School Can Force Teenagers To Wear RFID

Antiokus said:
What people neglect to worry about is the fact that there are motion cameras all over these building literally tracking your actual movement - but those are completely fine.
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What? I've never been to a school with motion cameras anywhere.
 
LeninGHOLA said:
My high school had them in several rooms and some campus access points. This a little over a decade ago.
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My school had armed cops in it around that long ago too but people still have issue with this too. It's life!
 
MasonD said:
My school had armed cops in it around that long ago too but people still have issue with this too. It's life!
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We had a security officer, no gun but he was allowed things like pepper spray, batons and JEET KUN DO
 
There is an easy solution to this that should make the Libertarians happy (since they have been asking for it for years) ... get rid of government funded public education ... make all schools private ... a private school could do this and you have no violation of your rights since private industry has no restrictions on how they track you or monitor you within their facilities ... problem solved :p
 
OEM said:
Good. Kids are idiots and aren't to be trusted.
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qbert95 said:
training kids from an early age that they must be subservient to those in power is very important in the new america. Obey!
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And teaching them that they don't have to answer to anyone and that there is no such thing as responsibility is the reason why there are millions of people living off of the government.
 
LeninGHOLA said:
My high school had them in several rooms and some campus access points. This a little over a decade ago.
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Really? Sounds like I was in high school about the same time, and I regularly visited other high schools in the area, but I never was in one with cameras. At least, not one where the cameras were at all visible.
 
Stiletto said:
Really? Sounds like I was in high school about the same time, and I regularly visited other high schools in the area, but I never was in one with cameras. At least, not one where the cameras were at all visible.
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I graduated in 2003.. my high school also had cameras in the hallways.
 
OEM said:
And teaching them that they don't have to answer to anyone and that there is no such thing as responsibility is the reason why there are millions of people living off of the government.
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Responsibility is not learned by being conditioned to accept tracking devices by government dictate. If anything, those who learn to rely on the government to run their lives for them end up doing the same later in life...resulting in the people you and I seem to share frustration over.
 
chockomonkey said:
I graduated in 2003.. my high school also had cameras in the hallways.
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I graduated in 2000. All we had for security was a liaison officer, and he wasn't armed. No cameras. The nearby schools didn't even have a cop.
 
Stiletto said:
I graduated in 2000. All we had for security was a liaison officer, and he wasn't armed. No cameras. The nearby schools didn't even have a cop.
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We had a cop but he was always in the parking lot stopping people from skipping school lol
 
chockomonkey said:
I graduated in 2003.. my high school also had cameras in the hallways.
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So did mine (have cameras), as well as with metal detectors at the doors. Off topic: I even seen the principle damn near beat two kids up to stop them from fighting before.


(I give too much away ;))
 
Stiletto said:
Really? Sounds like I was in high school about the same time, and I regularly visited other high schools in the area, but I never was in one with cameras. At least, not one where the cameras were at all visible.
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Yep, also CCTV on 4-5 blind corners where kids would go smoke. No metal detectors, no cameras in the classroom or anything.

The CCTV was obvious, but the motion cameras were not. The only reason I knew about those was because I was a sysadmin the last 2 years for my own high school.
 
Ducman69 said:
1) There are even greater security concerns at schools now, following the shootings we've had these past years, and while not foolproof its certainly a layer of security.

RFID tracking just makes sense.
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Explain to me how tracking kids will make them safer. You are just saying words.....

RFID tracking just makes zero sense.
 
Here are a few facts that the Yahoo article was unclear about.

The Jay Science and Engineering Academy, the school with the RFID badges, is part of the San Antonio magnet school program. This program is designed to allow students to pursue their interests and give them a head start in their chosen career path. Most of the magnet schools allow any student from the county to APPLY to attend.

Andrea Hernandez was offered the option of wearing the badge WITHOUT the RFID tag by school district officials when she refused to wear the RFID equipped badge, but she refused this option. At this point, the officials reassigned her to her neighbourhood high school, which does not require the wearing of student ids..

She sued the on the grounds that the requirement to wear ANY student id badge violated her constitutional rights and religious beliefs.

She is not denied a publicly funded education.
 
How does this work specifically in this instance? If I slip my RFID badge into Sally's backpack (she has the same classes as me) and the teacher now doesn't bother checking who is there because the machine does it, that makes it easier for me to ditch and the system less secure.

If there is a guy counting beeps and looking at students as they walk onto campus, well he might as well just be asking for their ID number or name, punching it in and comparing the picture that comes up.

So I'm trying to understand how this actually works and how it supposedly makes anything more secure than a human comparing pictures.
 
Stiletto said:
What? Parents teaching? Preposterous. Children must only be taught in state institutions by unionized political activists who will walk out of work the minute their bargaining rights are touched.
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To be fair, if everyone was willing to protect their right as much we wouldn't have anywhere near the number of infringements on them.
 
