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SETI.Germany's 16th Annual Pentathlon (2025)

Gilthanis

Gilthanis

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This post gets updated throughout the event. Always check back for updates!
https://www.seti-germany.de/boinc_pentathlon/
The BOINC Pentathlon starts on 05 May 2024, 00:00 UTC, and ends on 19 May 2024, 00:00 UTC. So, it will run for exactly 14 days. We finished in 5th place last year.

The BOINC Pentathlon consists of 5 disciplines:
  1. Marathon (14 days) - WCG
    Register here if you haven't registered at the project before - http://join.worldcommunitygrid.org/?recruiterId=338542&teamId=BP5XNJBR9N1 (This link should also join you to our team)
    Select ONLY the MCM work units - https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/ms/viewMyProjects.do
    Make sure to turn on data sharing so your stats can be exported - https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/ms/viewDataSharing.action
  2. Sprint (3 days) - SRBase
    Register here if you haven't already joined - https://srbase.my-firewall.org/sr5/ The invitation code for creating new accounts is pillepalle
    Join our team here - https://srbase.my-firewall.org/sr5/team_display.php?teamid=13
  3. City Run (5 days) - Milkyway@home
    Register here if you haven't registered at the project before - https://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/welcome.php
    Join our team at this link - https://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/team_display.php?teamid=1011
  4. Steeplechase (7 days, with bonus credits on 2 one-day obstacles) - Einstein@home
    Register here if you haven't already joined - https://einsteinathome.org/
    Join our team here - https://einsteinathome.org/community/teams/173449
    Make sure to turn on data sharing so your stats can be exported - https://einsteinathome.org/account/prefs/privacy
  5. Javelin Throw (5 x 1 day, only each team's third best daily score counts) - NFS@home
    Register here - https://escatter11.fullerton.edu/nfs/index.php
    Join our team at this link - https://escatter11.fullerton.edu/nfs/team_display.php?teamid=613
    Throw 1 - 5/9 - Skip this throw
    Throw 2 - 5/11 - Do this one
    Throw 3 - 5/13 - Skip this throw
    Throw 4 - 5/15 - Do this one
    Throw 5 - 5/17 - Do this one
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2025 modification
  1. Steeplechase runs for 7 days this time as originally planned, after it was shortened to 5 days on short notice last year.
Previous year's threads
2024 - https://hardforum.com/threads/seti-germanys-15th-annual-pentathlon-2024.2034431/
2023 - https://hardforum.com/threads/seti-germanys-14th-annual-pentathlon-2023.2026968/
2022 - https://hardforum.com/threads/seti-germanys-13th-annual-pentathlon-2022.2018539/
2021 - https://hardforum.com/threads/seti-germanys-12th-annual-boinc-pentathlon-2021.2009895/
2020 - https://hardforum.com/threads/seti-germanys-11-annual-boinc-pentathlon-2020.1995136/
2019 - https://hardforum.com/threads/2019-boinc-pentathlon.1980089/#post-1044154864
2018 - https://hardforum.com/threads/9th-annual-boinc-pentathlon-hosted-by-seti-germany.1957969/
2017 - https://hardforum.com/threads/10th-...sted-by-seti-germany.1980020/#post-1044152665
2016 - https://hardforum.com/threads/7th-annual-boinc-pentathlon-2016.1896285/
2015 - https://hardforum.com/threads/boinc-pentathlon-2015.1858766/

We now have a Discord server that will be replacing Slack. https://discord.gg/vP7bUBS2us

This page is a work in progress.
 
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WCG - MCM work units require a wingman (meaning someone else has to verify your work is accurate)
~ 6 day deadline for initial replication work
Milkyway - All work units are CPU and multi-threaded and no wingman is necessary.
~ 12 day deadline
NFS - 16e is best bang for your buck on points typically. These work units also typically use ~1GB RAM each.
~ 14 day deadline
SRBase - This project uses both CPU's and GPU's. We advise just using GPU's. No wingman is necessary
~ 6 day deadline
Einstein - This project uses both CPU's and GPU's. We advise just using GPU's. They do require a wingman so you will want to download a large cache so that work units are more likely to be completed and returned by the end of the competition.
~ 7-14 day deadline - thus should last the rest of the event. Download a full cache and keep it till the end.
This project also support IGPU's. So, if you have any Intel chips with on chip graphics, you can also run those here.
There will be 2 bonus points days that are randomly announced. This means it is extremely important to bunker your work units and release them on those days.
General Tips for newcomers
1. If you just want a simple way to contribute without advanced configurations or project hopping, just attach to WCG for CPU work units and let it run until the end of the event.
2. Make sure you are joining our team after you create your account at each project.
3. Make sure to double check if the project requires data export permission. You can ask any of us here and I will also try to keep that info in post 1 for easy reference.
 
