Samsung Kills Production of Famed B-die DDR4 Memory in Favor or Higher Densities

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  1. sknight

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    As the world becomes more and more centered on data, as well as its processing and storage, increased memory density across products is becoming more of a necessity. It seems that out of this necessity and a need to streamline its memory production towards favoring denser outputs, Samsung is killing of the famous B-die chips, which were - and still are - part of a love affair with any enthusiast's Ryzen desktop.

    Memory compatibility issues with the first gen Ryzen took a while to dissipate, and didn't vanish entirely; however, overclockers quickly found that the most stable and overclockable memory ICs all were of the Samsung B-die type. Now, the company has updated its product catalogue to reflect EOL (End of Life) status for B-dies, replacing it with denser M-Die and A-Die products. M-dies were supposed to bring 32 GB densities to a single rank of memory - and have apparently been siphoned off to server applications and left out in the cold for consumer purchase), while the new A dies increase memory density per IC, meaning less of these are necessary to achieve the same final memory footprint. Whether or not these will feature the same Ryzen compatibility and overclockability as their B-die predecessors is unknown at this point, but it would make a lot of enthusiasts slightly unhappy - and increase the value of B-die offerings in any sort of discerning second-hand market - if they did not.
     
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    I personally found this interesting as I love me some B-die. They marry up so darned well with Ryzen. Here's hoping their next ones are even better.
     
  3. Armenius

    Armenius I Drive Myself to the [H]ospital

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    Glad I pulled the trigger on my upgrade when I did, then. I'm sure the prices on these are going to skyrocket with this news.
     
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    People have love affairs with their Ryzen desktops? Lawl! XD
     
  5. kirbyrj

    kirbyrj [H]ard as it Gets

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    I haven't run B-die memory in a Ryzen system in a year. There's no need for it. Plain old M-die Hynix works just as well in most cases and is 60% of the price.
     
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    This. Someone here got even tighter sub-timings on it than what b-die manages. Still trying to dig that thread up.
    B-die is old nostalgia news now, thats why they pulled it.
     
  7. sknight

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    I'd love to see that N4CR. Please do share if/when you find it!
     
  8. kirbyrj

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    N4CR 2[H]4U

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    See kirbyrj post above - thank you buddy!!
     
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    kirbyrj [H]ard as it Gets

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    I was looking at upgrading my 2x8GB into 2x16GB...might be something worth looking into ;).
     
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    I'm also looking at minimum 32gb for Zen 2.. Same boat. Might be cheaper now than after launch.. Not first time that's happened either.
     
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