So....I bought a water chiller..

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So this weekend I picked up a water chiller..
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This is a 1/2 hp unit. Can drop 250 gallons of water 10f or 125 gallons 20f.. I'm going to be setting it up with a 5 gallon res so below freezing should be possible. Going to be hidding a 5 gallon cooler in the bottom of my rack to hold the water. You can use it with just your tipical pc sized res but I want to keep the chiller from running all the time. I don't know how loud it is as of yet since I havn't had a chance to fire it up. I still need to pick up a pump and cpu block. I plan on doing alot of testing and posting up alot of into on how fast it cools and noise (guy I got it from says it sounds like a dorm room mini fridge) and heat out put. As you can see in the picture I already bought a Temp and humidity gauge so I can figure out the dew point of my room. I should be able to bring the water temp down to about 50f/8c with out having any issues with condensation. I'll be cooling a 3570k and 7970 to start with. Really want to break 5ghz on the ivy bridge. Will be a little while for me to finish this build..Chiller wasn't cheap :D. If any one has some pointers on getting a sponsorship to get this build moving a little quicker let me know. Should be a fun build. Thanks

Rig specs
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge
MSI Z77A-GD65
MSI R7970 2PMD3GD5
G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB 1866
Plextor M3 Series PX-128M3
CORSAIR TX750
 
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My new res I just built today.. Starting off with a 1/2 gallon cooler to see how it's going to work. I would have this up and running to day but I missed the USPS guy by 30 mintues :(...
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Day started with putting the block on my 7970. I really like this block looks really nice. I do hate putting on thermal pads though.
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Then I ran into a bit of a problem. I ordered these adaptops to go into the water chiller so I could use smaller fittings with it. Well there for a difrent brand, then mine and were to small. So luckly I had bought a pack of gramets for the res I made. There were some larger ones that fit perfect over the adaptors and end up working great ( after soaking them in hot water and currsing alot of get them over the adaptors).
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Here I'm flushing out the chiller as it was a used chiller and salt water in a loop would not be the best in the world. Guy I got it from had already flushed it. But I wanted to do it again to be safe.
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Here are my temps on my H50 full Load..
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Here are my temps Idle with the Water Chiller..
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Here is full load with prime95 for 20 mintues..
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Still might be a good idea to put some kind of condensation protection on there. Just to be safe.

I thought those things don't run 100% of the time, more off/on like fridges?

Make a build log in as many places as possible and ask companies of the stuff you want. If they see you are getting views/exposure then they're more likely to give you free stuff in return for free advertizing. I'd assume anyway. :D
 

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Still might be a good idea to put some kind of condensation protection on there. Just to be safe.

I thought those things don't run 100% of the time, more off/on like fridges?

Make a build log in as many places as possible and ask companies of the stuff you want. If they see you are getting views/exposure then they're more likely to give you free stuff in return for free advertizing. I'd assume anyway. :D

They usually do, but if it having to dissipate the heat from a PC, it'll pretty much run constantly. I would personally still run at least one good rad in between the system and the chiller, just to remove some of the heat before it gets to the chiller. I'd also use a cooler for the water reservoir.
 

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They usually do, but if it having to dissipate the heat from a PC, it'll pretty much run constantly. I would personally still run at least one good rad in between the system and the chiller, just to remove some of the heat before it gets to the chiller. I'd also use a cooler for the water reservoir.

If you put a rad into the system, then you will be heating the water.

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"A word of warning though: adding a radiator to a loop with a water chiller is counterproductive, as the radiator will actually transfer heat from the air into the loop, raising the temperature of the coolant. Do not use a radiator with a water chiller!"
 
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The more water you add to the loop the longer it will take to heat up. The less the unit will have to turn on the more power I save as my computer is usally on 24/7. Once this is all setup I'll have it folding 24/7. The less heat it's dumping into my office the happier I am.

You do not want any rad's in a Chiller loop. The water in the loop is below the ambient temperature. You will be passing air that is hotter then the water temp in the loop that will in turn just add more heat to be cooled by the chiller. Even the water that is at the end of the loop going into the res will only be raised by a few degress. You have to factor in water flow over the componets as to how much heat will be taken in by the water. The slower the flow the more heat will be interduced into the water. The faster the flow the less heat will be taken in. Since there are no rads in the loop you can have a higher rate of flow because the water does not need to cooled down by flowing through a rad. Because of this the items in the loop even under full load should not have a large tempture increase between idle and full load.
 

