Samsung's first Odyssey gaming monitors include a 240Hz ultra-wide

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Are you actually a fan of these Extreme Curved monitors? They seem horrible to me, and this one is too low of resolution

"If that strikes you as overkill, there will be less extravagant options. The G7 series (below) offers 27- and 32-inch panels at a more conventional 2,560 x 1,440 resolution with the same 240Hz refresh rate, 1ms response time, 1000R curvature, FreeSync and G-Sync. It's not as bright with 'just' DisplayHDR 600 support, but we suspect many gamers won't mind. The range will also be ready in the second quarter."

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I'm not sure I would like a strong curve like this, but as someone who sits close to a large screen, a mild curve is actually nice.

I used to use a 4K 48" Samsung JS9000 as my desktop monitor sitting about arms length away from it. 2ft?

The mild curve it had made it very comfortable to use at that distance.

Sitting the same distance from my new 43" Asus XG438Q which is flat, is way less comfortable. Due to various optical illusions, the screen almost feels convex. I had to grab my ruler to make sure it was actually flat :p
 

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Nice. All except for it being limited to 27"-32".

EDIT: I agree with the comments about it having too much of a curve.
 
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Yeah what the fuck is that shit

Also if LG ever managed to barf out like a 40 inch version of their OLEDs I'd probably get one as a monitor.
 

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If this came out 15-20 years ago, it would surely have "Xtreme" somewhere in the branding.
 

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Id have to see the curve in person to judge whether it's too much or not. I do like the look of it though.
 

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It looks fine to me. Sure, it has its problems but for mainstream gamers, I'm sure they will like it. I'll keep waiting for an curved OLED.
 

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would love this monitor to use with x-plane 11 and FS20 but odds are this will cost more than twice as much as the system it would be used on.. rip :(
 

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That's a crazy amount of curve. I'd love to try that out. It's either going to be brilliant or a train wreck, but if it's the former that really will be awesome. That's enough curve that it would function a lot like a HMD.
 

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Looks like this Xxxtreme monitor can provide all the nausea of bad VR without the annoying face ballast.

Only time I want to use a curved monitor is in the capsule on my one-way flight into the sun.
 
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That's a crazy amount of curve. I'd love to try that out. It's either going to be brilliant or a train wreck, but if it's the former that really will be awesome. That's enough curve that it would function a lot like a HMD.

A lot of it has to do with what you are used to.

Every new monitor I have bought in the last 20 years has felt like a trainwreck until I got used to it, and then once I got used to it, I could no longer go back to what I was using before...
 
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A lot of it has to do with what you are used to.

Every new monitor I have bought in the last 20 years has felt like a trainwreck until I got used to it, and then once I got used to it, I could no longer go back to what I was using before...
I felt like my Alienware AW3418DW was a huge step up over my Samsung KS8500 in most respects. I missed the size of the latter, but I felt like I gained more by getting G-Sync and higher refresh rates than I had lost.
 

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I felt like my Alienware AW3418DW was a huge step up over my Samsung KS8500 in most respects. I missed the size of the latter, but I felt like I gained more by getting G-Sync and higher refresh rates than I had lost.
I'm a little torn with my X8438Q.

Image quality and the slight curve my old Sammy JS9000 had were better. The BGR layout makes the Asus XG438Q a little rough on fonts, and I swear to god, it sometimes looks like it is in some sort of lower Chroma subsampling mode than RGB/4:4:4, but the settings say otherwise :/

As far as the FreeSync goes, it is nice I guess. I don't have to worry about those titles that always want to drop below 60fps at 4k as much, but I haven't really run them much since picking up the screen.

As far as higher refresh rates go, I honestly don't get the hype. I don't have much that can render at 120hz at 4k, but I did do a CSGO test, and I can barely tell any difference at all between 60hz and 120hz.
 

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I'm a little torn with my X8438Q.

