Samsung MV-3V4G3D/US

Discussion in 'Memory' started by xsmokex, Mar 23, 2012.

  1. extide

    extide 2[H]4U

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    I have 3x2GB of these running at 1600 cas 8-8-8-22 @ 1.5v they are pretty dang sweet. I can't wait to buy more lol.
     
  2. larrymoencurly

    larrymoencurly [H]ard|Gawd

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    Ordinary silicone rubber sealant. I've found that it conducts heat better than thermal tape and sticks better, too, yet you can remove it easily by slicing through with a razor.

    But unless you're overclocking the RAM, why bother with heat spreaders on it?
     
  3. Dephcon

    Dephcon [H]ard|Gawd

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    This is [H]ardForum :D
     
  4. tyreman

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    Runs good here
    1866 @9-9-9-24 1t 1.35v:D
    With no specific ram fan or spreaders on them
     
  5. Reefa_Madness

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    That's the first time I've ever seen that suggested. Interesting. Where did you come up with this idea? Seen it done elsewhere, or your own creation? Your heat transfer assertion...opinion or documented.

    I'm asking because it would indeed be an easy, affordable and available option if the heat transfer properties are validated.
     
  6. MissJ84

    MissJ84 2[H]4U

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    Ordered a set of these from B&H on Monday, hoping the do well on my soon to be here Z77E-ITX. Are there any specific ram chips to be looking for? I remember people comparing numbers on them over at OCN.
     
  7. larrymoencurly

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    3M made or used to make silicone rubber sealant for solar hot water panels, to go between the copper pipes and the channels they snapped into. I saw this in the paperwork for the panels we had at our old house. The panels were designed by AZ State and were widely sold as kits in the 1980s. Apparently the 3M silicone sealant was nothing special thermally but was made to not out-gas much because that would fog up the glazing of he solar panels.

    Silicone rubber sheeting is used for electrically insulating heatsinks from transistors and high-power chips, and according to W. Marshall Leach of Leach audio amplfier fame, it works better without thermal paste than mica or Kapton insulators with thermal paste do. I don't know if he said anything about aluminum oxide insulators. I've seen silicone rubber insulators used in Fortron-Source and other brand PSUs, but sometimes with thermal paste applied. Some books about power supply design mention silicone rubber's thermal conduction.

    I measured a 3 Celcius temperature difference between the package of an old Intel 740i video chip and its taped-on heatsink. After the heatsink fell off, I removed the tape and replaced it with silicone rubber sealant, and the temperature difference reduced to about 1C. I suspect most of that was because the silicone rubber layer was thinner than the thermal tape, and thinness probably matters more than any other factor. I've seen silicone rubber glue used only in a couple of commerical products, both small cards that were probably from security or fire alarm controllers. .
     
  8. Reefa_Madness

    Reefa_Madness Gawd

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    Thank you very much for that information. Might just find myself giving this a try in the near future...specifically for some sinks that I need to attach.
     
  9. cmay119

    cmay119 Limp Gawd

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    Just bought a set of these today from Micro Center to play around with. Haven't installed them yet, but should have a pretty decent opinion of them by the end of the weekend. They're pretty attractive for a no-frills budget set. So I won't have any qualms about their aesthetics when installed. :)
     
  10. Dephcon

    Dephcon [H]ard|Gawd

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    what's better, 2000mhz with stock timings or 1866 with tighter timings?
     
  11. cmay119

    cmay119 Limp Gawd

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    Depends how much tighter the timings are. If you're doing 10-10-10-24 @ 1866 vs 11-11-11-28 @ 2000, I'm confident you'll get a more bandwidth from 2000. Are you having trouble getting them stable @ 2133, with stock timings?
     
  12. Dephcon

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    Yeah, prime keeps failing over 2000 and I cant even boot at 2133 with all 4 DIMMs installed. I can boot with 2 DIMMs at 2200, but its not stable.

    I might have to put my CPU down to stock speed and try again.
     
  13. cmay119

    cmay119 Limp Gawd

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    How much voltage are you feeding them? If you're at 1.5v you might want to bump to 1.55 or 1.6 to see if that gets you over the hump. However, you might want some active cooling on that sticks at 1.6 or greater.

    Read through the thread @ XS if you haven't yet: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums...R3-capable-of-2400MHz.-Perfect-for-SFF-builds.

