Senate Votes to Kill FCC's Broadband Privacy Rules

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It looks like ISPs have been given the green light to sell your browsing history without permission. The Senate has voted to roll back the FCC’s five-month-old decision to require customer approval before sharing web-browsing history, geolocation, financial details, and other sensitive information with third parties. Some say that "Americans will become victims of massive ongoing surveillance from their ISPs.”

…critics of the rules say they are expensive to ISPs and subject them to tough privacy regulations not imposed on web-based companies like Google and Facebook. The FCC's sister agency, the Federal Trade Commission, can bring privacy complaints against web-based companies that aren't ISPs, but the FTC doesn't create privacy regulations, instead typically taking action on a case-by-case basis when companies violate their own privacy promises.
 

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Given the Wikileaks about how the CIA can invade our privacy anyway using backdoors in our smart tvs, smartphones, backdoors in Windows and even in Intel and applie products, maybe they just finally said "fuck it, they all already know anyway" and are doing away with any false pretenses otherwise.
 
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One of the areas I knew we'd be fucked in no matter who got elected.
You don't really know that.

VPN service is really starting to sound better and better.
Well yes and no. It adds a huge inconvenience. First it has to be paid for, and second it deteriorates your service. If you play a multiplayer game, your ping suffers. If the VPN runs out of bandwidth on their end because of too many users, your connection speed suffers.
It's probably good to use a VPN for porn so you can't be easily blackmailed, but that's about it.

EDIT: Maybe it's possible to route only HTTP/HTTPS through the VPN and have the rest on the bare ISP connection. I'm sure it is *possible* but I don't know how difficult it is to set up.
 
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CaptNumbNutz

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3 months in and the FCC has already become non existent, lol.. oh well not surprised given how many companies bought their way into the white house..
Which part of "Senate votes to kill FCC's Broadband Privacy rules" did you misread? This situation has yet to involve the POTUS. Also, the FCC hasn't become non-existant yet with one reversed decision but nice try with the hyperbole.:rolleyes:
 

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again my PSA for a quick Privacy improvements that you can do even for your mother.


HTTPS Everywhere
https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere
Plugin for you favorits browser (Also android support) that makes more of you visited site to be run through HTTPS encryption.

DNScrypt
https://www.dnscrypt.org/
VPN and HTTPS doesn matter if you stil lget you DNS request sendt in the clear.
DNScrypt encapsulated you DNS request and sets it with encryption to dedicated server that support Encrypted DNS request
Remember to select a non logging server.


Those are not as good as using VPN but you are getting closer, and its free
Both of these are set up and forget so even the least tech savy member of the familiy can use those once they are set up
 

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More like massive and obtrusive advertisements. Surveillance would be useless to them unless they use it for something, and advertisement is likely it.
 

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Which part of "Senate votes to kill FCC's Broadband Privacy rules" did you misread? This situation has yet to involve the POTUS. Also, the FCC hasn't become non-existant yet with one reversed decision but nice try with the hyperbole.:rolleyes:

The FCC appointment by POTUS is mega anti net neutrality as well. Whether it's the senate or the FCC itself, we were screwed from the get go.
 

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I wonder how is the word revolution coming up in google trends....

ooohh, look, another kartrashian leaked tape!!

Yeap, we are fucked.
 

CaptNumbNutz

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The FCC appointment by POTUS is mega anti net neutrality as well. Whether it's the senate or the FCC itself, we were screwed from the get go.
And? You're talking about the FCC appointment which has nothing to do with this article. It may involve the Executive Branch at some point, but the article is talking about what the SENATE is doing that is affecting this. (aka Legislative Branch). I guess you too failed to read the article correctly.
 

TAP

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And? You're talking about the FCC appointment which has nothing to do with this article. It may involve the Executive Branch at some point, but the article is talking about what the SENATE is doing that is affecting this. (aka Legislative Branch). I guess you too failed to read the article correctly.

Well if you want to be that way. NOWHERE in the original post you quoted did sirmonkey mention POTUS. YOU did! Perhaps it was you who needs to learn to read!

How you like them apples????
 

CaptNumbNutz

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Well if you want to be that way. NOWHERE in the original post you quoted did sirmonkey mention POTUS. YOU did! Perhaps it was you who needs to learn to read!

How you like them apples????
He said "3 months in" and "White House". Both are a direct reference to the Executive Branch and current POTUS sworn-in in January. I'm not sure who else that references.
Nice try though.:ROFLMAO:
 

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Would be best if we just had a uniform set of rules that applied both to the ISP and the content providers. I think that is what the FCC chairman (aka, "Satan" around here) mentioned some time back.
 
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so....

1) They are killing your right to privacy by blindly selling your information
2) Are trying to reduce social security benefits by 25% in 2035
3) Are trying to kill net neutrality rules

I'm republican because I'm a fiscal conservative, believe in personal responsibility and small government. But our leaders are idiots bought and sold by big lobbyist.
 

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Social security isn't fiscally responsible. But then again our government in general hasn't been fiscally responsible for a while now. Thanks to both parties to one extent or another. And also we have ourselves to blame to some degree.
 
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Social security isn't fiscally responsible. But then again our government in general hasn't been fiscally responsible for a while now. Thanks to both parties to one extent or another. And also we have ourselves to blame to some degree.

The people who you vote for decides in what way they want to be fiscally irresponsible!
 

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How could anyone vote yes to this???
Oh, yeah, someone who is pro-business and has ISP Lobby money in their pocket.

