Seagate Rolls Out 8TB 'Customer Development' HDDs

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This week Seagate introduced its major commercial customers to a preview of what may be coming in the not-so-distant-future of massive storage HDD’s. Samples of 8TB hard drives were shipped to preferred customers for testing and feedback on the new drives.

Keeping in mind that Seagate talks about 8TB “customer development units”, the actual commercial drives of such capacity are probably several quarters, if not years, away from mass production and adoption.
 
1 drive fails (if you don't have raid 1) your screwed. That's a lot of data to lose.
 
I plan to upgrade my RAID of 12 1.5TB drives in a year or so. If I end of replacing them with 8TB drives and devote two disks to parity, that's an 80TB array!
 
At the rate flash memory is getting cheaper it will only be a few more years until TB SSDs are cheap enough to start using for general storage. The fact we are still using a mechanical component in a computer blows me away.
 
Maybe it's just me but over this last year or so we've seen some significant leaps compared to the preceding few years.

But honestly, enough with these regular platter drives, where is all this fancy magic "hard drive" tech they kept talking about like holographic, etc etc
 
I plan to upgrade my RAID of 12 1.5TB drives in a year or so. If I end of replacing them with 8TB drives and devote two disks to parity, that's an 80TB array!

Those 1.5TB are hard to find in retail locations now-a-days. They proved to not be very popular . I do have one that is active service. I never quite know what to do with it though.
 
I'm curious what disk sizes they could come up with if they created a larger form factor with current techniques. I know vibrations get kind of ridiculous if the platters are too lengthy, which limit how close you can stack the platters. However, there should be an ideal ratio as we're approaching the physical limits of these materials.
 
Those 1.5TB are hard to find in retail locations now-a-days. They proved to not be very popular . I do have one that is active service. I never quite know what to do with it though.

Its not as convenient for drive manufacturers. I mean a 1.5TB drive requires 2 disks. Although only 3 heads instead of 4 for a 2 TB drive.
 
At the rate flash memory is getting cheaper it will only be a few more years until TB SSDs are cheap enough to start using for general storage.

I expect in a few years we will have 10TB hard drives for the same price as 1TB SSDs. Although 3D NAND has some potential to decrease NAND cost.
 
1 drive fails (if you don't have raid 1) your screwed. That's a lot of data to lose.


You lose any amount of data and it's a kick in the pants regardless of how much. My biggest hit was a WD 27.3GB HDD that I still have today in hope that someday I'll get it to work and recover 27,000 mp3's.


I guess it's HAMR time for Seagate.
 
Those 1.5TB are hard to find in retail locations now-a-days. They proved to not be very popular . I do have one that is active service. I never quite know what to do with it though.

I think its more all the damn hardware gremlins all the drive makers had with 1.5 for the longest time that did that, then they just made way less cause consumers were hyper paranoid and wouldn't buy them regardless
 
I mean christ, nobody I know right now wants to touch WD drives after their whole Red Line got proven to be a laughing stock of bullshit
 
You lose any amount of data and it's a kick in the pants regardless of how much. My biggest hit was a WD 27.3GB HDD that I still have today in hope that someday I'll get it to work and recover 27,000 mp3's.


I guess it's HAMR time for Seagate.

I lost a drive years ago with all my pictures on it. Many of which has pictures of my dad who is no longer here. At the time I had no money to have it backed up to another drive.

That sucked. :(
 
These will be perfect for Blu-ray rips and Internet porn.
 
I lost a drive years ago with all my pictures on it. Many of which has pictures of my dad who is no longer here. At the time I had no money to have it backed up to another drive.

That sucked. :(

A $0.25 DVD-R could have save that for you. I save everything really important on multiple sets of media, plus give a copy to a relative. IE. give a DVD copy of your pictures of your dad to your siblings, I'm sure they'd like it and would be willing to send you a copy if something happened to yours.
 
1 drive fails (if you don't have raid 1) your screwed. That's a lot of data to lose.

Size is irrelevant. Question is whether or not its backed up.

