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Oh hell no, but 120hz is overkill for gaming anyway. Most of the time the game will look MUCH better with the settings on "ultimate" at 2560x1440 for 60FPS than it would be lowering the settings so that you can get over 60FPS yet alone average 120FPS.it's true 120hz @ 1080p...not interpolated shit from what i've read.
30hz @ 4k
60hz @ 2560x1440
120hz @ 1080p
i'm really tempted to buy one but 1080p @ 39" is not something i wanna do right now.
Oh hell no, but 120hz is overkill for gaming anyway. Most of the time the game will look MUCH better with the settings on "ultimate" at 2560x1440 for 60FPS than it would be lowering the settings so that you can get over 60FPS yet alone average 120FPS.
The monitor cannot draw frames that don't exist (at least withouth interpolation that you don't want because of lag and what not anyway), so unless you have an insanely monster rig or are running old-ass games, 120hz is completely useless.
Interesting that the asus 31.5" is $3,500. Lower contrast ration and lower response time than the Seiki. And it's smaller? 39" is too big for a monitor but still. Huge price difference and i'm not seeing the justification for it. Someone enlighten me?
What doe sthat have to do with what I said?Except this is 120hz input not interpolated output, similar to a true 120hz input monitor.
4K is a shitton of pixels though, so the number one question before even entertaining something like the Asus is to see if people with similar hardware to you can even run at 60FPS with high graphics settings.The main selling point of the ASUS is that it can do 60Hz @ 4k using MST over DisplayPort. And 30" is more manageable on a desktop physically.
Use a slim wall-mount and its not too big at all, at least not with sufficient resolution like this.39" is too big for a monitor but still.
Amen, but I think the appeal is that you have a large size screen for a very reasonable price that will be awesome for 4K desktop realestate.after seeing that article of what it takes to run stuff @ 4k made me scared. TRI-SLI Titans was still stuttery on certain games. I'm cfx 7970 vapor-x's and 4k still scares me quite a bit. Promised the wife I'd slow down this year.
after seeing that article of what it takes to run stuff @ 4k made me scared. TRI-SLI Titans was still stuttery on certain games. I'm cfx 7970 vapor-x's and 4k still scares me quite a bit. Promised the wife I'd slow down this year.
A lot of people seem to think that a 120hz monitor at 60FPS is going to look better than a 60hz monitor, which of course is nonsense.
Reading comprehension fail... the key part was "at that res". I have a fast computer, but I'm fairly confident it would crap itself if I asked it to punch out 120fps at 4096x2160. Remember, 4K is like playing your games on four 1080p screens simultaneously.and I'm not sure what you mean by "most modern titles at that res you can't get 120fps" I'm not sure what "most games" you play, but a TON of games I can max out 120fps... Idie game are fucking awesome at 120Hz, BL2 loves 120Hz, any console port thats codded decently for PC will hit 120fps easily. Who gives a fuck about JUST "most modern titles"? It's all the other games and a lot of newer games that benifit greatly from it now.
I love 120Hz, and I'll never get a monitor with less now.
Amen, but I think the appeal is that you have a large size screen for a very reasonable price that will be awesome for 4K desktop realestate.
1080P movies will still look good, as 39" isn't rediculously huge.
You can then play your games at say 2560x1440 at 60hz, and that doesn't take insane horsepower and a single decent GPU is fine.
And where do I find 4k media?
Oh hell no, but 120hz is overkill for gaming anyway. Most of the time the game will look MUCH better with the settings on "ultimate" at 2560x1440 for 60FPS than it would be lowering the settings so that you can get over 60FPS yet alone average 120FPS.
The monitor cannot draw frames that don't exist (at least withouth interpolation that you don't want because of lag and what not anyway), so unless you have an insanely monster rig or are running old-ass games, 120hz is completely useless.
Whats with all the love for small monitors. I'm still rocking my 37" westy. Im getting to that age where I need to put on my light prescription reading glasses if I'm using a 24" all day like at work. I love getting home and using my westy.
The 37" westy is 1080P and I love it for gaming. This 39" sounds like a beast with that crazy high desktop resolution, but still has the ability to play games @ 1080. Really tempted.
People really need to develop 4th grade reading comprehension skills before going on childish rants.Honestly, anyone who says 120hz is overkill are completely uneducated.
I suppose you also run around telling folks the human eye cannot detect anything over 30fps right?
People really need to do some research before spewing bullshit.
WHO CARES??? Dude, that's just a FEW games... when MOST games in this world will be awesome at 120Hz/Fps You're missing my point... 95%+ of the time you DEFINITELY benefit from a 120Hz Monitor. That's like saying having a car that can do 150mph is pointless when speed limits are 60mph...People really need to develop 4th grade reading comprehension skills before going on childish rants.
You can't draw frames that don't exist, so if you are averaging 45FPS at 2560x1440 like I typically do, you will not benefit from a 120hz monitor.
I said that 120hz is pointless if you can't break 60fps on your games at the insanely high resolutions that 4K HDTVs are capable of. I don't think you grasp the concept of how much graphical power it takes to run four 1080p screens simultaneously.
