Samsung 34" QD-OLED

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I expect these 34" panels are not going to be produced on their own and are likely a cost-recovery product. The yield on the substrates is 1/3 so they are probably going to be making these 34" panels from 55" and 65" panels that have defects.

Hopefully that means prices aren't insane, but it also likely means supply is going to be spotty we won't see these hit the market for a number of months after the OLED-QD TVs.
 

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Meh gonna depend heavily on pricing for these Samsungs, especially with LG coming out with a 42" C2 for 2022 that might possibly get discounted to under $1000 towards the end of the year seeing as you can now find the 48" C1 for $1100.
 

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Meh gonna depend heavily on pricing for these Samsungs, especially with LG coming out with a 42" C2 for 2022 that might possibly get discounted to under $1000 towards the end of the year seeing as you can now find the 48" C1 for $1100.
I have my eyes on both the 42 inch and 34 inch. I wonder if LG will equip the C series with heatsinks... now that would be one hell of a way to introduce the 42 inch OLED!
 

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Also, are these QD-OLED monitors 4k in resolution? Just wondering because 34" is a size typically associated with ultrawide 3440x1440p displays.
 

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Also, are these QD-OLED monitors 4k in resolution? Just wondering because 34" is a size typically associated with ultrawide 3440x1440p displays.

It is the same question that I have. I was looking for a larger than 32" monitor, but all you get is ultrawide, which is basically 1440p with extra width. I needed a proper 4k 16:9 variant that is larger than 32", however. Didn't exist.
 

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It is the same question that I have. I was looking for a larger than 32" monitor, but all you get is ultrawide, which is basically 1440p with extra width. I needed a proper 4k 16:9 variant that is larger than 32", however. Didn't exist.
5120x2160@120/144hz would be lovely and still fit comfortably in HDMI 2.1 bandwidth.
 

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I'm curious how these will stack up to LG's CX / C1 or upcoming C2 in terms of quality and features as well as size. Samsung's OLED variant vs LG's? So far I've really enjoyed a CX 48 I picked up refurb last summer and am currently using it as a monitor. However, I'm keeping my eyes open - I'm thinking of either getting another 48 or 55" LG (or comparable) to be the badly needed replacement for an old 32" TV that is long beyond its prime, or if I get a new LG C2 42" (or Samsung, or some sort of 30-48" OLED monitor) I'll use that for my PC and move the CX 48 to being a TV etc.
 

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Also, are these QD-OLED monitors 4k in resolution? Just wondering because 34" is a size typically associated with ultrawide 3440x1440p displays.
If they are planning to cut these from defective 55" or 65" QD-OLED panels they will be 1440p. They'd need a standalone panel to make it 4K and I have a very hard time seeing Samsung investing into that for a first-gen product.
 

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I'm curious how these will stack up to LG's CX / C1 or upcoming C2 in terms of quality and features as well as size. Samsung's OLED variant vs LG's? So far I've really enjoyed a CX 48 I picked up refurb last summer and am currently using it as a monitor. However, I'm keeping my eyes open - I'm thinking of either getting another 48 or 55" LG (or comparable) to be the badly needed replacement for an old 32" TV that is long beyond its prime, or if I get a new LG C2 42" (or Samsung, or some sort of 30-48" OLED monitor) I'll use that for my PC and move the CX 48 to being a TV etc.

Samsung is quoting 120% DCI-P3, which utterly destroys LG's OLED's which are only like in the 80's. That is one thing I didn't like about my LG OLED's, the colors were noticeably lacking.
 

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Will they ever make an 8K OLED monitor for desktop use? I miss my Dell UP3218K (8K IPS panel). 8K monitors seem to have vanished after that one from Dell in early 2017. Sigh...
 

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Will they ever make an 8K OLED monitor for desktop use? I miss my Dell UP3218K (8K IPS panel). 8K monitors seem to have vanished after that one from Dell in early 2017. Sigh...

The LG Z models are 8k. There's an 88" model, but if that's too big they have a 77".
 

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If they are planning to cut these from defective 55" or 65" QD-OLED panels they will be 1440p. They'd need a standalone panel to make it 4K and I have a very hard time seeing Samsung investing into that for a first-gen product.
If they are 1440p 34" for crazy money I'm not sure who will buy them. The 42" C2 will be 999$ at launch (that's the rumor).
 
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I mentioned this in another thread, but I think these 34" ultrawide panels will be 2560x1080 if they are cut from 55" 4k panels. I'm guessing that based on this comparison image between a 34" ultrawide and a 55" 16:9 display:

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If the 55" green panel has a total resolution of 3840x2160, how can they possibly cut a 34" ultrawide panel with 3440x1440 resolution out of that? Seems like the max resolution the purple panel can be is 2560x1080. Is that how it works or am I missing something?
 

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Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I mentioned this in another thread, but I think these 34" ultrawide panels will be 2560x1080 if they are cut from 55" 4k panels. I'm guessing that based on this comparison image between a 34" ultrawide and a 55" 16:9 display:

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If the 55" green panel has a total resolution of 3840x2160, how can they possibly cut a 34" ultrawide panel with 3440x1440 resolution out of that? Seems like the max resolution the purple panel can be is 2560x1080. Is that how it works or am I missing something?
That's not necessarily how it works. If they use a similar process as LG they make these in large sheets. So let's say they make I don't know, two 55" panels from a single sheet. Then you might have some leftover in the sheet which is not enough to fit another 55" screen but could fit maybe two 34" screens. They can then use that area to make 3440x1440 screens. Correct me if I am misunderstanding how these are made.

Personally I still hope that these would be 4K 16:9 34" screens or 5120x2160 ultrawides. I am dead tired of seeing these damn 1440p screens everywhere.
 

