Skylake-X (Core i9) - Lineup, Specifications and Reviews!

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  1. Shintai

    Shintai [H]ardness Supreme

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    Now its everyone else fault you couldnĀ“t read a chart and tried to play smart? Talking about objectivity. You already decided long ago to buy TR as you posted yourself.
     
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  2. exlink

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    Someone with a 6950X buy the 7900X so I can buy your 6950X for $800.

    Thanks.
     
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  3. Shintai

    Shintai [H]ardness Supreme

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    4.8Ghz without delid, 5Ghz with delid as max OC.
     
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  4. lutjens

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    I've decided to purchase exactly nothing to date...I don't base my purchasing decisions on rumor, conjecture or bullshit fanboy innuendo. I wait until the reviews are ALL out and I read them all to get the best picture on all the products that I can. That's called making an objective decision. Something you know absolutely nothing about.

    I can purchase whatever processor I feel like and I will purchase the best one, if I feel there is enough of an improvement over my current rig to make a purchase worthwhile.
     
  5. TaintedSquirrel

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    Yeah but solder is better than a delid.
     
  6. lutjens

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    Yeah, that 4.8GHz is an easy-peasy overclock that is running at safe 24/7 voltages. So sayeth Shintai...:rolleyes:
     
  7. lolfail9001

    lolfail9001 [H]ard|Gawd

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    Anyways, 7900X is literally impossible to overclock while keeping it LinX-stable (realistically it will hit 300W even with AVX offset keeping it at very base clocks), so there's that.
     
  8. lutjens

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    No, no, no...Shintai says that solder isn't needed....lol.
     
  9. lolfail9001

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    Worse, actually, ask der8auer.
     
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  10. TaintedSquirrel

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    Got a link? His stuff is usually in German.
     
  11. Shintai

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    Just find him on youtube. he post videos in English too.
     
  12. Shintai

    Shintai [H]ardness Supreme

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    Really? Shame your own posts prove otherwise.

     
  13. lolfail9001

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    He did english dubs for his solder delid vids.
     
  14. Shintai

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    SKL-X is really the all around chip with cake and able to eat it.

    But if you are just a gamer, CFL-S is going to keep the glory of the mainstream going there after the 7700K.
     
  15. lolfail9001

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    No, actually. Until you can actually have a separate P-state for AVX workloads with custom VID and shit, SKL-X won't be an all around chip.
     
  16. -Sweeper_

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    Skylake-X & Kaby Lake-X Reviews List

    - AnandTech (Core i7-7800X, Core i7-7820X, Core i9-7900X)
    - Hardware Canucks (Core i7-7740K)
    - The Tech Report (Core i9-7900X)
    - Guru3D (Core i9-7900X)
    - Tom's Hardware (Core i9-7900X)
    - bit-tech (Core i9-7900X)
    - Hexus (Core i9-7900X)
    - PCGamesHardware.de (Core i9-7900X - Preview)
    - PCWorld (Core i9-7900X)
    - Overclock3D (Core i7-7820X)
    - HotHardware.com (Core i7-7740K, Core i9-7900X)
    - LanOC Reviews (Core i7-7740K, Core i9-7900X)
    - Hardware.info (Core i7-7740K, Core i9-7900X)
    - PC Perspective ( Core i9-7900X)
    - TweakTown (Core i9-7900X)
    - GamersNexus (Core i9-7900X)
    - 4Gamer.net (Core i9-7900X)
    - Coolenjoy (Core i9-7900X)
    - LinusTechTips (Core i9-7900X)
    - Vortez (Core i7-7740K)
    - Coolaler (Core i7-7740K, Core i9-7900X)
    - PConline (Core i7-7820X)
    - Mobile01 (Core i9-7900X)

    OP updated!
     
  17. lutjens

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    If Intel produces a compelling, feature-rich product that meets my needs better, then I'll go that route, but one system I build in the near future will probably be a Threadripper unless there is a good reason not to. I'll have to consult the obligatory reviews and benchmarks before purchase though...then I'll decide for sure.

