They said marijuana offenses, they didn't specify if they were trafficking or not.I note that I believe only two states currently permanently remove voting rights for non-felons.
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They said marijuana offenses, they didn't specify if they were trafficking or not.I note that I believe only two states currently permanently remove voting rights for non-felons.
Secondly, you refute your own argument. And I quote "but also to stop the person from committing any more crimes (even in prison)". I am not aware of any modern case where someone on death row has committed a criminal act. Therefore, you undermine your own death penalty argument, as life imprisonment is sufficient to prevent the prisoner from committing any more crimes.
Thirdly, the role of prisons should not be to punish, but to reform. It's that think that is a leading factor in prison re-admittance rates. If we spent money on teaching skills necessary to hold a steady job, rather then punishment, we'd reduce both crime and expenses in one go.
So...five over on the freeway is the same as fifty over in a school zone? They're both speeding, and since (you believe that) severity is determined solely by the type of the crime...
Contact high is most likely a myth per the research. I mean unless they were chain smoking joints in a small totally enclosed area. 16 joints an hour is what was tested.
Maybe the kid was just retarded?
Links in articles to studies.
https://www.businessinsider.com/randi-kaye-contact-high-2014-1
Most pot use, like alcohol use is responsible.
Working in restaurants though— alcohol was a much bigger issue than the stoners. The pot heads never got drunk during shift and tried to fight the owner. Drunks did twice though lol.
Yeah they do... Drunks eat too. They're just way sloppierBut the drunks don't sneak into the walk-in freezers and munch the deserts
Eating up the profits .... literally.
But the drunks don't sneak into the walk-in freezers and munch the deserts
Eating up the profits .... literally.
What about the degenerates who drink and smoke?Yeah they do... Drunks eat too. They're just way sloppier
HahaWhat about the degenerates who drink and smoke?
I mean what about me?
Blinded by me you can't see a thing.drugs are bad
The problem with minor pot convictions is to my understanding they preclude you from federally backed student loans and I know they preclude you from military service and many government jobs.Also interesting about this thread: The number of people assuming that a conviction means the defendant was guilty. Innocent people often have very strong financial incentives to plead guilty to a lesser charge, and going to trial is risky.
to my understanding they preclude you from federally backed student loans and I know they preclude you from military service and many government jobs.
If you support drinking and don't support marijuana use, something is a bit off here.
Hehe , yep.. Just keep thinking cop, nightstick and raybans or something.Lol whoda guessed this forum is full of Nancy Reagans
Possessing and consuming alcohol is legal in all 50 states. Marijuana is not. I am not going to tell my kids to not possess and use illegal drugs based on some moral high ground. I am going to tell them to avoid it because the juice isn't worth the squeeze.
Nothing good comes from a criminal record.
Also, being a parent is pretty much being a hypocrite. I am going to tell them not to do things that I did... full stop.
If you support drinking and don't support marijuana use, something is a bit off here.
It has to start somewhere and the way things are this is it's best chance until certain elders are not in officeNot at all. I wouldn't even support marijuana use in Colorado where rec use is legal...... because it's still illegal federally. Telling someone it's OK in your state is a great way to fuck up people job opportunities in the future.
I vote against it exactly because of this reason. I will not support pot in my State until after the Feds back off and legalize it for the country. It's just a huge false flag/mixed message for young people to fuck themselves up with.
It has to start somewhere and the way things are this is it's best chance until certain elders are not in office
10k for a pot farm doesn’t even turn on the lights.Not at all. I wouldn't even support marijuana use in Colorado where rec use is legal...... because it's still illegal federally. Telling someone it's OK in your state is a great way to fuck up people job opportunities in the future.
I vote against it exactly because of this reason. I will not support pot in my State until after the Feds back off and legalize it for the country. It's just a huge false flag/mixed message for young people to fuck themselves up with.
And BTW, we just received renewed emphasis from the Army's Command that pot is still illegal federally and that we even have to watch out with investments as investing in pot farming or farming pot yourself remains illegal from a government employee angle. Yes, they are even saying pot stocks are out of bounds for government employees.
Reading some of the documents on it, it would seem that the Feds are still coming to grips with all the angles of these issues. For instance, I'm pretty sure they would have a problem with me loaning Uncle Fester $10K for his pot farm, legal or otherwise in his state. The also might not like me investing in a company who's company profile included cultivation of recreational and medical weed. But medical weed only might be different. The word "knowingly" came up with a suggestion that investing in a mutual fund without realizing that the fund has a pot stock in it would probably be overlooked. What about investing in Anheuser-Busch?
Can I invest in BUD or not because they have branched out in their product line-up?
I'm hoping that the federal government will eventually come around and relent on this issue and leave it to the States to determine it on their own. Either that or they have to "bring the states to heal", and I'm not really for that approach. Flies in the face of my views on States rights and just what our Government should and shouldn't be getting into.
Not at all. I wouldn't even support marijuana use in Colorado where rec use is legal...... because it's still illegal federally. Telling someone it's OK in your state is a great way to fuck up people job opportunities in the future.
I vote against it exactly because of this reason. I will not support pot in my State until after the Feds back off and legalize it for the country. It's just a huge false flag/mixed message for young people to fuck themselves up with.
And BTW, we just received renewed emphasis from the Army's Command that pot is still illegal federally and that we even have to watch out with investments as investing in pot farming or farming pot yourself remains illegal from a government employee angle. Yes, they are even saying pot stocks are out of bounds for government employees.
Reading some of the documents on it, it would seem that the Feds are still coming to grips with all the angles of these issues. For instance, I'm pretty sure they would have a problem with me loaning Uncle Fester $10K for his pot farm, legal or otherwise in his state. The also might not like me investing in a company who's company profile included cultivation of recreational and medical weed. But medical weed only might be different. The word "knowingly" came up with a suggestion that investing in a mutual fund without realizing that the fund has a pot stock in it would probably be overlooked. What about investing in Anheuser-Busch?
Can I invest in BUD or not because they have branched out in their product line-up?
I'm hoping that the federal government will eventually come around and relent on this issue and leave it to the States to determine it on their own. Either that or they have to "bring the states to heal", and I'm not really for that approach. Flies in the face of my views on States rights and just what our Government should and shouldn't be getting into.
Sorry, but we'll have to disagree on this. In most cases reform doesn't work, it just leads to smarter criminals that are harder to catch.
The worse the crime, the more likely they will commit similar crimes once they are released.
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Section 8
1: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States
Title 21 of the United States Code governs Food and Drugs in the United States Code (U.S.C.).
Give this one a quick read and see it's references to your issue. I think you will have a hard time applying the Tenth to this.
The Congress makes the following findings and declarations:
(1) Many of the drugs included within this subchapter have a useful and legitimate medical purpose and are necessary to maintain the health and general welfare of the American people.
(2) The illegal importation, manufacture, distribution, and possession and improper use of controlled substances have a substantial and detrimental effect on the health and general welfare of the American people.
What a dumb stance. Do you need to be a murderer to be objective on murder? A rapist for rape?If you have never taken a hallucinogen, I outright question your ability to be objective.
Too many squares in this forum looking down their noses at others for things they know nothing about.
What a dumb stance. Do you need to be a murderer to be objective on murder? A rapist for rape?
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