SENTRY 2.0: Evolution of console-sized gaming PC case

Discussion in 'Small Form Factor Systems' started by ZombiPL, Apr 1, 2018.

  1. ZombiPL

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    Quick update:

    - We finally received the funds from Indiegogo,
    - We sent and paid in USD currency for most of the components which will be delivered from outside the EU-zone,
    - We are waiting for an exchange company to exchange funds from USD currency to PLN to start ordering process for parts which will be manufactured in Poland (most of Sentry elements),
    - We turned off the InDemand order option on our Indiegogo campaign page, but it turns out it is not a toggle on-off process, and we have to wait for up to 3 working days until Indiegogo will review our request and turn it off.

    Stay tuned for more updates.
     
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    That power consumption for 3700X. Definitely know what CPU I will put on my Sentry 2.0.
     
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    Any chance to join in on this still?
     
  4. SaperPL

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    Right now you will have to wait for us to deliver all cases to backers, because we will start thinking about what's next only afterwards.

    Note that case manufacturing is not our main line of business, so making another batch may not happen right away.



    From other news, Wendell from Level1Techs checked PCI-E 4.0 compatibility of our riser:



    UFD Tech in their news video yesterday was talking about risers crashing on 4.0, so I assume that either no risers support it fully right now and there will be a need for new 4.0 spec for risers or AMD will have to fix it in their AGESA BIOS.
     
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    Small update on the compatibility spreadsheet

    Super & 5700 series GPUs were added as well as some info on the CPU coolers.

    If there's something we've missed/omitted, please let us know.
     
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    I got Radeon VII as a gift from AMD, but can't put it in my Sentry :'(
     
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    A bit late, but still :p


     
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    Was not able to jump in on the campaign, but looking forward for you next run. Will be getting a black one for sure!. Thanks and keep up the good work.
     
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    I know the Asrock Challenger 5700 (and XT) have been mentioned before as able to fit in the sentry https://www.asrock.com/Graphics-Card/AMD/Radeon RX 5700 XT Challenger D 8G OC/#Specification it also appears that PowerColor is releasing a 5700 (and XT) model cards that will fit in the Sentry as well: https://www.powercolor.com/product?id=1565953800#spe

    I have no idea how either of these cards will perform on thermals, though there is already a video on YT () for the Asrock Challenger 5700 (non-XT) model that says it can get up to high 70s and a little less than 42dBa. That means it could run a little hotter in the Sentry. Just posting here for reference.
     
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    Linus has another video featuring the Sentry 2.0 (it's the one that's hinted at in SaperPL's post above). It's nothing really new, but it's just nice that this case is still getting coverage. It also has a chance to win the PC, but that's obviously highly unlikely.
     
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    There's something I haven't had time to show for some time.


    Some time ago one of the backers asked about various ways we could adapt Black Ridge to the boards other than the Aorus ones that have socket far enough from pci-e slot so the fin stack doesn't obstruct it.


    I found one way to do this, but you'll need different riser set than the one coming with 2.0, if you have 1.1, then you'll just need a single piece. And you need to be extra careful when bending the riser.






    Also for reference if you haven't seen how the complete thing looks inside Sentry 2.0, because Black Ridge obstructs 2.5" drive mounts:


     
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    1st, 2nd and 3rd transport sent :)
     
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    I've already received mine (delivered today).
     
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    is there a consensus on the best cooler for Sentry?
    As far as I understand Black Ridge needs low profile RAM and I have TridentZ that's quite tall, so there are only two options there - Noclua L9A and Cryorig C7 (Copper Edition)?
    Which one should I buy? Looking to build new rig in my Sentry over this holidays period, so I need a recommendation ASAP
     
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    Hmm Cyrorig will give you a better temp but its fan is pretty loud at full load from users complaint while NH-L9a will give you better noise. Zaber tested a those two, Cyrorig will give you about 6-8 C max temp than Noctua (see link below).

    https://smallformfactor.net/forum/t...console-sized-gaming-pc-case.7106/post-116930

    Depending which CPU you are getting, I will take the Noctua over Cyrorig if you are using a 65W TDP CPU and Cyrorig if it is above 65W TDP with a Noctua fan mod if noise is a concern for you.

    It is a shame you don't have a low profile ram, Black Ridge is the best sub 50mm CPU cooler though it may also interfere with motherboard VRM heatsink or shroud.
     
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    Thanks for a reply! I wasn't considering to use Cryorig with their stock fan - I'd replace it instantly with Noctua's fan. But as far as I've heard somewhere - it was causing too much turbulence, so was quite loud?!
     
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    That I am not sure. I don't know if you lived in the US but just to let you know, Cryorig C7 inventory in the US is pretty much non existent, major US retailers haven't gotten any shipment for more than 6 months, but International market is fine, though you have to pay a premium.
     
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    In case you were wondering which type of GPU use (with open-air or with blower-style cooler), Optimum tech made a direct comparison between those cards in console style cases (Senty 2.0) and shoe-box cases (Ghost S1):

     
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    Finally I built it - Sentry with Radeon VII
     

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    How are you planning to close it?
     
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    Ah good eyes, I didn't even notice but yeah the gpu looks like it sticks out beyond the side of the case by the rear i/o. I was wondering more about the thermals... iirc that's a very power hungry gpu.
     
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    I pushed all cables aside and successfully closed the case 8)
    So you can update your GPU compatibility list to include Radeon VII - it fits, but only with low profile power cables. I used this ones - https://www.moddiy.com/products/PCI...pe-Low-Profile-Connector-Extension-Cable.html

    No, GPU fits well, but it needs low profile power supply cables. I haven't had enough time to play with my new build, but thermals seem to be OK - I tested it in Metro Exodus benchmark only and it was around 69 degrees (from the top of my head). AMD recommends 650 Watt PSU for this GPU. I have Corsair SF600 v2.
     
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    So I played Metro Exodus for around 1:30 h and GPU peaked at 80 C because it maintained low fan rpm, was quite silent and CPU (AMD Ryzen 5 1600) peaked at 62 C.
    I am very excited about performance\noise\thermals combination.
    Will try to undervolt GPU, though
     
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    Not bad. Thats a lot of hardware in a tiny package! Though I guess you can say that about almost any Sentry owner :D
     
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    I undervolted Radeon VII to 950mv @ 1800Mhz and after an hour of Metro Exodus CPU and GPU both peaked at 65C. My Sentry is hell of a beast!