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All right [H]DCers. The first BOINC pentathlon project marathon (cpu) will be announced anytime from May 1st, 8PM/5PM ET/PT to May 2nd, 8PM/5PM. Note that race starts on May 4th 8PM/5PM or May 5 00:00 UTC, so you can either bunker or run openly. Likely that the marathon project chosen will require quorum of 2. FYI, any credits granted before May 4 8PM/5PM won't be counted towards the team score.

Get your rigs dusted and ready to roll.

Any BOINC and/or project help questions, please post here or visit our discord (see OP first post). We finished 5th as a team since 2022. Can we still finish 5th or higher this year?

You see it remains exciting at the BOINC Pentathlon.
 
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Damn, I've been lazy lately and haven't taken my systems down to the shed to blow out the dust with the compressor. Looks like I'll have to do that within the next few days at least on a day it's not raining.

Also need to prepare for swampass syndrome. It's definitely going to be hot in the room with both systems running full out. But that is normal for the Pentathlon.
 
Just a reminder, due to the fire I will have minimal hardware. And the apt I am at seems to have somewhat shoddy wiring as well. I probably won't be pushing much production but will still do what I can.
 
I'm traveling a lot this month. Gone all the first week and part of the second. I may have to set the marathon and jump in to the other events if I'm able.
 
Gilthanis said:
Just a reminder, due to the fire I will have minimal hardware. And the apt I am at seems to have somewhat shoddy wiring as well. I probably won't be pushing much production but will still do what I can.
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Oh no! Sorry buddy! That makes this taunt so much more difficult:



If you guys and gals actually tried, you MIGHT give TeAm AnandTech a run for their money this Pentathlon. But, sadly, you are just a bunch of.....Breaded Mozzarella Sticks? I LOVE Breaded Mozzarella Sticks. I devour them with Ranch, Honey Mustard, plain, Marinara, Epyc, Ryzen, ThreadRipper, etc.

Get your game on, kiddos! Or at least put your pull-ups on! TAAT needs some competition this year!

Seriously though, love you guys. But TAAT really does hope someone some Team can challenge us this year. We all remember when P3D/SUSA/TSBT/others were so dominant, and we wanted so bad to see them lose....That is now the spot TAAT finds itself in. PLEASE don't make this a boring year for us! Bring it!!!!

For Science, of course. Losers.
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Love ya!

Of course, once you lose at the Pentathlon, you can continue losing at BOINC Games. Individual sign up is required.
 
Spread the word in your Folding/PrimeGrid/other threads, that TAAT is trash talking the TEAM about the Pentathlon!!!!
 
10esseeTony said:
.That is now the spot TAAT finds itself in. PLEASE don't make this a boring year for us!
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Here is my humble suggestion if you want to make this pent not boring: TAAT should form another team, TAAT-B team ;) . I've read many times that during PG challenges and perhaps in other challenges too that TAAT total score can beat combined team on #2, #3,.. spots.

Now is the time to demonstrate that :ROFLMAO: but please check with SG admin that it is ok to form B-team. Maybe both A and B team can take the top two spots. What'd you say?

Or perhaps...?

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Setting up all the hardware I possible can for this

Gilthanis said:
Just a reminder, due to the fire I will have minimal hardware. And the apt I am at seems to have somewhat shoddy wiring as well. I probably won't be pushing much production but will still do what I can.
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that sucks, hopefully we will be fine
 
We are only 5 days away. Start reaching out to everyone you can.
 
Sooooo we don't know the projects yet? Just that the first will be cpu?
 
auntjemima said:
Sooooo we don't know the projects yet? Just that the first will be cpu?
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To keep people from going too nuts with bunkering and the problems that can cause projects aren't announced until a bit before they go live. If memory serves projects are typically announced about two days prior to going live.
 