Image quality and the slight curve my old Sammy JS9000 had were better. The BGR layout makes the Asus XG438Q a little rough on fonts, and I swear to god, it sometimes looks like it is in some sort of lower Chroma subsampling mode than RGB/4:4:4, but the settings say otherwise :/

As far as the FreeSync goes, it is nice I guess. I don't have to worry about those titles that always want to drop below 60fps at 4k as much, but I haven't really run them much since picking up the screen.

As far as higher refresh rates go, I honestly don't get the hype. I don't have much that can render at 120hz at 4k, but I did do a CSGO test, and I can barely tell any difference at all between 60hz and 120hz.
Higher refresh rates aren't hype. I can tell immediately when I'm using a higher refresh rate display. The responsiveness is vastly improved. Even my girlfriend who knows nothing about computers noticed it right away when I let her play on my computer one time. I ended up buying her a 144Hz monitor for Christmas as a result.
 

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Higher refresh rates aren't hype. I can tell immediately when I'm using a higher refresh rate display. The responsiveness is vastly improved. Even my girlfriend who knows nothing about computers noticed it right away when I let her play on my computer one time. I ended up buying her a 144Hz monitor for Christmas as a result.
I dont think its hype either, but rather that people respond differently. An individual thing like hearing above certain kHz.
 

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Higher refresh rates aren't hype. I can tell immediately when I'm using a higher refresh rate display. The responsiveness is vastly improved. Even my girlfriend who knows nothing about computers noticed it right away when I let her play on my computer one time. I ended up buying her a 144Hz monitor for Christmas as a result.
I dont think its hype either, but rather that people respond differently. An individual thing like hearing above certain kHz.
If you can't tell the difference b/w 60 hz and 120 hz, either something is wrong w/your PC or eyes.
My money is still on placebo effect, as there are just too many parallels to the Audiophile world. but lets just agree to disagree on this one.

I don't want to derail yet another thread :p

I bet Kyle and other moderators are getting tired of cleaning up threads after they go down the rabbit hole and no longer are discussing the topic at hand.
 

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A lot of it has to do with what you are used to.

Every new monitor I have bought in the last 20 years has felt like a trainwreck until I got used to it, and then once I got used to it, I could no longer go back to what I was using before...
I think the degree of Stockholm Syndrome varies depending on the specific fault. I'm on the same screen as you right now (ASUS XG438Q). At first, I started to wonder if maybe 43" was too much. Now that I've re-positioned it on my desk, I think 43" is wonderful. On the other hand, I don't think I can get used to the ghosting. The ghosting on this screen is so bad that I've started to notice how wonderful my old 60hz Apple screens are. They may be only 60hz, but they're a true 60.00hz where as the "120hz" XG438Q is actually only 24hz.

I felt like my Alienware AW3418DW was a huge step up over my Samsung KS8500 in most respects.
The AW3418DW is getting pretty close to my perfect screen (disclaimer: current screens suck so much that my "perfect" screen is actually just my hopeful achievable compromise). My primary complaints were the lack of pixels, it has some opportunity for improved sharpness, and that Windows just generally isn't built to be compatible with the ultrawide format. It's killer for games, but the interfaces of all of my non-game apps just aren't built for that aspect ratio.

If you can't tell the difference b/w 60 hz and 120 hz, either something is wrong w/your PC or eyes.
Honestly, I didn't really know the difference until I started looking for it. That tiny bit of jitter and stuttering when scrolling at 60hz was just written off as being some unimportant hardware quirk. Now that I've had screens above 60hz, the difference is immediately noticeable even doing pretty standard things like scrolling on websites.
 

