I was anticipating building my box, had a nice MSI motherboard and the 1800+ on pre order.. Also ordered the storage and cooler and ram already at this point and had all of those on hand. Friday gets here and my AMD hadn't shipped yet but the benchmarks came out. AMD was not really contending in IPC, it could do MORE simultaneous threads but that was proving to not be what games (what I use my system for most all) is used for. So I went and checked my pre order.. still in pre order status and I bit the bullet cancelled it and ordered Intel with a good MSI Intel motherboard. (Have had great results with this brand.) Got it.. did my rebuild of my system cleaning out all of the dust from nearly 6 years of not changing parts out other than the Video card and Hard drive. Booted and installed my OS... Did a modest overclock... Downloaded my games and did a bit of game testing... with amazing results. Noticed something... Maybe it's just my age and I am mroe methodical now than I was as a young IT and computer enthusiast. Maybe I've just built so many it's rote.. but I didn't have an issue. NOT ONE. My drivers installed clean, my OS was clean, my OC was clean, my build was drama free.. I.. I... I missed all of the issues around going to a new platform... and new hardware. It was DRAMA free.. Now I go to the Ryzen forums because I want to see this platform do well. I read the threads... and there isn't one without someone talking about how their build is bad, or their system isn't stable without a BIOS update, or how windows isn't managing something right, or how they can't get reliable temperature readings from their CPU thanks to any combination of the above... I'm just subtly relieved I can go home... unlock my desktop and game.. No drama other than WOW drama. It's so nice! But a small part of me.. DOES kind of miss the grind of troubleshooting the new hardware!