    They've been doing quite a bit of testing on these and should be able to help you reach that 2133 goal. I've been able to boot and play with 2133 with the two sticks I have, but I don't think they were 100% stable. They passed 32M of HyperPi and ran them for about in hour in Prime, but the system had random quirks that started when I set that speed. So I dropped them back down to 1866 8-9-9-28 @ 1.5v. I haven't played with voltage higher than 1.5v @ 2133 to see if that stabilizes the sticks, but I probably will in the coming days. :)
     
  14. bitgod

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    Holy balls, this ram is nice. And friggen tiny! I had to triple-check that I hadn't picked up some sodimms. I'm glad my local Fry's was carrying it. I miss the bling of shiny heat spreaders, cuz I'm shallow like that, but these give you so much room (physically and electronically) to play with. Biggest downside is the packaging, I hate packaging that you basically have to destroy to get at the items. Makes it hard to return if needed. Luckily, it doesn't look like I need to.
     
  15. ImJacksAmygdala

    ImJacksAmygdala n00b

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    Well I'm a proud owner of 16GB of this stuff after getting it on Neweggs 15% off desktop ram promo going on today. I plan on using it in a Asus Maximus Formula V board when I can finally buy one. I don't have a clue how to overclock these but I'm fairly tech savy and the whole goal of this project was to finally be [H]ard. Thanks for the OC link earlier in this thread. I'll post back here once I finish my build and I'll let you all know how it went. I bought individual 4GB sticks because the matched pairs were OOS. Do you think I will run into any problems because they aren't matched?
     
  16. Orion Silverhelm

    Orion Silverhelm n00b

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    anyone have any success running 32gb of this on an 8 dimm mb?
     
  17. sweeper240

    sweeper240 Limp Gawd

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    I'm getting these for the following build

    CPU Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5 GHz - BX80637I73770K
    MoBo ASUS Maximus V EXTREME LGA 1155 Intel Z77
    CPU Cooler Corsair H100
    PSU KINGWIN Lazer Platinum Series LZP-550 550W ATX 12V 80 PLUS PLATINUM PSU
    GPU ASUS GTX680 DirectCU II TOP - GTX680-DC2T-2GD5
    RAM SAMSUNG 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600 - MV-3V4G3D/US 30nm
    SSD SAMSUNG 830 2.5" 512GB SATA III MLC Desktop Upgrade Kit MZ-7PC512D/AM
    HDD 1tb HDD
    Case Corsair Special Edition White Graphite Series 600T ATX Mid

    Thermal Paste Prolimatech PK-1 Nano Aluminum Thermal Compound - 5 Gram
    Fan Filters DEMCiflex Corsair 600T Magnetic Dust / Fan Filter Set - 4 Piece
    Fans BitFenix Spectre Pro 200mm Fan - All White (BFF-LPRO-20025WW-RP)
    Fans BitFenix Spectre LED 200mm Fan - Red (BFF-BLF-20020R-RP)
     
  18. BioVader

    BioVader Limp Gawd

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    Does anyone have any input how the memory modules work with a Asrock z77 extreme 4?
     
  19. Ali Man

    Ali Man [H]ard|Gawd

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    Everything's looking good man!

    Can you explain your question a bit better?
     
  20. BioVader

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    Just want to make sure that the Samsung ram is compatible with the Asrock z77 extreme 4. It's not listed on there compatibility sheet but doesn't mean it will not work. I just want to confirm that there will be no issues specially when it comes to overclocking.
     
  21. Ali Man

    Ali Man [H]ard|Gawd

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    It should work fine with the Extreme4. It had problems with Gigabyte's Z77 motherboard but even that was fixed with a bios update (the last I checked).
     
  22. cbutters

    cbutters Gawd

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    ordered some of this ram... noticed that on the package it says 1600Mbps.... Isn't this an obvious mislabeling? shouldnt it say 1600Mhz? the bandwidth of the memory should be much higher than 1600Mbps at these speeds..... in fact 1600Mhz memory should have 12,800 MB/s and that translates into 102,400 Mbps....

    seriously did someone get this wrong at samsung? I've just read through 3 different online reviews of this memory and nobody is mentioning this obvious error... I feel like im taking crazy pills here.

    Maybe this is why these are being sold so cheaply... to get the bad packaging out of there... or am I missing something?
     