1 step forward for big business to exploit their consumers as a free revenue stream. And 2 steps backwards for consumer right to privacy.

"But critics of the rules say they are expensive to ISPs and subject them to tough privacy regulations not imposed on web-based companies like Google and Facebook."

Expensive? What, expensive not to exploit your customers who you are already charging absurdly high rates for slower interenet speed than other countries?

You can work around using Google and Facebook. You have a choice. And there are tools to help against websites tracking you. As well Google lets you opt out of a lot of stuff. Like personalized ads where they use your data to sell specific ads.

With your ISP, you get zero choice. Their Privacy policies are not transparent. And you have no alternative of moving to a different high speed provider in most cases.
You either get giant conglomerate cable company A or B. Or DSL and SAT. If you are lucky you might get Fiber service from a local company. So you essentially have no choice. You get somewhat fast internet. Or slow internet.


The whole party system is fucked too. There should be no parties. And people should just vote based on weighing the merits and not just because it's along party lines. That shit is dumb.
 

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You don't really know that.


Well yes and no. It adds a huge inconvenience. First it has to be paid for, and second it deteriorates your service. If you play a multiplayer game, your ping suffers. If the VPN runs out of bandwidth on their end because of too many users, your connection speed suffers.
It's probably good to use a VPN for porn so you can't be easily blackmailed, but that's about it.

EDIT: Maybe it's possible to route only HTTP/HTTPS through the VPN and have the rest on the bare ISP connection. I'm sure it is *possible* but I don't know how difficult it is to set up.

What kind of wild ass porn are you watching?
 

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If only there were a service that would put your connection into something that was virtual and private, while also a network.
 
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again my PSA for a quick Privacy improvements that you can do even for your mother.


HTTPS Everywhere
https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere
Plugin for you favorits browser (Also android support) that makes more of you visited site to be run through HTTPS encryption.

DNScrypt
https://www.dnscrypt.org/
VPN and HTTPS doesn matter if you stil lget you DNS request sendt in the clear.
DNScrypt encapsulated you DNS request and sets it with encryption to dedicated server that support Encrypted DNS request
Remember to select a non logging server.


Those are not as good as using VPN but you are getting closer, and its free
Both of these are set up and forget so even the least tech savy member of the familiy can use those once they are set up

I tried HTTPS everywhere. Problem is if the website doesn't support HTTPS, the software keeps trying to force it. Installed it on firefox, had to uninstall.
Not sure about DNS crypt
 

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More people will start using TOR now. I can see this as very bullish news for privacy coins like dash, monero, and so on.
 

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So this means my bill is cut in half right...


right...


this is some pretty ***king valuable information.
 

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I don't blame the recently elected or the current people in power for this. I blame the people who have even on this forum stated the following over and over; "If I'm not doing anything wrong, why should this bother me"? These assholes are the ones to blame for crap like this, because without their complacency these people never get into power. We need to stop blaming the people we vote in for doing exactly what they said they would do if voted in. That is like only treating the symptoms of a disease and wondering why it keeps getting worse.
 

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I don't blame the recently elected or the current people in power for this. I blame the people who have even on this forum stated the following over and over; "If I'm not doing anything wrong, why should this bother me"? These assholes are the ones to blame for crap like this, because without their complacency these people never get into power. We need to stop blaming the people we vote in for doing exactly what they said they would do if voted in. That is like only treating the symptoms of a disease and wondering why it keeps getting worse.

Why not both?
 

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Which part of "Senate votes to kill FCC's Broadband Privacy rules" did you misread? This situation has yet to involve the POTUS. Also, the FCC hasn't become non-existant yet with one reversed decision but nice try with the hyperbole.:rolleyes:


Even more, it was the FTC that had control over these issues before and when they previous FCC decision to classify broadband as a service put the control into the hands of the FCC, it meant the FTC privacy rules no longer had any bite. That's why the FCC had to come up with these rules. They did, and now the Senate is telling the FCC that they were wrong to begin with and they don't have the authority to regulate what they are trying to regulate.

It looks like the Senate has decided that the FCC's power grab was out of line and they are yanking the FCC's chain really really hard. Put that dog back on his leash.
 

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Democrats = The poor / minorities

The normal people in the middle (middle class) haven't had a party for a very long time.

The Democrats are bought and paid for by the Corporations as much as the Republicans. They don;t really care about the poor. They just don't make it as obvious. The past three months, their unwillingness to challenge a lot of things and just accept that the people want a government that works for them and not the Corporations pretty much proves this.

The only way to break this cycle is to keep voting for anyone but the incumbent. Might take a few elections but if they realise (both R & D) its the 99% that gives them the job they might start responding.
 

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I tried HTTPS everywhere. Problem is if the website doesn't support HTTPS, the software keeps trying to force it. Installed it on firefox, had to uninstall.
Not sure about DNS crypt
Dont know why you experinced what you experienced but i Can't confirm. i have had it running for years and never had an issue even for sever without HTTPS support at all. I just get the normal http site.
I'm using it on both CyberFox/win10&7 as wel las FireFox/androig on both my samsung phone and acer tablet.
HTTPS everywhere is a standar plugin i do on all my machines and never ran into an issue. as well as set cookies conotrl to deny 3rd party cookies.


Cryptdns im running through my router (advanced tomato firmware) at home. but through the normal client software at work and on my laptop (since i might use it on other networks than my own)
 

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This what we get when people vote Republican. All they are are Corporate boot lickers. I hope all the Trumper's get wat they deserve, esp the low income ones who thought he was going to be their savior lol.
 
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