Samsung 2493HM vs. BenQ G2400W

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BenQ G2400W vs. Samsung SM2493HM

I don't normally review products, but I thought I'd take this chance to examine both these monitors against each other, as they are similar in price, panel type, and connections.

Many are looking for decent gaming 24" monitors, and these two fit the bill nicely, with one DVI, one HDMI, and one VGA connector. This connector configuration is your best bet to use these monitors as both a solid PC gaming and console display for Xbox 360 or Playstation 3. Because of their 24" size, they are pretty good monitors to play consoles on, maybe even with a friend. Even though they are TN based panels, their horizontal viewing angles are more than enough to have two people viewing them side by side.

I'm going to categorize this review with both objective and subjective areas so that I can answer the most common questions up front. I will try and provide as accurate photos of what I've seen out of both.

Panel Quality:

- Good for TN panels, with good horizontal viewing angles, and marginal vertical viewing angles. The vertical viewing angles are good from above, not so good from below. Neither has any dead pixels and the panels have uniform color.

- Backlight Bleed: Both are good with the BenQ having the edge. The Samsung has a bit at the bottom, but nothing huge. Edge to the BenQ just barely, as shown here (BenQ at 75 brightness, Samsung at 50)

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- Smoothness/Anti-glare/graininess: Good anti-glare on both, not too much, not too little. The BenQ has a bit less for a smoother panel, but the Samsung has a bit better glare resistance.

- Colors: BenQ has slightly better color accuracy, as calibration seems to change the color less than the Samsung. The 2493HM has an extended color gamut of 82% vs. 72% for the BenQ which manifests in slightly stronger reds, but a brown shift to dark grays. Samsung has slightly more vibrant colors, but BenQ wins on accuracy out of the box. Both have standard color controls for R,G,B.

- Brightness: The Samsung is a brighter panel. At 50 brightness, it's the same as the BenQ at 75. Full brightness on the BenQ is bright, but useable. With Samsung 100% brightness is too bright. Both can go down quite low, so it's easy to find good brightness levels.

- Text: Both are awesome. The text is sharper by far than MVA monitors, and nearly the same as S-IPS. Very NICE. Both have sharpness adjustments in the OSD to help find a suitable text sharpness, and neither has a lot of "edge" enhancement with the sharpness cranked up to make things look like they have "inverse" outlines. The BenQ has 5 levels of sharpness, and the Samsung has 10.

- Temporal dithering: It's really hard to see dithering on either one of these displays. I had to remove my glasses and sit about four inches from the Samsung to see any "pixel squirm", or temporal dithering. There was even less on the BenQ. Edge to the BenQ here.

- Banding: There is no banding whatsoever that I could see on the Samsung, not even a hint. The BenQ displayed a very slight banding effect on www.lagom.nl's gradient banding test, but it was also hard to see unless you are searching for it. Neither exhibited much change in this characteristic with different contrast or brightness. Edge to the Samsung.

- Viewing angles: Both panels have good horizontal viewing angles, but the BenQ has slightly better vertical viewing angles. The color shift tends to happen at slightly more extreme angles, but even then, it's really about a 5% difference with a slight edge from above to the BenQ. Both are horrible from below, but the Samsung tends to drop off a bit quicker and invert, and the BenQ just darkens.

Summary:
Either way, you are getting a good TN panel here. Viewing angles at this size are always a concern, but I find if I have my eye level near the top of the screen, or slightly tilt the screen forward, color shift is minimized and the image is fairly uniform. If it's a big concern, I'd suggest looking at a newer 22" panel with slightly less vertical height.

I used the BenQ in standard or sRGB mode, and did not adjust the color levels at all, and the Samsung without any Magiccolor, Magicbright, etc... Both are capable of very strong colors if you want them to be with the various modes, so you can have some accuracy, or colors that pop for gaming. I would say the Samsung has a slightly more vibrant panel at the cost of accuracy, whereas the BenQ might like a bump in color from the video card to get colors that pop a bit more.

Quick comparison: The BenQ is better in terms of accuracy, viewing angles, BLB and temporal dithering artifacts. The Samsung 2493H is better in regards to banding, brightness level, and color saturation. Both are great for what they cost.

It's subjective, but I like the BenQ a hair better, while others may disagree. The 2493HM uses the same panel as the 245BW, so that might give some an even better idea of the panel.