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That's not necessarily how it works. If they use a similar process as LG they make these in large sheets. So let's say they make I don't know, two 55" panels from a single sheet. Then you might have some leftover in the sheet which is not enough to fit another 55" screen but could fit maybe two 34" screens. They can then use that area to make 3440x1440 screens. Correct me if I am misunderstanding how these are made.

Personally I still hope that these would be 4K 16:9 34" screens or 5120x2160 ultrawides. I am dead tired of seeing these damn 1440p screens everywhere.

Yeah I think the only way they can really compete with LG on an OLED monitor is to make it at least 4k since they probably plan to price this thing to the moon.
 

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That's not necessarily how it works. If they use a similar process as LG they make these in large sheets. So let's say they make I don't know, two 55" panels from a single sheet. Then you might have some leftover in the sheet which is not enough to fit another 55" screen but could fit maybe two 34" screens. They can then use that area to make 3440x1440 screens. Correct me if I am misunderstanding how these are made.

Personally I still hope that these would be 4K 16:9 34" screens or 5120x2160 ultrawides. I am dead tired of seeing these damn 1440p screens everywhere.
I'm the opposite, if the display is 4k then you'll have to lower render resolution anyway to maintain 120+ fps at all times. Not all games have adjustable render resolution.
 

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I'm the opposite, if the display is 4k then you'll have to lower render resolution anyway to maintain 120+ fps at all times. Not all games have adjustable render resolution.
Or you can just drop detail settings or use DLSS if supported. I don’t bother chasing 120+ fps at all times but I don’t play multiplayer shooters either.
 

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Nvidia supports FSR-like upscaling at the driver level without direct game support now for non DLSS games.
 

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That's not necessarily how it works. If they use a similar process as LG they make these in large sheets. So let's say they make I don't know, two 55" panels from a single sheet. Then you might have some leftover in the sheet which is not enough to fit another 55" screen but could fit maybe two 34" screens. They can then use that area to make 3440x1440 screens. Correct me if I am misunderstanding how these are made.

Personally I still hope that these would be 4K 16:9 34" screens or 5120x2160 ultrawides. I am dead tired of seeing these damn 1440p screens everywhere.
The 2022 Samsung QD-OLED TVs will come in 4K resolution only,
https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/news/44f86bd
 

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Or you can just drop detail settings or use DLSS if supported. I don’t bother chasing 120+ fps at all times but I don’t play multiplayer shooters either.
Even if you do play multiplayer shooters you don't need 120+ fps unless you're playing competitively. Public servers aren't exactly filled with elite players with top of the line hardware.
 

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Even if you do play multiplayer shooters you don't need 120+ fps unless you're playing competitively. Public servers aren't exactly filled with elite players with top of the line hardware.
Um, hard disagree on this one. If you're not sweating why play at all?
 

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Also, are these QD-OLED monitors 4k in resolution? Just wondering because 34" is a size typically associated with ultrawide 3440x1440p displays.
That’s exactly what I want. it will give more longevity to gpus. Even my 3090 Kingpin will struggle in the near future at 4K and ultra quality.
 

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Mass production begins.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/techland/mass-production-begins-samsung’s-qd-oled-panels-197817

"Samsung Display last week hosted a ceremony to “celebrate mass-production of Quantum Dot (QD) display OLED panels,” according to the English-language publication The Dong-A Ilbo. Production is happening at the Q1 Line at Asan Campus in South Chungcheong Province. It started about two years after Samsung announced the investment of 13.1 trillion won (about $11 billion) in the new technology.

The first QD-OLED TVs will reportedly arrive in 65-, 55- and 34-inch sizes."
 

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Have they even showed them in person to anyone yet?

Last I heard was from several years back where they showed them behind closed doors to a very limited audience because they sucked. Super dim compared to what LG had at the time.

Don't they normally show working prototypes to the public at events like CES (often years) before they start mass producing them?


QD-OLED seems super sketchy to me. If it was good they should be showing it off to people getting them hyped and getting potential customers to hold off on buying an LG OLED and instead wait to buy their own.
 

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QD-OLED seems super sketchy to me. If it was good they should be showing it off to people getting them hyped and getting potential customers to hold off on buying an LG OLED and instead wait to buy their own.
Seems like the performance is okay now, but they just can't manufacture these things. throw away 2 panels for every 1 you make and you can only make a million panels a year. You'd have to charge ten thousand dollars to turn a profit on a panel like that.
 

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It seems there is a 34 QD-OLED monitor
https://www.ces.tech/Innovation-Awards/Honorees/2022/Honorees/S/Samsung-Odyssey-G8QNB-34”-Gaming-Monitor-(2022).aspx

Samsung Odyssey G8QNB 34” Gaming Monitor
175Hz refresh rate
0.1ms response time
1800R curvature
UWQHD resolution
That's 3440x1440p for those that are curious. The 175hz refresh is awesome but fuck the curved display. I had a curved 32 inch samsung for a while and I hated it. Not a fan of ultrawide either.

Alienware is making one too: https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/news/b1c66f0
 
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That's 3440x1440p for those that are curious. The 175hz refresh is awesome but fuck the curved display. I had a curved 32 inch samsung for a while and I hated it. Not a fan of ultrawide either.

Alienware is making one too: https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/news/b1c66f0
Alienware's QD-OLED seems to be offering 3 years warranty against burn-in.
https://www.cnet.com/tech/gaming/with-qd-oled-gaming-monitor-alienware-claims-first-at-ces-2022/

It will also have DisplayHDR 400. It's either 1st gen QD-OLED is dim as hell or they purposedly kept it low to reduce burn-in.
 
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Now I'm starting to think: "Hmm, should I buy one of these and stick it under my LG CX 48..." I've been wanting a second monitor so I have to use virtual desktops a bit less and this might be just the ticket.
 
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