Silverstone Modular 450W SFX (ST45SF-G) - Now has a product page - NextQ = When?

FinBuilder said:
Do you know how much does it effect on that v-droop? Maybe I put it there after all. Am I right that I have to make it that double wire way and I can't use that MB side pin 20 for that? I believe that pin had some meaning before but not anymore these days, if I remember right?
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I don't know exactly the v-droop effect, but it can't be that much if Silverstone guarantees ATX compliance without it.

I think pin 20 on MB side used to be -12V, useless now.

If you do a double wire, you can either splice it like I showed above, or crimp the two wires onto the pin, as I show below.

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http://s225.photobucket.com/user/wisk23/slideshow/Double wire
 
Today was my first day of crimping and sleeving and made even some progress:
http://imgur.com/6NPddOa

That 8pin was the practice piece and I made few mistakes in that but I'm comfortable with it. But that 24pin is more fun to do. I made those cables different lenght by pairs so it will sit nicely in the case. Managed to do half of it today, left that double wire for another day to sleeve, I crimped it like in your picture. Thanks for the help!

Here is the wires cutted, so you can see the difference in the lenghts. 8cm difference between the shortest and the longest "pair":
http://imgur.com/3Otaccr
 
That's great FinBuilder, I'm glad you could manage it :)

I spy the famous MDPC-X crimping tool :D
 
Follow up @Wisk

I see why you did the 13 to 20

so theoretically, I should be able to buy any off the shelf straight 24 pin extender cable,(1 to 1 on all pins) then just make a short jump from any 3.3v (pin 13 in your case) to the pin 20 on the PSU side.

I rather avoid the visible 2 to 1, and just have a very short jumper on the PSU side. You see any flaws ?

thanks
 
ptrout said:
so theoretically, I should be able to buy any off the shelf straight 24 pin extender cable,(1 to 1 on all pins) then just make a short jump from any 3.3v (pin 13 in your case) to the pin 20 on the PSU side.

I rather avoid the visible 2 to 1, and just have a very short jumper on the PSU side. You see any flaws ?
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No and yes :)

ST45SF-G has female pins (male housing) at both ends of the cable. Common 24-pin extender cable is actually a male-to-female adapter. Although it appears to be 1-to-1, the male side pinout is a mirror image of the PSU and MB pinout.

But yes, your other idea is okay. You can connect pin 13 PSU-side to pin 13 MB-side and pin 20 PSU-side. Although obviously it doesn't take the sense measurement from the correct place - it's going to be missing the v-droop of the wire itself. But overall it's a bit better than leaving out the pin 20 sense altogether.
 
WiSK said:
No and yes :)

ST45SF-G has female pins (male housing) at both ends of the cable. Common 24-pin extender cable is actually a male-to-female adapter. Although it appears to be 1-to-1, the male side pinout is a mirror image of the PSU and MB pinout.

But yes, your other idea is okay. You can connect pin 13 PSU-side to pin 13 MB-side and pin 20 PSU-side. Although obviously it doesn't take the sense measurement from the correct place - it's going to be missing the v-droop of the wire itself. But overall it's a bit better than leaving out the pin 20 sense altogether.
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Thanks

Going to check if I can get around the vdroop issue, matters for OC i figure.

Hey just saw your thread on OC.net Lol, guess you are the resident expert on the sleeving/pinout of the ST45G :)
 
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ptrout said:
Hey just saw your thread on OC.net Lol, guess you are the resident expert on the sleeving/pinout of the ST45G :)
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There are a lot of pitfalls when sleeving for the first time. I learned a lot the hard way. So I want to share as much as I know for people who want to rewire or sleeve :)

Here's my latest attempt. Next two builds will use ST45SF-G as well.

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WiSK said:
That's great FinBuilder, I'm glad you could manage it :)

I spy the famous MDPC-X crimping tool :D
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Had to get that crimper when I made order from Nils. Next time will get his pin-remover too, this time I had Lamptron version, which is good too, but is already shoving marks of giving up... :D

WiSK said:
There are a lot of pitfalls when sleeving for the first time. I learned a lot the hard way. So I want to share as much as I know for people who want to rewire or sleeve :)

Here's my latest attempt. Next two builds will use ST45SF-G as well.

fh-rebuild-12_zps9c67ad39.jpg
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That is exactly what I was about to do to my PSU too. :D I mean that fan change and cutting that grill of. Although I will probably add wire fan grill to it... I haven't yet started my PSU even for a single time, so I don't even know how loud it is. Will have to test does is even work before I start cutting it. :D
 
Isn't the psu grill needed for EMI shielding? I remember reading this somewhere, don't know how true it is.
 
I should hope the 2.5mm thick side panel of the case will compensate for losing the 0.5mm grill :)
 
@Wisk

Really Great looking PC...

Removing the Grill from the SFX PSU lowered the noise?
 
Thanks NiKa :)

I hoped it would lower the noise, but it was quiet anyway at idle, and at load it seems a bit the same. Or perhaps I adjusted my ears too easily.
 
290X running about a month in my build (see signature), I haven't heard it sweat :)
My energy meter never went over 350W while gaming, from the wall.
 
So I plan on getting the SFX 450W Gold Edition, I also want the 780 SC GTX. Will it be able to power up the GPU no problem? I only ask because for the PSU requirements for the GPU it states 600W and 42A on +12V Rail which is less then what the PSU supplies.

I also bought the i7 4770k, ROG Impact, and normal RAM and will use an SSD.