PC Gaming:

Both rock. Ghosting is non-existent, and motion blur is as good as any of the 22" TN panels I've seen. Colors are pretty accurate, and are highly customizable so you can get superbright, saturated, accurate, etc...I didn't have any issues with either in regards to gaming. I use the nVidia control panel to scale up to full resolution, because it makes the most sense for those games like Crysis that you can't play at full resolution, and introduces no additional input lag. Additionally using this does not affect you when you are in desktop/2d and want the highest text quality possible.

- Input lag: With no scaling, you are looking at less than a frame of input lag here for each monitor. I switched ports on the video card in clone mode, and it made no difference. Using "inputlag.exe" I saw no variance at all with each. If they were a few milliseconds different, I couldn't tell. I challenge anyone to see input lag on these monitors. If they say they do, they are either lying or a robot. With the scaler involved the BenQ pulls away from the Samsung. 30% of the time it's a frame ahead at 1680x1050. 30% of the time it's 2 frames ahead at 1280x1024. 1 shot out of 20 the Samsung is a frame ahead. Bottom line: Use the video card to scale. It works better. Edge to the BenQ at non-native resolution, but tied in native.

- Resolution scaling: The Samsung only does two resolutions at 1:1> 1920x1200, 1600x1200. All other resolutions will be scaled no matter what you set in the video card. With the BenQ I set the video card not to scale, and the BenQ set at 1:1 does 100% 1:1 PIXEL MAPPED display on the PC. The BenQ will give you exactly what you ask for whether it's stretched to Aspect, full stretch, or 1:1. I still recommend using the video card here, but huge edge to the BenQ.

Summary: Edge to the BenQ, but both are very fast and capable PC gaming displays. As a PC only gamer, you will love both.

Console Gaming:

- PS3 or 360 over HDMI: The Samsung has two modes for 720p or 1080i/p> DUMB AND DUMBER which translates into AV mode off, and AV mode on. Samsung missed the boat here.

With AV OFF it does the following (stretches to 16:10) so the middle circle is oval

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With AV ON it keeps the aspect ratio of 16:9 by stretching to full height, but cuts off the screen at the left and right sides by 5%, so while the middle circle is round, there is "horizontal overscan" for lack of a better term.

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For consoles this is not good. 720p, 1080i/p, whatever, Samsung messes it up. Use the HDMI for a second computer not a console, unless you already bought the thing and are desperate.

The 245T and 275T handles this correctly (from what I've heard and read in the manual) so why can't the 2439HM? Add a 16:9 preset here, Samsung and you can have a winner.

This is how it should be done, and how the BenQ handles it with 1:1 or aspect:

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Notice how there are black bars top and bottom, and the circle in the middle is a circle and not a taller oval like it was with the Sammy without AV mode.

To some this may not matter, but to me it's a big deal after my debacle with various monitors and their supposed full HD capabilities, overscan, cropping, incorrect aspect handling, etc...

360 over VGA: I recommend using the resolution of 1360x768 for this function, and the screen will be 99% aspect proper. 1920x1080 does not work correctly on either monitor, where they both stretch to 16:10 and "heighten" everything. Neither monitor can do 1920x1080 over VGA properly even with a PC, so that's understandable.

OSD

To be honest, both OSDs fulfill all the chosen capabilities regarding image size, setup, languages, color, etc.... I'm not going to go into this, as it's probably covered much better by the manuals which can be downloaded.

Samsung made a huge mistake by creating touch sensitive buttons that are completely flush with the bezel. You can't get used to finding them by touch, and the writing on them is a gold/beige which is tough to make out even in normal light. Big thumbs down to Samsung here.

BenQ uses a much cheaper set up with buttons under the bezel behind plastic molded/indented writing that you can only make out with a 4 billion watt bulb or if you can read braille. But at least each button is a physically separate button that can be felt, and one can get used to where they are quite quickly.

Samsung includes a fast hotkey for "image" of 4:3 or wide, source, etc... and BenQ includes one for source, brightness/contrast, picture mode, so you don't have to painfully enter the menus to change the source connection.


This is my 1.1 draft. If someone can explain why I couldn't embed flickr images here, I'd like to know, so that I could embed them in the actual post or upload them elsewhere.

