about 1100 on Ebay - 10% fees - 990 each so 1980 for two cards - if you sold it all you pretty much come up a wash so in that respect yeah it is not that great of a deal - the deal part comes in with the TI and being able to get a second one for 735. That gives you about +400 ish to offset costs. If you sold ONE and the parts you end up with a 1080 TI for around 800 bucks - It's just a way to get your hands on TI's for a reasonable price if you are willing to do a little work to get there.
 
Yeah i just did the numbers... Even if u were to get an employee discount, after paying tax (Which most states do because Dell is literall everywhere).. taking the 460w power supply option which shaves off $100, and the 2nd 1080 ti, it would make the combo $2250... after after employee discount and taxes... $2025... that leaves hardware that you could sell for what i would guess would come out to about $250-300 maximum actual profit... unless you found someone who really just had a boner for an alienware case/motherboard. leaving your best case takeaway scenereo at about $1750 for 2 1080 ti's.... which mind you ins a good price, but not that good considering it would be Dell Branded vanilla GPU with no warranty to speak of because the computer it came with is long gone... so $875 per gpu for No warranty, and lowest resale value of any 1080 ti. Best case IMO..... and if you dont know anyone who could get you employee discount, then it jumps up to 1050+ per GPU... (That number sound familliar?)
 
This is going to be over soon. Ethereum difficulty is going to make scaling to the point of profits very difficult (at home). I have two miners (11 gpus total). The amount I've mined has gone from 1.25 coins per month to 0.8 since the beginning of this year. In another month or so I expect that I'll need to make the "why even bother" decision. In addition dual mining will soon be dead putting a further dent in profits.

I have not bought any cards since black friday. These prices are insane, I have no idea how people are justifying these inflated purchases when ROI is at this point 8+ months when you account for difficulty.
 
I paid 2265.52 for the i5 8400/8gb ram/1TB hdd and 2 1080 GTX Ti that was with the expedited shipping and tax in ohio.

If I sold just one TI for 1100 on ebay ate the 10% fees I still paid 1275.00 for a brand new dell with a 1080 Ti (try getting just a TI for that price) - if I sold the second one for the same price and stuck in a 1050TI for 100 bucks I have a brand new dell with a 1050 TI for 385 bucks.

Like I said parting it out is pretty much a wash but if you are looking for TI and don't want to pay 1100 dollars for it - here is a way if you get creative.
 
Doesn't that defeat the purpose of jumping through these hoops?

not if you are looking for the box minus the graphics cards - whole system with 2 is 2265 deliverd - presell two tis for 2200 use the money to buy the system - ship the cards when they arrive boom you have a new dell for free all you need is to add a video card.
 
not if you are looking for the box minus the graphics cards - whole system with 2 is 2265 deliverd - presell two tis for 2200 use the money to buy the system - ship the cards when they arrive boom you have a new dell for free all you need is to add a video card.

But I didn't come in here to get a Dell computer I don't need. I came in here to figure out how to get a 1080Ti like the thread title says :p.
 
Its not about how long it will take to recoup your money from hardware, its more of a gamble that what you mine will be worth 10-100x in a year or 5. This is why prices are through the roof I think. I admit, I myself have dumped 10k into inflated hardware prices, but its more of an investment/gamble for me that in x years it will be worth something. I do not plan on converting any of the crypto into usd anytime soon.
 
But I didn't come in here to get a Dell computer I don't need. I came in here to figure out how to get a 1080Ti like the thread title says :p.

Yea, the problem is its a Dell. Who the eff is gonna want a Dell shell?
 
Things I'm not looking forward to: having to sign up for nowinstock text alerts because getting a volta card (non-FE) will be next to impossible.
There is something hilarious about Microcenter destroying years of good will in order to profit from crypto interest.
For me to say, out loud, that I'm buying my hardware from Best Buy from now on? Never expected it to come to this.

On that note, there's been a slot blower PNY for $799 that seem to stay in stock for at least 10 minutes now. I'm betting if I tried to add to my cart, it'd be OOS, but yeah that wasn't even noted on NowInStock. It's pretty worthless as a notification service.
 
There is something hilarious about Microcenter destroying years of good will in order to profit from crypto interest.
For me to say, out loud, that I'm buying my hardware from Best Buy from now on? Never expected it to come to this.

On that note, there's been a slot blower PNY for $799 that seem to stay in stock for at least 10 minutes now. I'm betting if I tried to add to my cart, it'd be OOS, but yeah that wasn't even noted on NowInStock. It's pretty worthless as a notification service.

TBH I've never actually used nowinstock's alert system. I have used ebay's auto-notify once successfully. Is MC now selling gpus with a huge mark-up?
 
Yes.

It was $1400 at one point for the 1080Ti. Then it was forced system build to prove you aren't a miner and then you're still paying $910-$950 before tax for the cheapest models.
Seeing a 1050Ti re-marked up from $149.99 to $279.99, the stickers were quite fresh, just made my eyes roll.