    My statement does NOT mean that I'm NOT considering Intel processors. I did not say "I'm solely supporting AMD this time around." I said "I'll be supporting AMD", which may mean one system or three...it's way too early to tell for certain. But I won't blind myself to alternatives, nor be unwilling to incorporate new and truthful information into my decision-making. Only fanboys such as yourself blindly exclude alternatives and are entirely unable to recognize the benefits that such alternatives may offer.

    Skylake-SP looks promising and I'm looking forward to seeing workstation and server solutions for Skylake-SP, as well as AMD's EPYC and will weigh the pros and cons of BOTH brands, not just one, once all pertinent infomation has been formally announced.
     
  18. Gideon

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    That 7900X is running really hot even at 4.8 on Tom's Hardware, 364 watt peak draw before it shut itself off running prime95.
     
  19. bjornb17

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    Well what do you expect from a jacked out 10 core part. 4.8 (and maybe up to 5 after tweaking settings) is really impressive and the challenge of managing the heat is part of the fun. Based on the reviews it seems like the chips are very capable and I'm glad they are able to hit high clocks!
     
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  20. Gideon

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    It was not stable at 4.8 man. It allowed them to do most things but running prime95 it overheated a custom water loop. They even say overclocking on air is not happening with it. Maybe with a delid you can get it prime95 stable at 4.8 but they said 4.5 is a more realistic overclock. Not only that but it showed regression to the 10 core it's replacing which is a issue, at times its much better tho. Seems it's a bit buggy in it's current state. But those thermals are killer.
     
  21. Kato1144

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    Kabylake X vs Kabylake, delidded and overclocked, side by side comparison

    Just keep in mind this CPU is a engineering sample

     
  22. Gideon

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    I dont think the 7740x will be a big seller. I just dont see people buying this platform and using it with the 7740x, is a impressive overclock tho but not terribly exciting considering the whole platform.
     
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    Ya I hear you, KabyLake X is misguided for sure but it is here so might as well see what I can do, with that said I think some board partners will be making boards that are cheap and only have dual channel memory and only 2 or 3 PCI e 16 slots
     
  24. lolfail9001

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    I mean, it is running Prime95 with AVX2 (certainly not AVX512 because 4.8Ghz with AVX512 would easily run at over 500W), did you expect it to be ice cool? For reference 6950X at 4.3 is pulling well over 200 and thermal throttles with solder too on toms' setup.
     
  25. Kato1144

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    I just found a i9 7900X benchmark and testing by gamer nexus, I just started watching it and it look like there testing it against a R7 1800X, all at stock speeds and no thermals yet...

     
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  26. Gideon

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    Over 300 is nuts tho, that is beyond the cooling capacity of 98% of the coolers that people have. To me is just shows the cooler can tolerate it for short amount of time and will eventually be overwhelmed at high clock speeds. I think they are dead on when they say 4.5 or lower is more likely for daily use. Dont want to be waiting on a rendering and have it crash right towards the end due to heat.
     
  27. lolfail9001

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    It was not since Haswell-EP.
    It is not a CPU for 95% of people either.
    You are not going to use that anything stability sensitive anyways, no ECC, and certainly not with any overclock.
     
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  28. Araxie

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    no kind of application on earth run at the heat/stress level of prime95 with AVX, there's no secret that since haswell manufacturers as ASUS on their overclocking Guides RECOMMEND TO NOT USE prime95 with AVX Since Haswell with special remark on Haswell-E.

    does anyone remember that guide? same keep applying to Broadwell-E and Skylake-X even on Mainstream Parts, reviewers keep using Prime95 for NO reason. nowadays Prime95 is more a cooling test than a stability test.

    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bz2VRRbLPrZnMXpJY3k5Vk8zSVU/edit

    that's it some quotes:

    those ARE CPUS hitting 100C and shut-down with the use of Prime95 AVX, those are CPUs going pulling OVER 400W on the CPU that have strict requirements for Cooling, and even for PSU!! So, What the heck is everyone complaining now About Skylake-X behaving EXACTLY the same..?
     
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    That doesnt make it right man. I agree it's over the top like Furmark but even gpu manufactures made it throttle vs burn itself into the ground. Intel needs to put a limiter on that power draw with AVX used.
     
  30. lolfail9001

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    It has on stock CPUs, if you are overclocking you are disabling that limit by default. And well, Intel does not really care if you kill your CPU overclocking, if they learn of you touching multiplier they'll tell you to sod off.
     
