My little Marantz NR1501 is really finicky with my new system - I can't tell if it's the receiver or my PC but when I get it hooked up with HDMI audio, it will work for a while, but it does not take much and it stops working. Everything thinks it is still working (no errors) but sound just stops coming out. I found a refurb Integra (Onkyo) receiver with a 2yr mfg warranty and both HDMI audio as well as discrete 7.1 audio inputs. I just want to play games in surround and I'm so sick of issues with HDMI, HDCP, Nvidia Surround and having to have an extra monitor or a ghost monitor or whatever. $200 is a good price for a receiver with both types of input. I'll run motherboard multi channel to the new receiver for gaming and probably use stereo over optical for just music. One of the issues I had with an analog computer speaker system a few years back was that it had very long input cables and any sort of activity on my cell phone would cause pretty significant induction noise. I'm thinking shorter (3ft probably) input cables will prevent or minimize that issue. I still can't believe that the HDMI spec does not have some sort of audio only mode that just sends a blanked out video signal. Is anyone else just constantly pissed off about how stupidly hard surround audio can be these days?