I spoke to another gentlemen while I was there Saturday night and he just picked up a RX580 for 'only' $350.
Still not ideal, but he seemed happy to come away with something.
 
This is going to be over soon. Ethereum difficulty is going to make scaling to the point of profits very difficult (at home). I have two miners (11 gpus total). The amount I've mined has gone from 1.25 coins per month to 0.8 since the beginning of this year. In another month or so I expect that I'll need to make the "why even bother" decision. In addition dual mining will soon be dead putting a further dent in profits.

I have not bought any cards since black friday. These prices are insane, I have no idea how people are justifying these inflated purchases when ROI is at this point 8+ months when you account for difficulty.

If you're still mining Ethereum with NVIDIA cards, you're doing it WAY wrong.
 
With all due respect, I don't think you know what you are talking about.

Oh no, I do indeed know what I'm talking about. There's a handful of Equihash and NeoScrypt coins that are all significantly more profitable right now than Ethereum. Hell, even on a 1070, the darling NVIDIA card of Ethereum, is about 20% more profitable mining Zencash.

But then again, if you're a GenMay-er, stop on in and check out the coin to be mining for REAL profitability.
 
Oh no, I do indeed know what I'm talking about. There's a handful of Equihash and NeoScrypt coins that are all significantly more profitable right now than Ethereum. Hell, even on a 1070, the darling NVIDIA card of Ethereum, is about 20% more profitable mining Zencash.

But then again, if you're a GenMay-er, stop on in and check out the coin to be mining for REAL profitability.

The top coin always fluctuates on WTM, with eth remaining constant as usual. There is a reason people benchmark to it. As soon as the coin price fluctuates, guess what- you are now mining the wrong coin again. Several equihash algos mine better on green for sure, again its catching it at the right time and selling it immediately that will yield that though, which most/all people aren't going to do frequently enough to make up for the dips outside of eth.

Yesterday it wasn't Zen, it was Hush. Before that, ZCL. And if you mined it and held, you would have had more USD right now if you mined eth back then.
 
Well if I look at it from a parting out stand point - the other parts (CPU/Memory/HDD/PSU) add up to about 400 bucks (conservative estimate) -

Average GTX 1080 TI is going for about 1100 on Ebay - 10% fees - 990 each so 1980 for two cards - if you sold it all you pretty much come up a wash so in that respect yeah it is not that great of a deal - the deal part comes in with the TI and being able to get a second one for 735. That gives you about +400 ish to offset costs. If you sold ONE and the parts you end up with a 1080 TI for around 800 bucks - It's just a way to get your hands on TI's for a reasonable price if you are willing to do a little work to get there.
The trick is to think outside the box

Why buy a computer to Flip, why not just buy other items to flip?
 
Light at the end of the tunnel soon? Saw some of these availabilities in real-time. (I didn't buy any.) More than any other day this month. Almost "reasonable" at times even...