Ultimately the BenQ is staying and the Samsung is leaving. Both are still returnable, but I love the BenQ, whereas I like the Samsung.

Additionally, unless you need the extra connector, or the 4:3 option in the OSD, the Samsung 245BW is the same basic panel and electronics and stand for $40 to $100 less. You will get the same panel, just no HDMI.

If you have any questions DO NOT HESITATE to post here and ask questions or make suggestions. I'm always happy to entertain critique, advice, etc...

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Can you get pics of Xbox 360 at 1080p over HDMI on the BenQ? I'm looking at this display as my all-in-one monitor for college next year (leaving the 42" at home :( ).
 

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I unfortunately don't have an HDMI Xbox 360, because I have the launch model, but I have it confirmed that 1080p on the BenQ and HDMI works the same as it does with the PS3, meaning full resolution, no stretching, and good, solid colors.

Check this link, where he went through a bunch of monitors, and decided on the G2400W for his HDMI 360.

http://www.drainweb.com/?p=95

Regards,

10e


Can you get pics of Xbox 360 at 1080p over HDMI on the BenQ? I'm looking at this display as my all-in-one monitor for college next year (leaving the 42" at home :( ).
 

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Excellent comparison 10e. These were the two of the three monitors I was considering purchasing with a PS3. Although, I can't find much information on Acer's P243WAid, which is the 3rd one. Until I do, the Benq is what I'll be getting!
 

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Great review, how do the 24" TNs compare to a PVA/IPS panel for general day to day use and gaming?
 

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Great review, how do the 24" TNs compare to a PVA/IPS panel for general day to day use and gaming?

Monitor type preferences are VERY subjective.

For me. IPS>TN>VA
For a lot of other [H] posters. IPS>VA>TN
For the masses: Anything will do.

YMMV.

Personally I find TN easier on the eyes for whatever reason. I spend long hours on computers (programmer) so this is important. TN also has more stable horizontal gamma/tone and generally much lower input Lag. I have no issues with gaming/web/movies. TN is not so good for any serious image editing though (minor image editing is fine).

The primary thing people will notice with TN is the poorer vertical viewing angle, if it weren't for that most people probably couldn't spot the difference.
 

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Sedako: The Acer is a nice glossy panel, but cannot do any aspect ratio scaling whatsoever, so it will do PS3 or Xbox 360 similarly to the Samsung in AV mode OFF, making eveything tall.

ilal2ielli: Thanks. Worked great. The one thing I'm not too savvy with is the whole interweb thing :)

Balance101: Too many, but the Samsung was a purchase to either keep or return based on how it compared with the G2400W, so the 2493HM is going back. If it had been able to handle aspect scaling as well as the BenQ, it might have been the G2400W going back. Also my Westinghouse L2410NM just died, so it is going back to Best Buy on product service plan, since I extended the warranty with Worst Buy. That really sucks, because I really started to love the L2410NM as a console/movie screen, and was likely to sell the FP241VW.

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If you have any questions DO NOT HESITATE to post here and ask questions or make suggestions. I'm always happy to entertain critique, advice, etc...

Could you please provide photos of the BenQ 2400 with a real 1080p movie scene from external HD device over HDMI and DVI? If yes, please specify what movie that is and what format (2.4:1. etc.)
Thank you.

The 245T and 275T handles this correctly (from what I've heard and read in the manual) so why can't the 2439HM?
245T fails as well.
275T has overscan (as shown in prad.de test, although their video test is lazy and incomplete - shame on them!)
 

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TN monitors rank as number 1 for gaming due to low input lag and fast pixel response times.

S-IPS are best for graphics and color sensitive work. TN is worst, *VA is in between. A lot of new TN panels are coming with very poor out-of-box calibration as well, so the G2400W and Samsung are refreshing because of their good accuracy. Some *VA panels come with very good accuracy as well, but the dark detail gamma shift issue can make photo editing dark photos with them tricky.

S-IPS and TN are both excellent for text sharpness. *VA is worst in this regard.

MVA/PVA is a decent compromise in price vs. performance, but there are some things about VA that bother me. First is the number of screens coming on the market with huge input lag. Second, is the generally average to below average text sharpness. I sit about two feet away and it is difficult for me on *VA when it's easy to read S-IPS or TN. Third is the horizontal viewing angle that gives some "silvery" effects to certain colors.