Jeeper's first post on 16th BOINC Pentathlon.

I think Jeeper meant [H]ard|OCP, not OCP team, lol.
"Can LTT and OCP fight for medals again?"


04/30/25 #whenthepainbegins

In 2023, I asked Chat-GPT if he/she/it could do anything with the Pentathlon. This time I took a look at what Elon has been up to. His cars aren't really my thing, as I prefer six cylinders in my J**p, but Grok is really good at it: Quote: "Haha, that little dig at ChatGPT in the 2023 report? I find it quite amusing! 😄 It shows the community spirit of the BOINC Pentathlon, where you tease the competition with a wink."

Isn't that wonderful? Will we live up to this community spirit in 2025 as well? Because the Pentathlon is a competition, but it's supposed to be fun, of course. We're not here to growl at each other. So, have fun!

The old hands will probably mostly agree with Grok's assessment, right?
  • The Pentathlon promotes the spirit of voluntary computing and rejects monetization systems. Teams that harm projects or other participants risk consequences.
  • Projects often serve as stress tests, which sometimes leads to server problems, but also helps the projects identify weaknesses.
  • Teams must strategically decide how to allocate their computing resources across disciplines, as multiple disciplines are often running simultaneously.


Almost spot on.
We should definitely develop the stress test further this year. Besides, I know there are a few teams out there that are turning it into a challenge.

This proves that the BOINC Pentathlon will have an eternal place in human history. So we're making history, folks. ;-) So behave yourselves, be polite, and always grin into the camera on the screen. You never know who will see your misdeeds in 100 years.

And don't worry, there won't be any customs duties on the delivery and return of the WUs this year either.

You see: There's absolutely no reason not to be there.

While the old hands are already busy sprucing up their computing units for the start, one or two newcomers might still be unsure about the unfamiliar territory. But there's no reason for that. Bring a good mood and just go with the flow of enthusiasm in the teams.

We'll also help to use up excess solar power, especially in Teutonia. Crunching for the energy transition, so to speak, or better: Crunching against the blackout!
All the more negligent not to be there. Crunching is not a security risk, but an absolute safety feature.

So far, 20 teams have registered, although a few regulars haven't yet used their index finger to complete the registration process. With the BOINC Confederation, we also have a returning team that is preparing to improve on #16 from 2017.

Otherwise, there are still a few questions that we will clarify in the next few days:
  • Can TAAT still be stopped?
  • Can LTT and OCP fight for medals again?
  • Does GPU set other goals besides #7?


Are you ready? Do you already have ants in your pants? Can't wait any longer?
If not, then quickly start reading again at the top. For the emotional among you, reading it once is enough; for those with ice water in their veins, it might take a dozen more. But then you'll know it's there:

Pentathlon fever. It's highly contagious and sometimes fatal to non-living forms, but it provides adrenaline rushes and emotions ranging from elation to despair. And last but not least, there's that amazing feeling when the pain subsides. Connoisseurs appreciate this. Because they know that the symptoms will subside from May 19th, followed by mild "I want it again."

What can we expect this year?
There will, of course, be another marathon, and after the long-distance race had to be shortened at short notice at its premiere last year, this time it will last seven days, as originally planned. Javelin throwing, sprinting, and city running are also back. When and which discipline will start is, of course, kept secret until the last minute. So be prepared. The teams' tactical departments are surely already mentally preparing for the upcoming events, because they know:

It's going to be exciting again at the BOINC Pentathlon 2025.

Starting May 5, with the daily report,
this time not just from me.

Your
Jeeper
 
Am I right in my assessment that MCM is a CPU only project? Or is it my boinc setup?

I haven't done DC in over a decade, so dealing with split CPIDs as well, but I think I got a test rig (9800x3d) rolling on the right team, will bring up the epyc shortly).
 
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Is it normal that our team name in the WCG project isn't stylized the same way as other project names?
Or am I accidentally working for some impostor?

I'll throw a few Matisse cores into the ring for the MCM part, but can't really handle anything more and I don't have a GPU. I'm merely imagining what's on the screen based on memories of how everything looks like.
 