MasonD said:
Mine had off duty cops with Taser guns (they used) and laser guns I wanted to see them use. :D



Okay, I'm lying about the laser gun part..whatever!
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My school had nuns backed by the full power of the Almighty. They knew where you were and what you were thinking without even looking. They possessed a scowl greater than any weapon known to man.
 
r00k said:
know many home-schooled kids who are socially just fine, as well as academically trounce their peers.
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The academics was the important part for me.
My kid takes the standardized testing at the private school where she has a couple classes (they also do the paperwork for the state which avoids alot of hassles). As long as her scores stay in the top 80% range (compared to the private schools) or around 90% (compared to public schools), she gets to stay home schooled. No presure :)

One big advantage is the ability to take a day off, or take a vacation during the normal school year. You can either bring the work with you, or have them do the work on other days or weekends.
 
swimming pool said:
My school had nuns backed by the full power of the Almighty. They knew where you were and what you were thinking without even looking. They possessed a scowl greater than any weapon known to man.
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You forgot about rulers & yard sticks, wielded with the skill of a Jedi :)
 
Stiletto said:
Did the ID tell them where you were at all times?
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No but we do take attendance in all periods. If it weren't too cumbersome we would track bathroom breaks if they went to the wrong one or other rooms during passes.

When I was in gradeshool you didn't have to do an all call for a student, it was known exactly where that student was, high school to a certain point too.
 
Okay, let's put this in the right thread, thanks! :)

I'm okay with RFID-tagged children. Kids need to get used to being part of an institutionalized society where they're pretty much treated like a UPS-tracked package or a moo-cow out grazing because that's what mostly they turn into unless they end up as like one of the tiny handful that are super-mega-awesome rich. They need to learn how to be tagged and how to be okay with being tracked just like they need to learn to identify themselves by broad, easily ingested group labels like "gamer" or "libertarian" or "yes man" because that's where they're almost all going anyhow. This gets them used to real life and also protects the schools from liability and stupid parent lawsuits. I say implant the ID chip and give it GPS tracking. Go big or go home.
 
SkribbelKat said:
Okay, let's put this in the right thread, thanks! :)

I'm okay with RFID-tagged children. Kids need to get used to being part of an institutionalized society where they're pretty much treated like a UPS-tracked package or a moo-cow out grazing because that's what mostly they turn into unless they end up as like one of the tiny handful that are super-mega-awesome rich. They need to learn how to be tagged and how to be okay with being tracked just like they need to learn to identify themselves by broad, easily ingested group labels like "gamer" or "libertarian" or "yes man" because that's where they're almost all going anyhow. This gets them used to real life and also protects the schools from liability and stupid parent lawsuits. I say implant the ID chip and give it GPS tracking. Go big or go home.
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What if you are Libertarian Gamer Yes Man ... the club meetings seem awful small for that group :D
 
SkribbelKat said:
Okay, let's put this in the right thread, thanks! :)

I'm okay with RFID-tagged children. Kids need to get used to being part of an institutionalized society where they're pretty much treated like a UPS-tracked package or a moo-cow out grazing because that's what mostly they turn into unless they end up as like one of the tiny handful that are super-mega-awesome rich. They need to learn how to be tagged and how to be okay with being tracked just like they need to learn to identify themselves by broad, easily ingested group labels like "gamer" or "libertarian" or "yes man" because that's where they're almost all going anyhow. This gets them used to real life and also protects the schools from liability and stupid parent lawsuits. I say implant the ID chip and give it GPS tracking. Go big or go home.
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SkribbelKat: I know people who completely agree with this statement so I don't know if you are joking. Are you?

Apparently I went to school on a different planet:
No cops
No security guards
No cameras
No hall passes
No thugs
No knives
No guns

My last GF went to school 60 miles from me in a bad neighborhood of the big city. They had all of the above.
 
You sure, you didn't have any cameras or knives?

Mine had hidden cameras, which no one knew about til a food fight broke out and people were suspended or something.

And knives... well, kitchens usually have those.
 
pothb said:
You sure, you didn't have any cameras or knives?

Mine had hidden cameras, which no one knew about til a food fight broke out and people were suspended or something.

And knives... well, kitchens usually have those.
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Okay, as far as I know, no one was ever threatened by another student with a knife.

There was a similar incident in the cafeteria involving the Vice P and the perps weren't caught until they bragged about it to a teacher. So probably no hidden cameras.

Look, I lived in an area where the people were normal. There were a few stoners, a few bullies, and that was it. Now, the schools are full of students who have gone insane from the marxist brainwashing. They act out, drop out, shoot out, or shoot up.

As soon as the guv finishes disarming the last American troublemakers, the world will descend into slavery. The elite will play their games with our lives until someone exterminates everyone with an engineered bioweapon. Not much of a future to look forward to. If you don't want that future, better take that RFID chip and stick it somewhere it will do some good.
 
TheArTcher said:
SkribbelKat: I know people who completely agree with this statement so I don't know if you are joking. Are you?
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Let's suppose that I'm not joking. Why does it matter at all what my opinion is on the matter? It doesn't change anything about the situation and it's pretty unlikely that any discussion on the Internet over such a polarizing topic will do anything other than waste everyone's time and get people upset at one another when they could be happily hugging their adopted pet kitty instead.
 
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