Ryzen 5 1500x to Ryzen 7 ??00X

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  1. the.ronin

    the.ronin Limp Gawd

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    Looking to upgrade my Ryzen 5 1500x OC'ed to 3.8 to the 7 series either the 1700, 1800x, or 2700x. Would I see enough of an improvement for my uses described below just going to 1700 or would I really need to go to 2700x? Or stick with the 1500x?

    I do a lot of gaming across genres from MMOs like Ark to TBS like Battletech. I do an equal amount of work on Adobe Illustrator working in print resolution. I do multitask often among Adobe products including Illustrator, Photoshop and Fireworks. I do some HD (not 4K) video editing on Premiere Pro and once in a blue moon on After Effects. I also find myself needing to handle large Excel data sets (by Excel standards) performing CPU intensive functions and macros.

    Current specs:

    AMD Ryzen 5 1500x (OC 3.8)
    Gigabyte GTX 1070
    G.Skill 2400 DDR4 8GB x4
    Asus Prime B350-Plus (AM4)
    Corsair H60
     
  2. Nobu

    Nobu 2[H]4U

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    I wouldn't go from a gen 1 ryzen to another gen 1 unless you could sell it and recoup most of the cost. You'll get better minimum frame times in some games, and might OC a little better, but not enough to justify the cost imo. Considering the 2600 is about the same price as the 1700 on amazon right now, that would be the sweet spot. 2700 would be overkill in my opinion, but if you really want +8c/16t I'd wait for the 3xxx series to drop or the next good sale on the 1700 or 2700x.
     
  3. the.ronin

    the.ronin Limp Gawd

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    Thanks Nobu. Ryzen 7 is still concerned gen 1?
     
  4. mda

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    Gen1 Ryzens are model numbers that start with '1'
    Gen2 Ryzens are model numbers that start with '2'

    Gen1:
    1500
    1600
    1600X
    1700
    1700X
    1800X

    Gen2:
    2200g
    2400g
    2600
    2600X
    2700
    2700X
     
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  5. the.ronin

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    Right, I guess I'm not understanding how going from a Ryzen 5 1500x to a Ryzen 7 2700x is going from gen1 to gen1 according to this but maybe I just misread.

    Just trying to get a sense if the jump is worth it at current prices for 2700x (Microcenter) given what I use it for that I described above.
     
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    mda [H]ard|Gawd

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    Sorry, didn't read your thread the first time and only answered your last question..

    Do you max out your CPUs (see task manager) for your existing 1500X? Or are some CPUs maxed and the others are just idling?

    If the latter, you probably will see very minimal gains with upgrading from a 1500X to a 1600X/1700/1800/2600/2600X/2700X

    If your CPUs are maxed out and can use more than 8 threads (I'm not familiar with the CPU utilization of the software you use), then a higher core count CPU will help you.

    For gaming, you should see an increase (especially with a 2600/2600X/2700/2700X due to some IPC gains and higher clock speeds on gen2 ryzen and not so much the added core count) but not significant enough to warrant an upgrade.
     
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    2700 is gen 2, I was saying I wouldn't go from 1500x to 1700x, unless you could offset the cost completely and really needed 8c/16t. Sorry, I wasn't really clear on that.
     
  8. the.ronin

    the.ronin Limp Gawd

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    Cool thanks guys. Yea I'm not maxing out CPU usage consistently. I'll top it out for sure now and then for example when doing a particularly complex image trace from raster to vector path in Illustrator. Sometimes it just hangs totally. It's those instances I'd like to address. But for the current price of a 2700x, I think I'd also want noticeable improvement in speed even when not doing complex stuff. I'll hold off.
     
  9. mda

    mda [H]ard|Gawd

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    Supposedly the Ryzen 3rd gen will see big gains for you. [coming mid this year]

    More cores, higher IPC, higher clockspeeds at roughly the same prices.

    I'd wait for that.
     
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    wait for 3rd gen Ryzen.
     
  11. the.ronin

    the.ronin Limp Gawd

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    Yup will do thanks again everyone.
     
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    I'd dump that slow ram and get a 3200 kit of Samsung B die (or even a Hynix 3200 C16 kit)...That will give you a pretty nice boost now (you can resell your current ram to offset a nice chunk) and then be set for Zen 2 in the summer. 2400 is really way too slow since the Infinity Fabric in Zen is tied to memory speed. I would want at least 2800, but even going from 2800 to 3200~3600 gives a nice boost (keep in mind your current cpu will most likely not be able to run above 3200 but the Zen 2 cpu will. Ryzen 1 gen's IMC was a weak link.
     
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    Definitely wait for the new Ryzen chips due out in a few months.
     
  14. SvenBent

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    whenver a question like this pops up i like to inform that you can check out this very easy in 5 mins per game

    use process explore fraom microsoft and see how many cpu heavy threads your softwar have

    if its less than you curent number of cores then you get not benefits from more parralletl ressoruces
    if it has more you woulld gain benfits from more parrall ressources.
     
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    Oh I wanna check this out tonight. thanks for the info
     
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