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On the Maximus Gene V, you can only change the Duty Cycle, with the lowest being 60% which makes the AP181 run at ~780rpm.
I wish I could get it down to 600-700rpm in BIOS, but that doesn't seem possible. Not for this mobo at least.
Besides the included speed switch, you can use the motherboard to control AP181's fan speed via voltage adjustment. Nearly all enthusiasts motherboards nowadays allow you to do this and it's free.
So I highly recommend that you guys give AP181 a second chance before buying another fan. The AP181 is capable of starting as low as 5V so it will spin down to 500rpm, which should be really quiet. We have a Q&A section on the AP181 product page that goes into a little bit more detail on what you can do:
http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=258&area=en#tab6
Here is also another really good article on software fan control that could be applied to AP181 (and other case fans):
http://www.silentpcreview.com/SpeedFan
The Silverstone cant do what the Phobya does at 700rpm.
CFM ratings are misleading. According to this review http://www.review-center.de/wasserkuehlung/431-180mm-luefter-roundup.html?showall=&start=9 (English translation) the AP gives half a degree better cooling at 700rpm than the Phobya.
will this case fit a seasonic x1250?
Definitely thinking of pulling the trigger on this case. I just want to know if I will have any issues installing Crossfire 5850s and a Corsair H60 with this chasis. Are there any pictures out there where people had similar configs?
That's just simply amazing.Never mind! Found my answer...
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Not sure if the Gene-Z is the same, but my Asus P8Z77I-Deluxe board cannot control fan speed unless it's PWM. I wouldn't be surprised if Asus is doing that on all of their boards now![]()
IIRC, that is also true of the 4 pin headers on my P8Z77M-Pro. My hypothesis is that any of Asus's latest boards do not support voltage fan regulation on 4 pin headers...
Is there any 4pin-PWM to 3-pin fan controller available which we can use with the stock fan...?
What you guys think utilizing the maingear 180 rad for cpu cooler ,this would work wonders . Not only that but just think about a gpu conversion with the h70 for gpu
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It's a 3.5" drive bay, there is no reason a card reader can't fit.
On the Maximus Gene V, you can only change the Duty Cycle, with the lowest being 60% which makes the AP181 run at ~780rpm.
I wish I could get it down to 600-700rpm in BIOS, but that doesn't seem possible. Not for this mobo at least.
Specs
#BEASTmode Main Rig (TJ08-E)
Intel i5 2500k @ 4.5ghz (Swiftech Water-Cooled)
Asus Maximus Gene V Motherboard
XFX HD7970 Black Edition Double Dissipation (CrossfireX @ 1175mhz)
MSI HD7970 Twin Frozr III OC Boost Edition (CrossfireX @ 1175mhz)
Corsair 16gb Vengeance Ram LP
Crucial M4 128gb SSD
Seagate 2TB 7200rpm HDD
Silverstone Temjin TJ08-E Case
Swiftech Apogee Drive II
Swiftech Komodo 7900 x 2
Swiftech 120mm XP Radiator
Swiftech MicroRev 2
Magicool 180mm Radiator
Scythe Gentle Typhoon AP29 x 3 @ 3000rpm controlled by Asus FanXpert
#beastMODE Lan Rig (SG05):
Intel i7 4770k @ 4.5ghz (Swiftech Water-Cooled)
Asus Maximus Impact VI Motherboard
Nvidia GTX 780Ti
Corsair 8gb Vengeance Ram LP
Crucial M500 128gb SSD M.2 NGFF
Western Digital Black 750GB 7200rpm HDD
Silverstone Sugo SG05 Case
Swiftech Apogee Drive II
Swiftech Komodo 780Ti (Pending)
Swiftech 120mm XP Radiator
Swiftech MicroRev 2
Scythe Gentle Typhoon AP29 x 2 @ 3000rpm controlled by Asus FanXpert
How's that Swiftech Microres been treating you? I've heard bad things about their reliability that made me shy away in the past.
I was considering the X99 route for a future TJ08-E build as well as I had read they'd only have 4 DIMMs due to the nature of DDR4 (perfect for mATX), but after seeing the Evga X99 prototype with 8 DIMMs I'm not so sure.