Any power issues?

If no please state why because I don't understand electricity

Thanks in advance!
 
At stock settings you should be able to run 780SC okay, but I expect you might run into issues if you overclock the CPU as well.

Probably best to invest in a power meter to see actual use from the electrical outlet. Then you can adjust your overclock to stay in safe range.

Also, Open HW Monitor can show you exactly how much power your CPU is using http://openhardwaremonitor.org/
 
Is it ok to leave those 2 extra pins off from the pci-e connector? I only need 2x6pins so that 2pin connector is useless to me...
 
FinBuilder said:
Is it ok to leave those 2 extra pins off from the pci-e connector? I only need 2x6pins so that 2pin connector is useless to me...
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..yeah, no problem. Don't short them though ;)
Tuck the remainder away or cut it off (if not needed ever) and insulate the cable ends carefully (use glue lined heatshrink and press the open end together upon shrinking - nice seal).
 
I was thinking that I take them completely off from the PSU end, so there would be 2 empty pins. Is that still ok?
 
The 550W version of the SFX psu will arrive next year. Yay! Althought what I need are those new set of cables... mmmm.
 
going to be a let down if all they do is squeeze an extra 100w compared to the 450w version
 
AFD said:
My pleasure! And I'm thinking this particular set will make it a lot easier/cleaner to cut & crimp to custom lengths. No sleeving to mess around with.. just remove pins from 1 connector per cable, cut to length, crimp new pins, re-insert into connector.



Couldn't find any.. but I think it's usually 1 to 2 months for a product to hit market once it's been added to their website. But..

While searching for the PP05-E cable set, I stumbled upon a truly magnificent little gem of information (confirming prior correspondence). Dun-dun-duh..

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From page #16 of the SilverStone Fall 2013 Product Presentation (PDF, 7.8MB)..

http://silverstone-usa.com/download/presentation/SilverStone_overview_20131021.pdf

Gold, modular, 550W+, ETA: Jan 1st to Mar 31st. I'm still hoping for semi-fanless tech, though.

C'mon SilverStone.. bring it!!

:D
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Here's the post from the NCase thread
 
illli said:
going to be a let down if all they do is squeeze an extra 100w compared to the 450w version
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You be trollin' ? Who has a more powerful SFX PSU (not those out-of-spec Athena's) than 400W except Silverstone that's actually good ? You should be happy there is something more powerful coming.
 
I won't reject an extra 100w and I doubt others in the SFF category would either. Especially if its a quiet one like lettuceman44 remarked. A 550w unit would be a first the SFX world.
 
illli said:
going to be a let down if all they do is squeeze an extra 100w compared to the 450w version
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Yeah, like you would ever need more in an ITX case that requires an SFX psu to begin with.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
550 watts at 80+ Gold in SFX specification of 100x63.5x125mm packaged with the ridiculously flexible cables on page 49 at around $100 would have me rock [H]ard.
 
Phuncz said:
You be trollin' ? Who has a more powerful SFX PSU (not those out-of-spec Athena's) than 400W except Silverstone that's actually good ? You should be happy there is something more powerful coming.
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not trolling. i personally don't need more than 450. for me i would personally take a 450 that is quieter compared to one with more power and the same (or louder) noise that the previous one. i guess nobody considered the possibility that the 550w one could be noisier than the previous gen. not saying it would be, but thats why i said if its basically the same as the 450w and just 100w more power then thats kind of going to be a letdown for me.
 
Incredible! Thanks for sharing! :)
I was hoping they'd make a non modular version as well :/
 
Somebody in the Ncase M1 thread said that Q2 2014 is more realistic for the 550(+), but one can always hope for Q1. I'll most likely be on it like a winged insect on bovine excrement as soon as it becomes available. :p
 
illli said:
not trolling. i personally don't need more than 450. for me i would personally take a 450 that is quieter compared to one with more power and the same (or louder) noise that the previous one. i guess nobody considered the possibility that the 550w one could be noisier than the previous gen. not saying it would be, but thats why i said if its basically the same as the 450w and just 100w more power then thats kind of going to be a letdown for me.
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We dont know how noisey or quiet it is. It could go either way. One thing I do know is that more choices is good for the consumer. We need more in this segment. Just my thoughts.
 
My opinion is that it'll all come down to noise. Size is right, power is right, output is gold (pun intended).

They need to make the RPM curve nice and smooth not agressive and loud and offcourse make it semi passive.
If they fail at this then it's simply not an interesting product.

They've got a top notch product (as it doesn't have any competitors) and they' afford to put in the best stuff in that little case. Let the price be high. It's worth it.
 
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That is an excellent news!
550W is something that will fill the gap for all mITX builds. Now we will be able to put any GPU in it without worrying about the whole system.

I have plans to start new modding project next year and I simply cannot see it without Silverstone's SFX PSU! Good job guys! :D
 
550W PSU? Could run SLI on an mATX with that. Wonder if Silverstone has a case planned for that in the future.
 
Dang this thing is loud at idle. Bought the noiseblocker fan and will be doing the mod in the next week or two.

Turns a $100 power supply into a $125 power supply :(
 
Smitty2k1 said:
Dang this thing is loud at idle. Bought the noiseblocker fan and will be doing the mod in the next week or two.

Turns a $100 power supply into a $125 power supply :(
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Great.. that just fills me with confidence given i've got one of these waiting to be installed.

Which fan are you talking about and what's the mod? I also want mine to be as quiet as possible.
 
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