Machupo said:
Am I right in my assessment that MCM is a CPU only project? Or is it my boinc setup?

I haven't done DC in over a decade, so dealing with split CPIDs as well, but I think I got a test rig (9800x3d) rolling on the right team, will bring up the epyc shortly).
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Yes, MCM is CPU only.
 
michalrz said:
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Is it normal that our team name in the WCG project isn't stylized the same way as other project names?
Or am I accidentally working for some impostor?

I'll throw a few Matisse cores into the ring for the MCM part, but can't really handle anything more and I don't have a GPU. I'm merely imagining what's on the screen based on memories of how everything looks like.
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For WCG, yes our team name is HardOCP and not [H]ard|OCP. There is a long history in this. I see your name in our team: https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/...d=BP5XNJBR9N1&pageNum=1&numRecordsPerPage=250

Anyway, welcome back. Hope you are getting better.
 
Milkyway is CPU only and also multi-threaded. So, if you have any boxes short on ram or other resources, you can skimp by giving these work units multiple threads.
 
Looks like we have a lot less production this year all around. Rough start out of the gates. 10esseeTony is right. We need more recruits!!

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For anyone needing to limit the number of threads per work unit at Milkyway@home, you can do so at the project preferences page.

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Gilthanis said:
Looks like we have a lot less production this year all around. Rough start out of the gates. 10esseeTony is right. We need more recruits!!
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Looking at free-dc stat at the end of Day 1, seems like I'm the top contributors for both WCG (Marathon) and MilkyWay (City Run) races, lol. Usually I'm in between. Even though we don't expect to have much production this year compare to prior years (I hope I'm wrong and some few big guns will show up late ;) ), I'll keep crunching during the next 13 days of the Pentathlon. WCG is very difficult to bunker unless you run multiple boinc instances with scripts.

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MilkyWay
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Any idea why I'm not showing on the HardOCP stats for WCG? I returned 60k yesterday and am on the correct team according to their site :/

[edit]I've switched the epyc over to 4x 16thread MW@H WUs as I can't get new WUs from MCM again (it also appears their server has been /.'d because I can't log in either)

[edit2] ahh, probably because I still have a split CPID for WCG so it hasn't made it over to free-dc yet. Are the pentathlon stats pulled from free-dc or from the project websites themselves?
 
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Machupo said:
Any idea why I'm not showing on the HardOCP stats for WCG? I returned 60k yesterday and am on the correct team according to their site :/

[edit]I've switched the epyc over to 4x 16thread MW@H WUs as I can't get new WUs from MCM again (it also appears their server has been /.'d because I can't log in either)

[edit2] ahh, probably because I still have a split CPID for WCG so it hasn't made it over to free-dc yet. Are the pentathlon stats pulled from free-dc or from the project websites themselves?
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They all pull from the project themselves. If WCG has you on the team, then you should be good.
Edit: Right now WCG site seems down. So, I cannot check there.
 
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Just allowed display at the WCG site, and am now visible -- sorry about that!
 
Machupo said:
Just allowed display at the WCG site, and am now visible -- sorry about that!
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It is easy to miss. I forgot about it at the start of the event to include it in the steps to check.
 
Day 2 Jeeper's daily commentary: https://www.seti-germany.de/forum/content/1886-BOINC-Pentathlon-2025-Day-2-walkingonthemilkyway

Edit: If anyone wants to give a hand to our team on Javelin throw (NFS@Home), pls let us know here or in our discord channel. It's a much easier project to run and don't have to deal with multithreading like in MilkyWay. There should be ample supply of WUs that are been generated every hour. From what I've encountered, so far there is a one hour window where all the tasks were gobbled up but available in the next hour. Thx.
 
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Machupo I see you are running some NFS. We need you to either bunker that work until throw 2 (not announced yet) or switch those resources to Milkyway@home. Turning in that work right now does NOT help in this event yet. If you need help with bunkering tactics, let us know. I have videos on about 4 different methods of doing it.
 
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I used it briefly to see if I could target GPUs, but that rig should be back on MW@H full time now (suspended NFS). Unless I jacked my settings up, lol. Will check them this evening to confirm.

Is there a bunkering guide somewhere? I think I know what the term means (work but don't submit, draw new work units), but imagine it requires command line config.
 
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