The one exception for me to all this is the LG L245/246WP due to low input lag, fairly fast pixel response, and good sharpness controls. I loved that display for most things, but alas, the panel is discontinued, and the monitor is discontinued too. It also had great anti glare that worked wonders without making it grainy.

C'est la vie,

Regards,

10e

Great review, how do the 24" TNs compare to a PVA/IPS panel for general day to day use and gaming?
 

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Here you go,

From PS3 (my only external HD device) over HDMI.

Here are two shots. One from the DVI and one from the HDMI.

Transporter 2 @ 2.35:1. I wanted to use a shot with a true panoramic movie that's not just 16:9/1.78:1.

Both the BenQ FP241VW and G2400W did the exact same thing over HDMI and DVI.

I took the liberty of measuring it for you and it's bang on :) 2.35 to 1. Other movies at 1.78 to 1 worked as well, as expected.

Enjoy:

HDMI
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DVI - taken at a different aperture to eliminate barrel distortion but with flash, and a nicer part of the movie :)

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Could you please provide photos of the BenQ 2400 with a real 1080p movie scene from external HD device over HDMI and DVI? If yes, please specify what movie that is and what format (2.4:1. etc.)
Thank you.


245T fails as well.
275T has overscan (as shown in prad.de test, although their video test is lazy and incomplete - shame on them!)
 

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10e,

First thanks for the review, and the multitude of helpful post I've read by you.
I'd really appreciate your thoughts/opinion.

A broke student starting his Graphic Design major in fall writes.......
On one hand we have Graphic projects, possibly photo projects, hopefully free lance projects.
On the other hand we have an avid video game player(360), movie watcher, web browser.

With the ridiculous price of IPS my options are TN or MVA.
What I'm really waiting for is samsung to release the 22inch MVA they "promised us" in the electronics show overseas. Even then I'm not sure it would outweigh the extra 2 inches g2400w offers.

SO.... have you had experience with an MVA? If so, is the accuracy of color that much better then this G2400W TN?
So much that It's worth paying the same amount, possibly more for a panel 2 inches smaller?

FYI I do have a CRT that I will likely keep.
Within 2 years I will be upgrading to an IPS.

Peace and Thanx
 

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It's hard to say. While TN viewing angles can be an issue for color-sensitive work, I would rate the G2400W very good in regards to color accuracy.

It is much better than my BenQ FP241VW A-MVA-based panel. In fact, I'm pretty disappointed with the FP241VW in this aspect. It washes out colors that the G2400W shows me and seems to have less contrast with certain photos. This is something I only noticed this weekend when in clone mode (ie. same image on both screens).

Other well-calibrated screens (like my Dell 2005FPW S-IPS panel) are much closer to the G2400W.

I can't say I 100% recommend the G2400W for color sensitive work, or any other TN panel, and the only other 1920x1200 22" out there is the Lenovo L220X, but I know it won't properly size an Xbox 360 over DVI or VGA. I'm pretty sure it will stretch it vertically.

There are some other decent 24" MVA screens, but some of them suffer from excessive input lag (Dell 2408WFP, Samsung 245T) and their wide gamut might make them sub-par for color work unless you can also afford a color calibrator like a Gretag or Monaco.

But since you have a CRT, I would keep this for the color sensitive work, and the G2400W would make a good buddy to it.

Regards,

10e

10e,

First thanks for the review, and the multitude of helpful post I've read by you.
I'd really appreciate your thoughts/opinion.

A broke student starting his Graphic Design major in fall writes.......
On one hand we have Graphic projects, possibly photo projects, hopefully free lance projects.
On the other hand we have an avid video game player(360), movie watcher, web browser.

With the ridiculous price of IPS my options are TN or MVA.
What I'm really waiting for is samsung to release the 22inch MVA they "promised us" in the electronics show overseas. Even then I'm not sure it would outweigh the extra 2 inches g2400w offers.

SO.... have you had experience with an MVA? If so, is the accuracy of color that much better then this G2400W TN?
So much that It's worth paying the same amount, possibly more for a panel 2 inches smaller?

FYI I do have a CRT that I will likely keep.
Within 2 years I will be upgrading to an IPS.

Peace and Thanx
 

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10e, what mount are you using for the BenQ in that first pic? Could you make a couple general comments about the stands of each? Did the non-height-adjustableness of the BenQ make you buy the mount for it?
 