  23. unholythree

    unholythree Limp Gawd

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    This ram has my interest piqued not only for its potential for overclock but the price: $16 a dimm is pretty sweet.

    So AMD experts out there, If my motherboard advertises as overclocking to 2000 MHz would my 1090t benefit from pushing this RAM that high or would I be better keeping it low and trying to tighten the timings? Currently I'm running Corsair XMS 1600 @ stock.

    Also should I keep it at 8 GB or max it to 16?
     
  24. d6bmg

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    That is an awesome kit. Already ordered 2 of them, let see where it goes in terms of performance.
     
  25. SonDa5

    SonDa5 [H]ardness Supreme

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    I had problems over clocking these till MSI recently updated Mpower Z77 BIOS to support them.

    Picked up another set of Sammy LP cheapies and with the BIOS update to 17.5 on my Mpower Z77 MB they are working out well for over clocking. Also they are unstable if voltage over 1.55v on DRAM. I have my DRAM voltage at 1.42v and I have them at 2133mhz CL 9-10-10-27. That is with my 3770k over clocked to 5GHZ HT enabled. I have never been able to do this with these sticks so I think MSI finally tweaked the BIOS right. :) Going to keep on pushing them to see how fast I can get them to go. I think they don't like the high voltage because they heat up. I am testing them with Intel Burn Test.

    The ICs on this kit a HYKO.



    http://valid.canardpc.com/2604882
     
  26. Josephson_Junction

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    I'm in love with this RAM. I'm not doing any extensive overclocking with it, but I've had it in my DQ77MK mobo for the past several weeks running at 1600 (1.5v, CAS 9) without a single problem. Completely solid.

    Price, low-profile, apparently overclocks like a champion... this is just too good.

    Edit: I am definitely making use of this memory in the fleet of business PCs I'll have to build next year.
     
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  27. MontyAC

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    I'm running 4x4 sticks in my z68 board at 1.35 volts with no problems. Win 8 WEI rates the memory at 8.2.
     
  28. oshia86

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    How many of you guys using 4 stick of the 4GB stuff overclock your cpu as well?

    I was considering a bump to 16gb for the system in my sig, and I'm just not sure that the 4 sticks would be stable. It's pretty common for problems to arise when filling all four banks, correct?

    These are the kits I was debating between.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231606

    or

    2x - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147096

    On one hand I get the benefit of overclocking, which will most likely result in nil real world results, with low voltage and a low profile (nice for my cpu cooler), but then I may run into a problem with the 4 banks filled. On the other I have two sticks and room to grow but, knowing GSkill, no ability to overclock.

    /endpostwhereihavealreadymadeupmymindandforsomereasonimlookingforapprovaleitherway
     
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  29. oshia86

    oshia86 Gawd

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    Went with two 8gb sticks of GSkill 1866. Works for me.
     
  30. Cod

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    Will the MV-3V4G3D/US sticks work with an Asus P8Z77-M Pro? I ask because the memory is not listed in the qualified vendors list for the specific motherboard.
     
  31. SonDa5

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    I don't see why not. I've seen these sticks better on Asus than other MB makers.

    I have MSI Z77 Mpower and am just learning how to over clock these sticks.

    With 1.5v and only adjusting the first 5 timings I am able to get a stable 1T 9-10-10-24 with a 2x4GB kit that uses HYKO ICs.

    This ram works great. For $34 you can't go wrong. My ram is faster than this Dominator kit that cost $130. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233285



    Work great with my delidded 3770k at 5GHZ.

    http://valid.canardpc.com/2609406

    Batch 12/29

    [​IMG]
     
  32. SonDa5

    SonDa5 [H]ardness Supreme

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    Best I can do with my new Hyko Samsung 2x4GB kit from 12/29 batch is 2246MHZ with 1.55v.

    I set my memory speed to 2200mhz with 9-10-10-24 1T with an increase my BCLk a little to get there. This is with my 3770k at 5GHZ@1.45v Vcore.


    SuperPi 32m is 6:40 with these settings which matches my best time I had with my Gskill CL9 2400mhz kit that I had over clocked to 2666mhz CL 10-12-12-31 1T at 1.7v ddr voltage. The CL9 Gskill kit sells for almost about $95 at Newegg right now and I got eh Sammy kit for $34.99 from Newegg. :)

    http://valid.canardpc.com/2618023

    I think this kit will go alot faster but my MSI Z77 Mpower BIOS is limiting it in speed settings. :(

    Best kit of ram for the money.