The top PSU vent on the TJ08-E was designed specifically for FF141 filter so no, the FF143 (matte black) won't fit perfectly on it. Though if you are handy with cutting, you could shave off the corners on the FF143 filter a bit to make it fit better.Tony Ou: After having hard times reassembling machines in FT02s in small space (and cable management failure with 5*SST-CP05, which sucks and CP05-SAS nowhere to find), I've bought TJ08-E to quickly assemble RAID10. This are my impressions (I'm comparing it to other cases I've got: FT02, TJ11 and GD01-MX)
+ best engineered case I've got. The smallest one, but the easiest to play with. Fits virtually any GPU *2 (unlike FT02/TJ11), 2* 5.25" optical drives, 3.5" multimedia card reader, 4* 3.5" HDDs
and Noctua D15S (but you must use SST-CP06), Corsair AX850 PSU (and all it at once). It also fits 1*2.5" SSD, but there so much space around 5.25" cage, behind the mobo, that you can install even twenty additionally ;-)
And while case case is really well engineered, fits plenty of stuff, provides good airflow(180" AP181) and is really slick/nice/elegant, it has two downsides:
- feels pretty cheap(in comparison to mine other cases), walls are really thin and flimsy with thin alu plate over plastic front.... (Corsair Obsidian quality, definitely not Lian Li and legacy Silverstone). It's said, because it's called 'Temjin'....at least it's leightweight(feels like nothing, after carefully moving FT02 forth and back to lay on sofa (to change something in it ;-)
- ASS-UGLY glossy/plastic PSU filter (SST-FF141B)
While I love nearly everything about this case, I really cannot stand that shiny, plastic, ugly thing on solid top[otherwise]. Looks more like Raven(not Temjin or even Fortress) . Could you put there (and official TJ08-e) recommendation about another/alternative/nicer PSU dust filter? I really think you owe that for TJ08-e community (and it should be easy for you in Silverstone headquarters if you still got TJ08-e/PS07/KL06/C330 around to try slapping some dust filters on top). I was considering SST-FF143B(is it black matte?) or Gelid SL-Dust-04, but not sure about colors and if corners are round enough(probably there are some better alternatives, and I'm judging only by pictures and not proper on-case comparison)
Tony Ou: Another complain is Silverstone page about TJ08-e (archive with upscaled low-res photos) and unreadable manual (probably scanned in low-res. PS07 also got low-res bitmap shit, while CS330 and KL06 got proper vector-based text and schematics). It looks like planned, internal diversion... ;-)
Thanks for reply.The top PSU vent on the TJ08-E was designed specifically for FF141 filter so no, the FF143 (matte black) won't fit perfectly on it. Though if you are handy with cutting, you could shave off the corners on the FF143 filter a bit to make it fit better.
And yeah, the TJ08-E and PS07 have been EOL'd for a while now, we unfortunately won't be updating their product pages anymore!
The wider cutout for audio ports on the front panel was implemented sometimes in late 2011, this was part of the V1.1 update that also included other minor improvements. So there are approximately one year worth of V1.0 TJ08-E produced, which will be difficult to find now. 5.25" drive bay mounting holes with offset was added in early 2012 for the V1.2 update. For those of you curious, below is a list of TJ08-E version changes over the years:Thanks for reply.
I've also updated my posts with more questions/issues and pics, but I'm mostly interested in how hard it could be to spot TJ08-E without wide audio cutouts in Europe(are they really rare? I would really like to have one, and fix jack connector itself, without toucinh metal front panel cover itself)
About fan filters, I should have tomorrow "S SIENNOC OC-1341" delivered, that Amazon recommended for me when viewing "Silverstone" results. On photos looks identical like FF143, but costs only 4EUR. Looks like it's OEM or perfect rip-off.
So cheap that I can buy more of them and cut, cuut and cut one after one until perfect fit ;-)
My last question about this case is how PSU and fans should be mounted. Some people claimed on forums that TJ08-E manual states that PSU fan inlet should be directed down (unless it's PSU with passive cooling).
I couldn't find that in manual, and for it's obvious that's not '90s with multiple less power hungry(so less heat) components usually having PSU as only air outake(and only case fan), and there's a reason that today PSUs are mounted on case bottom to have fresh/cool air (you don't want to overheat your pricey PSU, lessening it's lifespan). I do also wonder about usefulness of outtake 120mm fan (I've mounted Noctua D15S with two 138mm in pul-pull config, next to HDDs, so no space for pull config or outtake fan. I'm only asking, because maybe SilverStone already properly benchmarked it and you've got answers already ;-)
About TJ08-E being EOL, I do wonder if Silverstone got better replacement for it, having metal front, 180mm AP and at least two 5.25" bays?
I'm also impressed how well SG016 is engineered with best compromise of size and performance(like TJ08-E fits nearly any AMD GPU), but it looks meh(but still best mITX case and only with proper dust filtration) and doesn't have any 5.25" bays(even non deep, for something like Aquaero or iMON VFD) for customization.
Yes, it's available to buy from places such as Amazon in North America. All revisions of TJ08-E included!Is the CS330 actively being sold in any markets? I remember it being the exact TJ08-E chassis, except with 3x 3.5" hotswap bays as default into the 2x 5.25" slots. I assume it has all of the revisions mentioned above.
THISWhat relevance does your Rogue have with this? Least you can do is not hijack it to show off some random stuff.