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I am using the Ergotron LX desk mount. I bought it from Best Buy to put on my Westinghouse L2410NM, but since that monitor has to go back for fixing, I thought I would put it on the BenQ.

I ended up putting the BenQ on it for the height-adjustability, as well as to get back some desk real estate. Since the BenQ is so light, it works very well on this stand. My belief is that all TN monitors should come with a height-adjust stand like the very good stand of the Samsung 2493HM, but not all vendors provide this.

There is also an Ergotron stand that emulates the Samsung height adjustable stand for around $40.00 that works well too, but is unavailable via retail here in Canada so I opted for this one...

Regards,

10e
 

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Brilliant review, thanks alot :)

These two monitors were both on my shortlist for possible purchases however the samsung is now completely out of the question due to the lack of proper 1:1 pixel mapping. I have a few questions:

I am likely to buy a PS3 eventually so my choice of monitor must accomodate this. However, since the BenQ doesn't have an audio in I won't be able to feed my PC's audio and the PS3's HDMI audio into the monitor and then out of the audio out to my speakers. How have you got around this?

If there's no clean way of doing this without having to swap cables around when switching between PC and PS3 and without having a cable sticking out of the side audio out constantly then I'll probably wait for the V2400W. It seems to be the same monitor as the G2400W but in a better looking casing and the product page suggests that it may have an audio in.

Does the G2400W support 1440x900 with aspect scaling? My PC isn't fast enough to play games at 1920x1200 and I don't plan to upgrade until nehalem is released. You mentioned using scaling in the nVidia control panel, how do I do this?

And last question, does it buzz at all at any brightness setting?
 

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The display will do pretty much whatever you want it to. I set it in the NV control panel advanced mode under Display > Change Flat Panel Scaling and there are four options. Two to scale via video card, one to scale via monitor, and a last one of "do not scale". If you are currently using a CRT you probably won't see these settings. If you choose "allow display to scale" the monitor will do it no problem. I'd stick with video card scaling.

I use a surround sound receiver, but the headphone jack works fine with HDMI audio in, it just won't work with a PC. Honestly if you can find a set of speakers with more than one input, I'd get something like that.

The V2400W from all specs I've seen looks the same, but it might cost more. Looks nice though.

The Samsung has speakers, but I'm sure they are horrid like most monitor based speakers.

Regards,

10e


Brilliant review, thanks alot :)

These two monitors were both on my shortlist for possible purchases however the samsung is now completely out of the question due to the lack of proper 1:1 pixel mapping. I have a few questions:

I am likely to buy a PS3 eventually so my choice of monitor must accomodate this. However, since the BenQ doesn't have an audio in I won't be able to feed my PC's audio and the PS3's HDMI audio into the monitor and then out of the audio out to my speakers. How have you got around this?

If there's no clean way of doing this without having to swap cables around when switching between PC and PS3 and without having a cable sticking out of the side audio out constantly then I'll probably wait for the V2400W. It seems to be the same monitor as the G2400W but in a better looking casing and the product page suggests that it may have an audio in.

Does the G2400W support 1440x900 with aspect scaling? My PC isn't fast enough to play games at 1920x1200 and I don't plan to upgrade until nehalem is released. You mentioned using scaling in the nVidia control panel, how do I do this?

And last question, does it buzz at all at any brightness setting?
 

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Brilliant review, thanks alot :)

I am likely to buy a PS3 eventually so my choice of monitor must accomodate this. However, since the BenQ doesn't have an audio in I won't be able to feed my PC's audio and the PS3's HDMI audio into the monitor and then out of the audio out to my speakers. How have you got around this?

If there's no clean way of doing this without having to swap cables around when switching between PC and PS3 and without having a cable sticking out of the side audio out constantly then I'll probably wait for the V2400W. It seems to be the same monitor as the G2400W but in a better looking casing and the product page suggests that it may have an audio in.

The PS3 has an optical port, so if your PC speakers have optical in, you can use that solution. Also, if you have a sound card with an optical in, you can run an optical cable from the PS3 to your sound card and out through your PC speakers. I have a Turtle Beach Montego DDL with has both optical in and out, which is how I plan on getting sound with this monitor.
 