    This ram helps get my 3dMark11 physics score over 13,000. http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/5249080
     
  33. Cod

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    Is there a guide somewhere showing how to overclock these sticks? I just got a pair and have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to OCing RAM. Right now I have them running at the Asus optimized default, which is probably crappy.
     
  34. Shadohh

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    ladcrooks n00b

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    I ordered 16GB early morning from oc.uk on the 7/2/13, price £71 including postage Ha! 2 hours later they changed the price to £102. What a deal for me, so happy!

    Running on a GIGABYTE EX58-UDR3 - i7920

    AIDA64 Extreme Edition :

    MEMORY READ
    CPU CPU Clock Motherboard Chipset Memory CL-RCD-RP-RAS Read Speed
    Core i7-920 3366 MHz Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD3R v1.0 X58 Triple DDR3-1600 7-7-7-19 CR1 16880 MB/s
    Core i7-2600 3400 MHz Asus P8P67 P67 Dual DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 CR1 16252 MB/s
    Core i7-990X Extreme 3466 MHz Intel DX58SO2 X58 Triple DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 CR1 14174 MB/s
    Core i7-965 Extreme 3200 MHz Asus P6T Deluxe X58 Triple DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 CR1 13899 MB/s

    MEMORY WRITE
    CPU CPU Clock Motherboard Chipset Memory CL-RCD-RP-RAS Write Speed
    Core i7-2600 3400 MHz Asus P8P67 P67 Dual DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 CR1 18438 MB/s
    Core i7-920 3366 MHz Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD3R v1.0 X58 Triple DDR3-1600 7-7-7-19 CR1 13942 MB/s
    Core i7-990X Extreme 3466 MHz Intel DX58SO2 X58 Triple DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 CR1 12544 MB/s
    Core i7-965 Extreme 3200 MHz Asus P6T Deluxe X58 Triple DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 CR1 12064 MB/s

    MEMORY COPY
    CPU CPU Clock Motherboard Chipset Memory CL-RCD-RP-RAS Copy Speed
    Core i7-920 3366 MHz Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD3R v1.0 X58 Triple DDR3-1600 7-7-7-19 CR1 20090 MB/s
    Core i7-2600 3400 MHz Asus P8P67 P67 Dual DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 CR1 16382 MB/s
    FX-6100 3300 MHz Asus Sabertooth 990FX AMD990FX Dual DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 CR1 15064 MB/s
    Core i7-965 Extreme 3200 MHz Asus P6T Deluxe X58 Triple DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 CR1 14937 MB/s

    MEMORY LATENCY
    CPU CPU Clock Motherboard Chipset Memory CL-RCD-RP-RAS Latency
    Core i7-920 3366 MHz Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD3R v1.0 X58 Triple DDR3-1600 7-7-7-19 CR1 46.7 ns
    Athlon64 X2 Black 6400+ 3200 MHz MSI K9N SLI Platinum nForce570SLI Dual DDR2-800 4-4-4-11 CR1 47.5 ns
    Core i7-2600 3400 MHz Asus P8P67 P67 Dual DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 CR1 53.8 ns
    FX-6100 3300 MHz Asus Sabertooth 990FX AMD990FX Dual DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 CR1 54.1 ns
    Sempron 140 2700 MHz Asus Sabertooth 990FX AMD990FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 CR1 54.5 ns


    I am impressed. Great memory Only using 3 of them, but will update my computer if haswell is any good.

    tried 1600 @ 7-7-7-19 CR1 ( Mucked up here, ha! The timings were ok when voltage was set on auto which = 1.6xx ) - Is that too high for these sticks?

    I think i need to slacken the timing a bit and bring voltage down,. Never played in this area before, oh here goes.

    Now have ram running at 7-8-8-24 1t @ 4vt. No crashes and pleased with the ram.

    Oh yeah! The ram price has gone back down again
     
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  36. wyogamer

    wyogamer n00b

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    Hey how you all doing? I'm new to the forum. I was wondering if any of you knew was this ram in not available at most retailers anymore? Most sites say it is discontinued.
     
  37. d6bmg

    d6bmg Limp Gawd

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    Don't look at online stores. Physically go to stores like microcenter, you may get one.
     
  38. Cod

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    Yup, brick-and-mortar is the way to go for these sticks. I just recently picked up a new pair from Walmart.