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The more water you add to the loop the longer it will take to heat up. The less the unit will have to turn on the more power I save as my computer is usally on 24/7. Once this is all setup I'll have it folding 24/7. The less heat it's dumping into my office the happier I am.

Once you achieve steady state, water volume makes no difference.
 

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The more water you add to the loop the longer it will take to heat up. The less the unit will have to turn on the more power I save as my computer is usally on 24/7. Once this is all setup I'll have it folding 24/7. The less heat it's dumping into my office the happier I am.

You realize that by doing this you will be putting more heat in your office, right?
 

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You realize that by doing this you will be putting more heat in your office, right?

Yup, unless the chiller's going to be in another room. Otherwise, it'll be the heat generated by the computer plus the heat generated by the chiller.

It's pretty simple...power in = heat out

That there's basic physics. The law of conservation of energy is one law you can't break.
 
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Ill be happy to get all the heat out of my enclosed server rack. This is what everything is going in.
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Looks like a great toy to over clock with but I really think the investment of it will pay off greater if you plan on running it as cold as possible and plan on dealing with condensation to get the most out of the cooling.


Are you going to delid and replace TIM on your 3570k as well?
 
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I don't plan on running it cooler then about 8c/56f. Might delid it at some point if I'm not happy with the temps. Trying to run it under room temp is just to much to mess with since I'm cooling the video card also. Its my daily use computer and its going to be on 24/7 folding after its all setup and stable. So I dont want to have to worrie about it building up condensation when I'm not watching it.
 
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So I have it up and running to flush it with out the computer on its own loop. It dropped the water temp from 76F to 56F in 20 minutes. The longer it ran the faster it cooled. System is a bit louder then I really wanted. Its about as loud as a mini fridge being next to you with a fan running. The chiller holds about a gallon and a half plus the 1/2 gallon res I'm using. I should have it hooked up to the pc tonight but we will see ran into a few snags.
 
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Posted up some pic's and temps. Going to be working on see how far I can push my OC on my cpu today. 7970 even cold as hell doesn't want to go past 1225/1700 all well. Still not a bad OC but I really wanted 1300. The chiller sounds like a in window AC unit set to like medium. It's a bit louder then I had wanted but it doesn't run all the time. Once I see how I like it I'm going to get a bigger res so it cuts on even less.
 
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Right but less I have to hear the fan the happier I'll be :D right now it's off for 15 on for 15. I think it's a little low on refrigerant. I bought it used.. Might get it recharged to see if it improves cool down times.
 
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Well I'm not really impressed with this thing. I think it might need to be recharged at least thats what I'm telling my self. It is 2 years old. I loaded up my cpu and single video card with 100% loads and it only keeps it about 10c cooler then my dual 360 rads in a 700d case. I let it get down to 56F water temp and loaded it up and with in 45 minutes I'm at 82F water temp, room temp is only 74F. Plus it's loud and I hate loud. Wife wants to kill me lol. Think I'm just going to sell the thing and go back to good old water cooling. 4.4ghz Ivy up to 65c at full load on prime after 45 mintues. My old rig with dual 360 rads could keep my sand bridge at 5ghz with full load at the same temps. Going to take it apart and see if I can recharge it.
 
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So I have messed with it some more. Folding on my Ivy 4.7ghz@1.38v it's sitting between 47-50c. So it works as long as I'm not running prime 95 and Furmark at the same time lol. Water temp is staying at 64f with 14 hours of folding.
 

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How are you VRM temps on you card with that block? HWinfo64 will read them.
 
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Yea those are my VRM temps. The water in my loop is chilled down to 8c. The card idles at 18c. Thats at 1050 gpu and 1600 memory. Gamming crysis 2 it gets up to about 28-32c on the gpu. Ill take a screen shoot when I get home so you know I'm not bsing.
 

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Those are some a awesome temps. Looks like the water chiller is working great.


If you don't mind could you run Furmark for 10 mintes and see how hot our vrms get?

That Watercool Heatkiller GPU-X3 79X0 is awesome. :) I just got the nickel plated version today! Should work out great for my HD7950. :)
 
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Here are the temps you wanted.. There a bit better then what you posted in the other tread about the heatkiller water block.

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Here are the temps you wanted.. There a bit better then what you posted in the other tread about the heatkiller water block.

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They don't really compare to my temps because I am running a higher over clock... but the they are much higher than your folding temps but over all your temps are great.

I need to fix my loop flow to improve temps but they will not be as good as yours with the chilled water cooler.
 
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