From nowinstock.net:
Jan 29 2018 - 5:47 PM EST B&H Photo - EVGA 11G-P4-6593-KR Out of Stock
Jan 29 2018 - 5:47 PM EST B&H Photo - EVGA 11G-P4-6698-KR Out of Stock
Jan 29 2018 - 5:43 PM EST Newegg - MSI GTX 1080 Ti GAMING 11G Out of Stock
Jan 29 2018 - 5:40 PM EST Newegg - PNY VCGGTX1080T11PB-OC2 Out of Stock
Jan 29 2018 - 5:40 PM EST Newegg - GIGABYTE GV-N108TGAMING OC-11GD Out of Stock
Jan 29 2018 - 5:38 PM EST B&H Photo - EVGA 11G-P4-6698-KR In Stock for $999.89
Jan 29 2018 - 5:38 PM EST Amazon - ASUS STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING Out of Stock
Jan 29 2018 - 5:38 PM EST B&H Photo - EVGA 11G-P4-6593-KR In Stock for $899.89
Jan 29 2018 - 5:37 PM EST Amazon - ASUS STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING Preorder for $799.99
Jan 29 2018 - 5:34 PM EST Newegg - MSI GTX 1080 Ti GAMING 11G In Stock for $839.99
Jan 29 2018 - 5:31 PM EST Newegg - PNY VCGGTX1080T11PB-OC2 In Stock for $949.99
Jan 29 2018 - 5:31 PM EST Newegg - GIGABYTE GV-N108TGAMING OC-11GD In Stock for $949.99
Jan 29 2018 - 5:13 PM EST Newegg - MSI GTX 1080 Ti ARMOR 11G OC Out of Stock
Jan 29 2018 - 5:04 PM EST Newegg - MSI GTX 1080 Ti ARMOR 11G OC In Stock for $909.99
Jan 29 2018 - 2:49 PM EST Newegg - MSI GTX 1080 Ti ARMOR 11G OC Out of Stock
Jan 29 2018 - 2:49 PM EST Newegg - MSI GTX 1080 TI DUKE 11G OC Out of Stock
Jan 29 2018 - 2:40 PM EST Newegg - MSI GTX 1080 TI DUKE 11G OC In Stock for $899.99
Jan 29 2018 - 1:19 PM EST Newegg - MSI GTX 1080 TI DUKE 11G OC Out of Stock
Jan 29 2018 - 1:10 PM EST Newegg - MSI GTX 1080 TI DUKE 11G OC In Stock for $899.99
Jan 29 2018 - 12:52 PM EST Newegg - MSI GTX 1080 TI DUKE 11G OC Out of Stock
Jan 29 2018 - 12:25 PM EST Newegg - PNY VCGGTX1080T11PB-OC2 Out of Stock
Jan 29 2018 - 12:25 PM EST Newegg - PNY VCGGTX1080T11PB-CG2 Out of Stock
Jan 29 2018 - 12:07 PM EST Newegg - PNY VCGGTX1080T11PB-CG2 In Stock for $959.99
Jan 29 2018 - 11:52 AM EST Newegg - GIGABYTE GV-N108TAORUS X-11GD Out of Stock
Jan 29 2018 - 11:52 AM EST Newegg - MSI GTX 1080 Ti GAMING 11G Out of Stock
Jan 29 2018 - 11:49 AM EST Newegg - GIGABYTE GV-N108TAORUSX W-11GD Out of Stock
Jan 29 2018 - 11:43 AM EST Newegg - GIGABYTE GV-N108TAORUS X-11GD In Stock for $1,039.99
Jan 29 2018 - 11:43 AM EST Newegg - MSI GTX 1080 Ti GAMING 11G In Stock for $839.99
Jan 29 2018 - 11:40 AM EST Newegg - GIGABYTE GV-N108TGAMING OC-11GD Out of Stock
Jan 29 2018 - 11:40 AM EST Newegg - PNY VCGGTX1080T11PB-OC2 In Stock for $949.99
Jan 29 2018 - 11:39 AM EST Newegg - GIGABYTE GV-N108TAORUSX W-11GD In Stock for $1,129.99
Jan 29 2018 - 11:35 AM EST Newegg - GIGABYTE GV-N108TGAMING OC-11GD In Stock for $949.99
Jan 29 2018 - 11:35 AM EST Newegg - MSI GTX 1080 Ti ARMOR 11G OC In Stock for $909.99
Jan 29 2018 - 11:34 AM EST Newegg - MSI GTX 1080 TI DUKE 11G OC In Stock for $899.99
Jan 29 2018 - 9:04 AM EST Amazon - ASUS TURBO-GTX1080TI-11G Out of Stock
Jan 29 2018 - 8:55 AM EST Amazon - ASUS TURBO-GTX1080TI-11G Preorder for $729.99
Jan 29 2018 - 5:54 AM EST Amazon - MSI GTX 1080 Ti AERO 11G OC Out of Stock
Jan 29 2018 - 5:45 AM EST Amazon - MSI GTX 1080 Ti AERO 11G OC Preorder for $739.00
Jan 29 2018 - 4:55 AM EST Newegg - PNY VCGGTX1080T11PB-OC2 Out of Stock
Jan 29 2018 - 4:46 AM EST Newegg - PNY VCGGTX1080T11PB-OC2 In Stock for $949.99
 
$900 for that cheap msi ti armor card is a joke. I saw it and said no thank you.
 
The top coin always fluctuates on WTM, with eth remaining constant as usual. There is a reason people benchmark to it. As soon as the coin price fluctuates, guess what- you are now mining the wrong coin again. Several equihash algos mine better on green for sure, again its catching it at the right time and selling it immediately that will yield that though, which most/all people aren't going to do frequently enough to make up for the dips outside of eth.

Yesterday it wasn't Zen, it was Hush. Before that, ZCL. And if you mined it and held, you would have had more USD right now if you mined eth back then.

That's why you setup auto coin and/or algo switching with payouts in one of the "base" coins.
 
I do think that the GPU market is permanently going to see increased demand and higher prices because crypto isn't going away but it will stabilize.
 
I do think that the GPU market is permanently going to see increased demand and higher prices because crypto isn't going away but it will stabilize.

Makes me nervous about getting rid of my 1070 and riding on board. However, I really don't play any PC games (Games in general) that much anymore. Wish I had more time but I dont.
 
Would that actually work? I didn't see a /s in that post.

As far as I know, yes. I have a recent 1060 registered and I am eligible. There's 1 1080Ti that is available for Step-Up.

11G-P4-6393 - $769.99 (1080 Ti)

08G-P4-5671 - $519.99 (1070 Ti)

I don't know what the current wait time is. You'll pay the difference between the lower card and that price, so overpaying on the front doesn't matter to my knowledge.
 
Makes me nervous about getting rid of my 1070 and riding on board. However, I really don't play any PC games (Games in general) that much anymore. Wish I had more time but I dont.

I sold mine, had some seller's remorse and then bought a 1070Ti from EVGA at MSRP for what I sold my 1070 for. So you can definitely get cards if you're patient. Ended up with a "free" upgrade.
 
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