I swear every time a new size factor comes out there's always a chorus of "derp that's a lot of data to lose" comments. Some things never change.
 
At the rate flash memory is getting cheaper it will only be a few more years until TB SSDs are cheap enough to start using for general storage. The fact we are still using a mechanical component in a computer blows me away.

It's wrong to assume drives will get linearly cheaper based on the current rate of price drops. NAND doesn't scale indefinitely, just like processor scaling has hit a wall and fabs struggle with smaller sizes now causing longer and longer delays every time new CPU's or GPU's are announced, same is already happening with flash NAND.

The idea that flash storage catches up with spinners for large bulk storage any time in the next 5-10 years is laughable.
 
Shit man, if one of these drives died on me and I lost all of the data on it, I'd just get down on the ground and start crying like a little baby.
 
I use crashplan for local and offsite backup. It is excellent and low cost. You can even just do local backup for free or install it on your relatives computers and they backup to your server/PC for free.

Regardless, my machine has been loaded with several 4TB drives so it would be nice to transition to 8TB instead of the 5TB drives that are out now.
 
2TB platters? I'll take one drive in any configuration please!
 
At the rate flash memory is getting cheaper it will only be a few more years until TB SSDs are cheap enough to start using for general storage. The fact we are still using a mechanical component in a computer blows me away.

Fans and water pumps. Until CPUs, GPUs and Power Supplies are end up being able to be passively cooled and offer high performance, there's always going to be mechanical components in a system.

For most normal folks, that point is already here (swapping out for flash media) as a 1TB SSD is under $475 most times when there is a sale.
 
Shit man, if one of these drives died on me and I lost all of the data on it, I'd just get down on the ground and start crying like a little baby.

This is why you make mirrored backups.

Seriously, are some you people still so stupid that the thought of making backups, with this amount of high capacity storage, STILL doesn't occur to you?
 
Yea, exactly what I said about my 1.2GB quantum bigfoot.
Petty much any drive failure results in cursing the heaven, unless you super backup everything. I only back up files that i'd probably kill myself if i lost em and those files are backed up in multiple places.
 
Size is irrelevant. Question is whether or not its backed up.

I swear every time a new size factor comes out there's always a chorus of "derp that's a lot of data to lose" comments. Some things never change.

Well it is quite a lot of data to back up with the understanding that you are testing a pre-production drive. Seagate also doesn't have the best rep for reliability in recent times. However it is good to know sizes are getting larger.

Funny though , for me at least , I've had more SSDs fail on me in recent times than HDDs.
 
Size is irrelevant. Question is whether or not its backed up.

I swear every time a new size factor comes out there's always a chorus of "derp that's a lot of data to lose" comments. Some things never change.

Because some drep is going to use 1 drive to save everything on to and say "it's my backup drive."
 
I plan to upgrade my RAID of 12 1.5TB drives in a year or so. If I end of replacing them with 8TB drives and devote two disks to parity, that's an 80TB array!

you're really serious about your pr0n collection aren't you?
 
I lost a drive years ago with all my pictures on it. Many of which has pictures of my dad who is no longer here. At the time I had no money to have it backed up to another drive.

That sucked. :(



Oh man that sucks I feel your pain, not to the same extent though. Lost all my military photos and videos that I wanted to archive and that was really depressing.

Thank god backing up is much easier these days then in the past. After multiple loses I now treat backing up data as a priority cost whenever considering data storage.
 
4TB HDs are what, 5 years old now? My guess is these drives end up costing 4X the price of 2x 4TB drives.
 
At the rate flash memory is getting cheaper it will only be a few more years until TB SSDs are cheap enough to start using for general storage. The fact we are still using a mechanical component in a computer blows me away.

Enterprise level SSD's are alot more expensive that consumer SSD's.
I can buy a 4TB enterpise level HD for less than a 1TB consumer SSD, and the amount of read/writes on a Server would kill the SSD in a couple years, while a HD would likely still be working 6 years later.

I've had very few hard drive failures on my servers even on servers that are over 6 years old.
 
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