And high resolution IS very beautiful. I would take a 120hz 2560x1440 monitor over a 60hz one, but I'd take a 60hz 2560x1440 with a 4096x2160 resolution for desktop (wonderful for photoshop or adobe premiere where you are generally working with 24fps or 30fps footage) over a 120hz 1080p screen any day of the week even at twice the price.
How old are you?WHO CARES??? Dude, that's just a FEW games... when MOST games in this world will be awesome at 120Hz/Fps You're missing my point... 95%+ of the time you DEFINITELY benefit from a 120Hz Monitor. That's like saying having a car that can do 150mph is pointless when speed limits are 60mph...There is going to be many many times where you will be thankful you have the power. And it makes upgrading video cards more fun, cause you get more out of it then normal 60Hz people.
You need to understand that 4K doesn't even support anything above 30Hz... so fps above 30fps is pointless so your whole speal is just dumb. BTW, I wouldn't take 30Hz over ANYTHING, I don't care how big it is, that would cause the worst headaches of your life. That's retarded... And...Everyone knows 4k is crazy to run games at on current video hardware...![]()
The reviewer is absolutely right if you are planning to put this in your living room to use as a HDTV. There isn't enough 4K content, you can get bigger screens for the same as the MSRP, the screen is too small to realize the benefit from a normal couch viewing distance, the remote control is bad, video processing isn't the best, and edge-lit TVs don't have the best color uniformity or blackest blacks. Note also that the reviewer thinks this set costs nearly twice what its selling for here.http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/seiki-se50uy04-4k-uhd/4505-6482_7-35757100.html
Thats for the 50", but same concept here. Why bother with this when the picture quality is crap? You cant game at 4K because of the refresh rate, and there is essentially no 4K content, and if you use 1080P content, its going to look like a really shitty 1080P TV.
People really need to develop 4th grade reading comprehension skills before going on childish rants.
I said that 120hz is pointless if you can't break 60fps on your games at the insanely high resolutions that 4K HDTVs are capable of. I don't think you grasp the concept of how much graphical power it takes to run four 1080p screens simultaneously.
Oh hell no, but 120hz is overkill for gaming anyway.
as 120FPS average is 2560x1440 is virtually impossible to achieve on most modern titles at highest graphics settings on the average gaming computer anyway.
A lot of people seem to think that a 120hz monitor at 60FPS is going to look better than a 60hz monitor, which of course is nonsense.
It looks the same... And having a 120Hz monitor (which I do), Is awesome to have because if you are able to run games at 60+ FPS, you will actually see the FPS that goes 60+ In fact it happens A LOT. and I'm not sure what you mean by "most modern titles at that res you can't get 120fps" I'm not sure what "most games" you play, but a TON of games I can max out 120fps... Idie game are fucking awesome at 120Hz, BL2 loves 120Hz, any console port thats codded decently for PC will hit 120fps easily. Who gives a fuck about JUST "most modern titles"? It's all the other games and a lot of newer games that benifit greatly from it now.
I love 120Hz, and I'll never get a monitor with less now.
I fully get using it as a monitor (which cnet even brings up), but the only place I see that being useful is having many spreadsheets/browsers up at the same time on the same screen. I just don't feel personally that its worth it for the loss in picture quality in games/movies/etc... Plus how chuggy even normal desktop usage feels at 30Hz.The reviewer is absolutely right if you are planning to put this in your living room to use as a HDTV. There isn't enough 4K content, you can get bigger screens for the same as the MSRP, the screen is too small to realize the benefit from a normal couch viewing distance, the remote control is bad, video processing isn't the best, and edge-lit TVs don't have the best color uniformity or blackest blacks. Note also that the reviewer thinks this set costs nearly twice what its selling for here.
This is hardforum, and we're talking about a completely different use as a computer monitor. You're going to be sitting up close, you don't want anything bigger than 42" tops that close, you won't use the remote, your 4K content is your desktop for multitasking, photo/video editing, etc, you're going to turn off all video processing anyway, you're surely going to run at lower 2560x1440 resolution for games which bumps the refresh up to a regular 60hz, and being edge-lit is advantageous as it means its ultra-thin and thus will look great on an ultra-thin wallmount over your desk, and its selling for way less than the $1500 MSRP sets he was comparing it to.
Totally different application!![]()
This is a TV, so Amazon will price match if you chat with them.I could have sworn this thing was at least 100 cheaper the other day on amazon
amazon still has a bundle deal for the 700 that includes a flat wall mount and cables and the like
http://www.amazon.com/Seiki-SE39UY0...&sr=1-1-fkmr2&keywords=Seiki+39"+Class+LED+4K
I'd love to see this thing set up somewhere. Running a 30" the corners are already so far off axis I use them very little (desktop, gaming different story, I'll take all the FOV I can get), but the pixel pitch is far larger than a 30" so it can probably be set further back. That said, depending on the type of pixel array the text might still be fuzzy even with per pixel mapping (the Sony 4k looked a little fuzzy). If I had the space I'd love to gamble with 650 bux and get this thing.
As for reviews, they're not bad. Most people appear to be using it as a monitor not a TV. It is, after all, the largest 120Hz 1080p monitor you can get.
Edit: Scratch that, if the 50" does 1080p/120Hz then it's the largest. Unless the Sony 65" XBR does 1080p/120Hz, then it is. Unless there's something larger.