  31. realworld

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    I might just skip the 7900x and get the 7820x. Some reviewers are getting 4.8 Ghz at a reasonable temperature compared to that mini-nuclear warhead that is the 7900x without any deliding. Great multithreading prowess combined with 7700k-like single thread performance. Damn gimme dat shit!
     
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    Pre-ordered the 7820x this morning for pretty much this reason. Decent balance between additional cores / clock. Been waiting to upgrade from my 3770 / build a new system around a new platform and this feels like the time.
     
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    You also get gimped PCIe and gimped AVX as an added bonus/feature. Sounds like a win-win!

    Is this new intel socket a dead end for next gen, or does intel usually provide backward/forward compatibility for the privilege of spending more money for their platforms?
     
  34. lolfail9001

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    Gimped AVX is a double advantage.
    Ah, never mind, you are being a troll here.
     
  35. OrangeKhrush

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    I don't know what to make of this, it is a case of out of the blue much touted but largely unimpressive release and the pricing is just scary. All the punting that was made over the last two weeks seems to be very stupid. It is almost like the criteria for judging CPU's today is overclocking. I am just going to sound this off with a meh.
     
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    The more I read these reviews, the more I realize what a sham 4.8 ghz is on the 7900x. Even at the enthusiast level, most will only run 4.4 ghz and just use 4.8 ghz for a quick benchie and badge of honor. The temprature deltas are insane from the tcore to the heat spreader with even the most capable water systems. Also, that power consumption!
    Then there is the fact that it loses to the 6950x in WAY too many benchmarks due to the 'mesh approach'.

    Not all bad for x299. The 8 core part looks to be VERY manageable at 4.8 ghz.
     
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  38. Armenius

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    Ouch. Blows past my original budget I set out with of $1,500 (didn't expect motherboards and memory to be this expensive). If I'm going to be paying this much I'll wait it out for the HCC parts.

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel - Core i9-7900X 3.3GHz 10-Core Processor ($999.00 @ Amazon)
    CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (Purchased For $159.99)
    Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-3466 Memory ($706.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Samsung - 850 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For $399.00)
    Storage: Samsung - 850 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For $399.00)
    Storage: Samsung - 960 Pro 1.0TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($599.49 @ Amazon)
    Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $99.99)
    Video Card: NVIDIA - Titan X (Pascal) 12GB Video Card (Purchased For $1200.00)
    Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Luxe Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Full Tower Case (Purchased For $179.99)
    Power Supply: Corsair - Professional 850W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $139.99)
    Optical Drive: LG - GGC-H20L Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Drive (Purchased For $59.99)
    Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro Full - USB 32/64-bit ($191.99 @ Best Buy)
    Sound Card: Creative Labs - Sound Blaster Zx 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card (Purchased For $119.99)
    Monitor: Asus - ROG SWIFT PG278Q 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor (Purchased For $799.99)
    Keyboard: Corsair - K95 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard (Purchased For $179.99)
    Mouse: Logitech - G502 Wired Optical Mouse (Purchased For $59.99)
    Speakers: Logitech - Z-5500 505W 5.1ch Speakers (Purchased For $399.99)
    Other: Samsung UN49KU6500 Curved 49-Inch 4K Ultra HD Smart LED TV (2016 Model) (Purchased For $349.96)
    Other: GIGABYTE AORUS X299 AORUS Gaming 7 (rev. 1.0) LGA 2066 Intel X299 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 ATX Intel Motherboard ($399.99)
    Other: ASTRO Gaming A40 PC Gaming Stereo Headset - White/Grey (Purchased For $119.99)
    Other: EVGA GTX TITAN X (Pascal) / GTX 1080 Ti FE HYBRID Waterblock Cooler, Cooling, 400-HY-5388-B1 (Purchased For $159.99)
    Total: $7725.30
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-20 12:25 EDT-0400


    I added the 960 Pro in there for shits and giggles. Works out to $2,897.46, or $2,297.97 without the 960 Pro.
     
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  39. realworld

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    I didn't even realize the overshadowed 7800x is beating the 1800x in many different applications. Holy shit.
     
  40. drescherjm

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    I would expect it to do so. Same with the 6C / 12T on the mainstream platform that will be released in 2 months.