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Thanks for the reply 10e. My speakers are quite expensive so I don't want to replace them, I can't find that setting in the nVidia control panel but I think it may be detecting my old 17" TFT as a CRT since there's some CRT options there. Also, you missed a question, probably because i asked too many :p Does it buzz at all at any brightness level?

@Sedako: I've had a look at what inputs my x-fi xtreme audio has on the creative website, it lists these:

FlexiJack: 3-in-1 function (Digital I/O1 / Line In / Microphone) via 3.50mm mini jack
Line level out (Front / Rear / Side / Center / Subwoofer): 3.50mm mini jacks
AUX_IN line-level analog input: 4-pin Molex connector on card

Are any of those an optical in or can they be converted to one somehow?
 

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Looks like you're out of luck with that solution Mysterlee, none of those are optical ports. If you're in the market for a new sound card, you can find various models with both optical in and out for around $50.
 

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Sorry,

I forgot to answer.

The BenQ G2400W is completely silent. I didn't detect any high pitched squeal, buzzing, or hum, even putting my ear to the vents.

Regards,

10e

Thanks for the reply 10e. My speakers are quite expensive so I don't want to replace them, I can't find that setting in the nVidia control panel but I think it may be detecting my old 17" TFT as a CRT since there's some CRT options there. Also, you missed a question, probably because i asked too many :p Does it buzz at all at any brightness level?

@Sedako: I've had a look at what inputs my x-fi xtreme audio has on the creative website, it lists these:

FlexiJack: 3-in-1 function (Digital I/O1 / Line In / Microphone) via 3.50mm mini jack
Line level out (Front / Rear / Side / Center / Subwoofer): 3.50mm mini jacks
AUX_IN line-level analog input: 4-pin Molex connector on card

Are any of those an optical in or can they be converted to one somehow?
 

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Thanks for your help :)

I've emailed BenQ to clarify whether or not the V2400W has an audio in and I've also emailed creative to ask about connecting the PS3's optical to my X-Fi. So my final descision of G2400W vs V2400W will likely depend on what response I get from them.

I'll repost my question about the PS3 here to make it more visible incase anyone can help, I'm trying to connect a PS3's optical audio output to my X-Fi xtreme music:

I've had a look at what inputs my x-fi xtreme audio has on the creative website, it lists these:

FlexiJack: 3-in-1 function (Digital I/O1 / Line In / Microphone) via 3.50mm mini jack
Line level out (Front / Rear / Side / Center / Subwoofer): 3.50mm mini jacks
AUX_IN line-level analog input: 4-pin Molex connector on card

Are any of those an optical in or can they be converted to one somehow?
 

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Doesn't seem like any of them are optical ports.

Maybe your motherboard has an optical SPDIF in?

Regards,

10e

Thanks for your help :)

I've emailed BenQ to clarify whether or not the V2400W has an audio in and I've also emailed creative to ask about connecting the PS3's optical to my X-Fi. So my final descision of G2400W vs V2400W will likely depend on what response I get from them.

I'll repost my question about the PS3 here to make it more visible incase anyone can help, I'm trying to connect a PS3's optical audio output to my X-Fi xtreme music:

I've had a look at what inputs my x-fi xtreme audio has on the creative website, it lists these:

FlexiJack: 3-in-1 function (Digital I/O1 / Line In / Microphone) via 3.50mm mini jack
Line level out (Front / Rear / Side / Center / Subwoofer): 3.50mm mini jacks
AUX_IN line-level analog input: 4-pin Molex connector on card

Are any of those an optical in or can they be converted to one somehow?
 

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i've had the benq g2400w for nearly 2 weeks now and it is excellent. thanks for recommending it 10e
 

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10e, i'm about to buy 2 g2400W monitors, but i've been reading on ncix and other places some stuff about ghosting and motion blur. You have said that there is no ghosting, but is motion blur. I play mostly FPS games so i'm wondering how much of a negative effect this will have?

Also I wanted to know if the samsung 245bw/2493HM had better/worse/same motion blur as the G2400W.

Thanks! Great review!
 

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To me ALL LCDs suffer from some form of motion blur.

There was some guy on NCIX saying that there was ghosting. I personally think he was taking recreational medicine which caused his eyesight to blur.

I've seen 2ms monitors with more blur/ghosting than the G2400W or Samsung. They were pretty much the same. I usually test it in Gears of War at full resolution and both looked better in regards to blur than my BenQ FP241VW, which is decent.