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I think the degree of Stockholm Syndrome varies depending on the specific fault. I'm on the same screen as you right now (ASUS XG438Q). At first, I started to wonder if maybe 43" was too much. Now that I've re-positioned it on my desk, I think 43" is wonderful. On the other hand, I don't think I can get used to the ghosting. The ghosting on this screen is so bad that I've started to notice how wonderful my old 60hz Apple screens are. They may be only 60hz, but they're a true 60.00hz where as the "120hz" XG438Q is actually only 24hz.
Maybe I'm just not as sensitive to it as you are, or maybe I have tuned my settings better, but I've only been bothered by it occasionally here or there. Most of the time I neither notice it nor think of it at all.


The AW3418DW is getting pretty close to my perfect screen (disclaimer: current screens suck so much that my "perfect" screen is actually just my hopeful achievable compromise). My primary complaints were the lack of pixels, it has some opportunity for improved sharpness, and that Windows just generally isn't built to be compatible with the ultrawide format. It's killer for games, but the interfaces of all of my non-game apps just aren't built for that aspect ratio.
I don't know anything about this screen, but I do second your thoughts when it comes to ultrawide. It's just not very good for productivity. Snap a window to the side and it winds up being an awkward size. Nothing ever feels like it fits right. This may be just another one of those things that you get used to, and I have not spent enough time with ultrawides, but the time I did spend just frustrated the hell out of me.
 

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It definitely looks cool... don't really think it'd be very usable with that much curve though.
 

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There is a 48 in their new lineup
Coming from a 48", that is just SLIGHTLY too large for standard desktop use.

If they could get a 4k model down to 43, and got it to work with VRR on Nvidia I'd be in.

Probably going to have to wait for next gen HDMI for that though, as they are unlikely to bless it with a display port...
 

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Holy crap that is a lot of curve. To make that seem sense you'd have to sit real close to the monitor, but then you may run issues with the resolution that seems rather low for a display this big.
 

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Holy crap that is a lot of curve. To make that seem sense you'd have to sit real close to the monitor, but then you may run issues with the resolution that seems rather low for a display this big.
it's 2x27" 1440p displays without the center bezels wrapped around you so it's at it's proper native resolution. the CHG90 i didn't like though.. that's just 2 27" 1080p displays and text was hard as heck to read.
 

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Coming from a 48", that is just SLIGHTLY too large for standard desktop use.

If they could get a 4k model down to 43, and got it to work with VRR on Nvidia I'd be in.

Probably going to have to wait for next gen HDMI for that though, as they are unlikely to bless it with a display port...
Yeah, 48 is still too big.

I've read there are manufacturing reasons for why it doesn't come smaller and just straight up shrinking it is a non trivial issue.

Still, so close to potential greatness
 

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How does this handle things if you want to run at 16:9 will it give you 2 flanking monitors or will it just waste the space with black bars? Or can you configure virtual monitors with gpu drivers?
 

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This is the kind of thing I want bendy screens for. So you could adjust the curve of the monitor/tv or have no curve at all but the ability would be nice.
 

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How does this handle things if you want to run at 16:9 will it give you 2 flanking monitors or will it just waste the space with black bars? Or can you configure virtual monitors with gpu drivers?
most have software support to convert the panel into two separate display sections, some can even do 3 separate display sections.

otherwise with video's yes you'll get the black bars on the sides
 
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If you can't tell the difference b/w 60 hz and 120 hz, either something is wrong w/your PC or eyes.
Umm... other way around. People who perceive an issue are updating what they see fast enough for temporal aliasing issues to happen in the on/off cycle. If you're clocked slower in your eye's/brain it's less of an issue.
 

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Ultimately depends of the generated image for the game adapts to the curve. If it doesn't it'll be distorted. I'd rather have the view from my eye rendered accurately than immersion in a distorted image.
 

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the curve seems extreme, but i have 2 24" side by side, and both are angled in a little. looking at it from the top, this would come close. yes, probably need to see this in person.
 

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For that crazy curve, there is a sweet spot where your eyes are equidistant to all parts of the screen. Who knows, might be amazing. You'd want to try it first for sure tho, and for 32" it does seem like the curve is overdone, you would have to be sitting close to it.
 
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