If you are coming from CRT, you will notice it as a by-product of switching to LCD, but the BenQ and Samsung are both very good in this regard, probably as good as any of the 2ms 22" monitors.

10e

10e, i'm about to buy 2 g2400W monitors, but i've been reading on ncix and other places some stuff about ghosting and motion blur. You have said that there is no ghosting, but is motion blur. I play mostly FPS games so i'm wondering how much of a negative effect this will have?

Also I wanted to know if the samsung 245bw/2493HM had better/worse/same motion blur as the G2400W.

Thanks! Great review!
 

10e

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Everyone is complaining about the FHD2400 and backlight bleeding.

It looks nice, but I'd spend a bit more and opt for the HP W2408H if you can swing it, unless you need the extra ports and glossy screen.

10e

what about the gateway fhd2400? I'm deciding between the BENQ and the gateway.
 

10e

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Always welcome,

I know you went from the 275T to the DS-263N and now this, so I'm glad you found something you like after lugging them around.

Regards,

10e


i've had the benq g2400w for nearly 2 weeks now and it is excellent. thanks for recommending it 10e
 

Patrick80

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Hi!

After surfing the web for several hours, this is actually the best review I've read so far! So, thanks 10e, great review!

However, I was wondering if it was possible to get the Samsung 2493HM to display the PS3 1080p image correctly by just setting the option "image size" under the category "settings" to "normal" instead of "wide"?
Could you may be send me some pictures of the PS3 kooked up to the 2493HM with "image size" set to "normal" and "av mode" set "on"? And maybe another picture with "image size" set to "wide" and "av mode" set "on"? That would be great!

Thanks!
 

10e

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Unfortunately the 2493HM has been returned as of Friday.

Either setting works incorrectly. Setting it to normal/4:3 will not work on PS3 at 1080p, because that setting becomes inactive when wide content is detected/displayed.

Basically it does not allow any changes to "image size" at that time, which is why I published those photos, as they were all I could get from it at 1080p. 720p worked identically as well. In fact, going through the OSD and selecting "image size" when 1080p content is displayed, gives a message of "not available" which means the control is not active.

Hope that helps,

10e

Hi!

After surfing the web for several hours, this is actually the best review I've read so far! So, thanks 10e, great review!

However, I was wondering if it was possible to get the Samsung 2493HM to display the PS3 1080p image correctly by just setting the option "image size" under the category "settings" to "normal" instead of "wide"?
Could you may be send me some pictures of the PS3 kooked up to the 2493HM with "image size" set to "normal" and "av mode" set "on"? And maybe another picture with "image size" set to "wide" and "av mode" set "on"? That would be great!

Thanks!
 

burnsco

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The BenQ G2400W is an amazing monitor. I came from a $600 21" crt that was meant for graphics work. I used to run cs:source at 120hz refresh rate. I do not have any complaints about using this monitor and I mainly play fps. I guaruntee you will be satisified as I am one of the most picky guys when it comes to monitors.

to sum it up, BUY THIS MONITOR!
 

skippnr

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The BenQ G2400W is an amazing monitor. I came from a $600 21" crt that was meant for graphics work. I used to run cs:source at 120hz refresh rate. I do not have any complaints about using this monitor and I mainly play fps. I guaruntee you will be satisified as I am one of the most picky guys when it comes to monitors.

to sum it up, BUY THIS MONITOR!

That supplies some comfort. I'm waiting for mine to get here as I post.
 

Ceros

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Any idea how the BenQ 2400W compares to the NEC LCD2470WVX?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824002378

That seems like a lot for a TN panel, especially when the DS-263N is (relatively) not much more money for a bigger and better screen. My only concerns there are...

- If it's the same as the Planar model, did Planar sell them models that didn't meet their standards?
- Will I notice ghosting? I can't say I notice any on my Samsung 206BW during gaming, which is a TN panel and advertised as having 2ms GTG. I do notice a very small amount when I move my mouse around on a contrasting background, but I'm very discriminating and it's the type of thing most people wouldn't notice.
 

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Nice review, thanks. I'm looking at the Benq G2400W but the Trusted Review website put me off. It said the monitor had a large amount of backlight bleeding (my pet hate) , but you say the opposite. Confused
 
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